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The JFK Plot: A Structural Model
#71
Fundamentally, only the Sponsors know the real rationale for an event.

Everyone else is being played and, by definition, cannot be a Sponsor.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

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The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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CD Thanks for the film idea. I have just put The Package in my netflix queque at position 1 so will have it for next weekend. I have never seen it.

Dawn
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#73
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Fundamentally, only the Sponsors know the real rationale for an event.

Everyone else is being played and, by definition, cannot be a Sponsor.

Precisely,

In the case of the JFK assassination (although not exclusively), individuals driven by nationalism/tribalism/patriotism, xenophobia, religious/spiritual affiliations, and/or economic ideological identifications belong at the Facilitator level.

The Sponsors were and remain above it all.
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#74
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Fundamentally, only the Sponsors know the real rationale for an event.

Everyone else is being played and, by definition, cannot be a Sponsor.

Then, by definition, the Sponsor can only be what i call the Money Trust.
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#75
Please defend the element of exclusivity in your Sponsor identification.

Thanks.
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#76
Money trust is a general term. They are probably the same people who tried to assassinate FDR in 1933.
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Charles Drago Wrote:
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Fundamentally, only the Sponsors know the real rationale for an event.

Everyone else is being played and, by definition, cannot be a Sponsor.

Precisely,

In the case of the JFK assassination (although not exclusively), individuals driven by nationalism/tribalism/patriotism, xenophobia, religious/spiritual affiliations, and/or economic ideological identifications belong at the Facilitator level.

The Sponsors were and remain above it all.

FWIW...

Prouty: There is no shortage of experienced writers who, for various reasons, allude repeatedly to--I like Churchill's term best--a "High Cabal." This is attributed to Churchill by Lord Denning in his very good book, A Family Affair. Lord Denning corresponds to our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the senior law officer in the United Kingdom. In the book he recounts a story about World War II and the heavy bombardment in England and in Europe. Denning states that his brother, who was an officer with British Naval Intelligence, was working on duty late at night in an underground subterranean area that was between Ten Downing Street and an underground shelter where Churchill used to stay during bombing attacks. The Navy, being as alert as ever, stocked this area where Commander Denning was working, with a few high-quality bottles of brandy.


When, on many occasions, Churchill would walk through their office, the Commander would invite the Prime Minister to sit down and have a brandy. One particular night, after there had been a heavy bombardment on London, and they knew that Rotterdam was under attack, Churchill was sitting there sipping his brandy and he said, almost as if speaking to himself, "You know, an all-out battle on land, and heavy battles in the sea, and this total bombardment over Rotterdam and over London, the High Cabal is operating here". And he referred to this being the wishes of the High Cabal. Now unfortunately, Lord Denning doesn't go any further with the reminiscences of his brother. But maybe they didn't go any further. Maybe Churchill just said that much.


I was at the Cairo Conference, where Churchill was. I was in his group; I was close enough to directly witness some of what was going on. I flew the British staff officers back and forth from where some of them stayed in Palestine during the Cairo Conference and talked with them a lot about the progress of the conference. Later I was at the Teheran Conference, where Churchill was. I lived across the street from Churchill when he was convalescing. (After these conferences he had a case of pneumonia in Marrakesh, Morocco.) Now I can't say that Churchill was any intimate of mine, but I was close enough to observe people that worked with him, and the military people who worked for him. I talked with them a lot. And we had the feeling that Churchill, certainly, is a senior person (as was Roosevelt, as was Stalin) in the world, but that there seems to be a level that maybe he listens to. Maybe this is what Denning was referring to -- because Churchill describes a High Cabal.


He's not the only one. Buckminster Fuller, a rare individual, has spent more time, at the invitation of Congress, before Congressional hearings than any other individual, with the probable exception of Admiral Rickover, advising Congress on different issues relating to the government. But interestingly enough, he has spent more time in the Kremlin as an advisor to the Soviets than he has in our own Congress. He worked with President Kubitschek in setting up the new Brazil. A rare individual. A man who knows the world and knows the leaders of the world. He writes about a "power elite," and that the apparent leaders, as we see them throughout the world, are certainly national leaders, but they're not the top echelon, the High Cabal.


In history you will find that the Chinese, as far back as 2,000 years ago, speak of a High Cabal that they call the "Gentry" -- and that the Chinese seem to have accepted that as a fact of life. Even though they had their emperors and their monarchs and leaders, they realized there's an echelon above that which directs some of the events that other people know nothing about. It's Fuller who hits the nail on the head. He says that the secret of the High Cabal is -- of course, it's control of power, but it is also the understanding that their most valuable asset is anonymity: that nobody can identify them. In that sense, you begin to talk, you begin to think: maybe they're just like angels or like ghosts, people say they're there, but, are they really?


I don't think it's that. In fact, I think that perhaps what people think of in terms of ghosts or angels, may be the reality that there is an echelon within our world, a small structure, that does really determine how things go. And I wouldn't argue the point. Because in my own experience in more than 80 countries -- and I have talked directly to presidents of countries and people on their level -- I have this feeling that they're taking their instructions from some other place. Now that may be personal, but I notice it in the writings of others as well.
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monk


"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
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#78
It's worth a great deal, I think.
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#79
Charles Drago Wrote:It's worth a great deal, I think.

Thanks Charles. I do too.
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monk


"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
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Greg Burnham Wrote:
Charles Drago Wrote:It's worth a great deal, I think.

Thanks Charles. I do too.

One more side note. I once asked Fletch if there was anybody that he knew who was close to the "High Cabal" -- IOW: Since, by definition,
the actual High Cabal is anonymous (un-knowable), it is also therefore, unspeakable, i.e., unnamable. So he obviously can't know who they
are. However, is there anyone that seems to be close to them due to the manner in which such an individual influences/persuades those who
appear to wield the power (government leaders, etc.), yet are never themselves accountable, never themselves apparent beneficiaries of their
influence, yet are always in the middle of the deepest levels of action.

He said, "Yes. Averell Harriman was close to them." He told me this about 10 years after Harriman's death (1986). I asked if there was anyone
who is still alive that fits the bill? He said, "Yes. Watch former Secretary of Education William Bennett. If gambling doesn't kill his chances, he
could rise to the top."

We shall see.
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monk


"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
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