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Badgeman
#21
BobRingler Wrote:
Quote:Seems you are trying to turn Black Dog Man into Badge Man. Cui bono?
I am not mixing up blackdog man and badgeman. You can see both blackdog man and badgeman in this photo. (Blackdog man is not a man btw, black dog man is a woman with a baby)

[Image: betzner_rifle_circled.jpg]

Boy do you have an overactive imagination.
What do you think you see in that red circle?
I could just as easily claim that it shows Bigfoot.
There is nothing there. No person.
First time I've heard anyone claim that Black Dog Man is a woman with a baby.
Before you do any more "research" you need to have your eyes and probably head examined.
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#22
You are right that one of us needs to have his eyes examined but I dont think it is me.

Do you see a mother and baby nose to nose in this photo? I'll tell you where this photo comes from after.
[Image: baby_on_retaining_wall2_black.jpg]

And maybe this technique will help you see the badgeman clearer.
He is wearing a white shirt underneath his "uniform"
[Image: betzner_rifle_black.jpg]

Regarding the HSCA map I used it does say revised march 6 1981. I also do not trust Dale Myers. He does not submit his work to evaluation. He has the only site on the internet that I have ever visited that does not allow you to download any images. It is locked up tighter than a drum!
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#23
Jack,

Would you please circle the area in a moorman photo where you saw badgeman?

Thanks,

Bob
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#24
You dont know what part of the Moorman picture that Badgeman is in Bob?

You must be joking
"Pictures dont lie-unless they are made to" Harold Weisberg 1966
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#25
Dean, please dont start what you did at the other forum over here. Please dont make comments that ridicule because I believe its against the forum rules.

I am asking Jack to circle the part of the moorman photo where he puts badgeman, preferably a blowup version of moorman that shows some context, more context than we usually see when we are shown the picture of badgeman.
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#26
BobRingler Wrote:Dean, please dont start what you did at the other forum over here. Please dont make comments that ridicule because I believe its against the forum rules.

I am asking Jack to circle the part of the moorman photo where he puts badgeman, preferably a blowup version of moorman that shows some context, more context than we usually see when we are shown the picture of badgeman.


I attached this morning an enlargement of the badgeman group.
I do not have time now to do any further graphics. If you cannot
see badgeman clearly in the center of the image, you have a
perception problem.

Jack
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#27
Jack,

Where is the badgeman group? I only see the nigel pictures?

Where is the picture you are refering to?

I only see one picture that you have attached to your posts and that is the nigel pictures.

I guess I am going to have to do it.
Bob
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#28
I am trying to figure out where jack white sees badgeman in the broader context of the moorman photo. What we know is that he sees badgeman standing on a car bumper and while we dont know where in the moorman picture he sees this we do have a re-enactment picture he took which gives us an idea of where to look in moorman.

Re-enactment photo from jack white


[Image: badgemansizelocation.jpg]

On the other had we have this picture that is referred to as the badgeman group but from that picture we cannot tell where badgeman is in the broader moorman context. You cannot use this photo to answer the question is badgeman standing on a car bumper.
[Image: badgeman_group.jpg]

And finally, if we try to resolve where badgeman is within the fuller context of the moorman photo , and make sure the geometry matches with the nigel re-enactment picture, we end up having to look for badgeman in the white circle ...

[Image: badgeman_jackx.jpg]


On the other hand if jack says that the fellow under the red line in the following photo is badgeman then it is obvious that he is not standing on a car bumper.
[Image: badgeman_jack.jpg]

So, I hope jack will point out where badgeman is within the broader context of the mooman photo. It is the only way to substantiate his belief that badgeman was standing on a car bumper.

I am trying to reconcile the nigel re-enactement photos to the moorman photo.
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#29
BobRingler Wrote:Dean, please dont start what you did at the other forum over here. Please dont make comments that ridicule because I believe its against the forum rules.

I am asking Jack to circle the part of the moorman photo where he puts badgeman, preferably a blowup version of moorman that shows some context, more context than we usually see when we are shown the picture of badgeman.

Bob if you dont know where Badgeman is at in Moorman than I am just amazed (Im positive you know where it is you are just trying to mess with Jack, because you keep saying "we dont know" well EVERY member of this forum besides you know exactly what part of Moorman Badgeman is in)

I am not trying to ridicule you

Im simply sitting her my my jaw on the ground at your lack of knowledge about a subject that you seem very interested in
"Pictures dont lie-unless they are made to" Harold Weisberg 1966
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#30
You dont seem to know a whole lot about it dean. Post a picture show me where I am wrong, dont just ridicule me.

I dont think anyone knows where badgeman is iin the moorman photo. I think that people have a perception of where badgeman is based on the well known , out of context, picture of the badgeman group. But once you try to reconcile the nigel re-enactment photos with the actual moorman picture you cant do it.

You are free to take my moorman photo and indicate where badgeman is supposed to be. I would like to know where you place him.

What is anoying about this whole thing is that I am not trying to prove that jacks badgeman does not exist. I am just trying to understand where jack thinks that badgeman is.

I am trying to reconcile the nigel re-enactment photos with the moorman photo.
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