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The Sponsor/Facilitator/Mechanic Model Applied to 9/11
#61
When I purchased the used New Process transfer case and retrofitted it into my '57 Chevy, it had dropped a roll pin from a shifting fork so that the high-low failed to function. Replacement of the pin involved a long punch, a ball peen hammer, a second set of hands, all functioning through an access plate on the bench.

Tap tap. Bob's your uncle.

Jeffrey, you say:

Correct me if I am wrong but the model assumes that there was a CD...

By "the model" I presume you mean a sponsor/facilitator/mechanic model such as Charles sets out in the first post.

By "CD" I presume you mean a controlled demolition.

In my view, this is not at all assumed by any deep poltical model described by that first post and discussed in subsequent posts.

I know you've narrated a horror story of rash speculation, but that isn't here.

Set these tools on opposite sides of the table, the engineering diagnostics, and the investigation of the various roles.

Compare this discussion of a deep political model to the challenge of Gerard Colby and Charlotte Dennett, They Will Be Done: The Conquest of the Amazon: Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil.

In South America great resources beckoned but regimes had to be changed, indian tribes had to be pacified, Green Berets, CIA and diplomatic and financial leverage were used.

A role was played by professed innocent bible translators, namely intelligence, some humint, some aviation logistical assistance.

The whole does not leap off the page as an op, but the region was laid seige and laid waste--and it takes 900 pages to tell but a part of the skeletal outline.

The application of sponsor/facilitator/mechanic modeling to 911 seeks to identify if only by type the various roles.

The engineering modeling of the collapse is not any more important than the precise location and caliber of the guns of Dealey Arcade.

I would bet the ranch the thing itself is a Russian doll, a Faberge egg, a Rubik cube or any delicious metaphor one might name.

It is not the application of particle beam Flash Gordonry nor videographic projection of aircraft on building faces.

From One World Trade Center to the top of the heroin heap is but one piece of paper from one filing cabinet reduced to dusty rubble from sunrise to sunset on a day eleven years ago.

Even now the Arab Spring takes its place on this mangled mandala.

Everyone involved thinks he's the big cheesehead.

And Hitler never blamed the Bank of England and the clubs and the wonks.

How many divisions did Monatagu Norman have.

John O'Neill died for the sins of this op.

(Put a sock in it, John--the show must go on.)

Kathleen Rowley was not heeded--and Mueller kicked her again under the table--and DBA OBAMA reupped Bob Mueller for an additional two years.

Oh no, I don't for a minute insist on a "controlled demolition"--I insist on the intent that the show must go on.

I don't for a moment pretend to know the sponsor, but that is all by way of the sponsor's business model.

The suckers never get to look inside--not for free--not and walk away.

It's business. It's not personal.
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#62
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:OK...

Then what, pray tell, were the mechanics up to?

As a Deep Political Science freshman student, you now are asked to define "Mechanics" in terms of the Evica-Drago JFK conspiracy model.
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#63
Not going to play this game. Your model...answer the question please. Drop the condescending tone while you are at it.
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#64
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:Not going to play this game. Your model...answer the question please. Drop the condescending tone while you are at it.

Now, now. You're the one who ostensibly studied the model and then utilized it to make an argument within the context of deep politics study.

I'm the co-creator of the model you chose to use. Since you didn't see fit to ask me anything about the model before you utilized it, we have every right to expect you to understand it.

So I ask you again: Please define "Mechanics" as you understand how the term is used within the Evica-Drago conspiracy model.

Then defend your positions that the model "assumes" controlled demolition and that controlled demolition is the Mechanics' "m.o."

You answer will count as 33% of your final grade.

Take all the time you need.
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#65
Same Shit Different Day

That's what it is with JO. Every. Single. Time. Period.

You will never be able to adequately explain your position. It will be your fault. Why should he be expected to do the work of understanding what can and has been understood by many others? After all, he has the right to his positions. After all, he chooses to remain a skeptic, as opposed to you, incapable of standing outside ideologically derived position.

For him to understand deep politics would be to violate his prime directive.

Engaging him will always be a waste of time.

Charles, you were right. Orling is an asshole; or he is on somebody's payroll.

I can't find that great thread on how to spot a disinfo, but I would guess he rings a log of bells.

Finally, when it comes to controlled demolition, the thing that really chaps my hide is that of all the smart guys running around with millions of dollars at their disposal, Orling is able to figure out the REAL reasons for the collapse of WTCs 1,2, and 7. Why couldn't NIST do it as easily as Orling? They wouldn't have had to put out their crappy reports.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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#66
Lauren,

The "Gentleperons' Guide" you seek, as provided by the estimable Greg Burnham, is here:

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...orum-Spies

If the cloak fits, Jeffrey ...
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#67
9-11 can conform to the Deep Politics model without any controlled demolition in my opinion. Flying planes into towers and causing their destruction is a form of controlled demolition. What people miss in this is we would have attacked the Middle East whether the Towers collapsed or not.
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#68
Albert Doyle Wrote:9-11 can conform to the Deep Politics model without any controlled demolition in my opinion. Flying planes into towers and causing their destruction is a form of controlled demolition. What people miss in this is we would have attacked the Middle East whether the Towers collapsed or not.

From a deep political point of view, the sponsors intended for the towers to come down on 9/11. Had they just stood there smoldering that day, would have sent the aftermath into an entirely different direction. Assuming there was no plane switching that day, body identification and recovery would have been the first task. The buildings would have been crawling with structural engineers analysing the buildings for safety, repair, and whatever demolition needed. Instead we were informed we had been attacked by 19 Arab fanatics who represent people who hate our freedom. The story still goes from there. I argue we would not be living that story if the buildings had been smoldering broken stubs.

Since the buildings had to fall, the sponsors would have had to be assured that just the act of crashing planes into the buildings would have guaranteed that result. No explosives needed? Fine. Let's roll.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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#69
Charles Drago Wrote:Lauren,

The "Gentleperons' Guide" you seek, as provided by the estimable Greg Burnham, is here:

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...orum-Spies

If the cloak fits, Jeffrey ...

Thanks, Charles.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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#70
On page 68 of The Kennedy Tapes, Tuesday, October 16, 1962, Meeting on the Cuban Missile Crisis, Robert Kennedy caps a discussion involving Taylor, Ball, Alexis Johnson, Bundy (McGeorge), and President Kennedy:

Robert Kennedy: Well, I want to say, can I say that one other thing is whether we should also think of whether there is some other way we can get involved in this, through Guantanamo Bay or something. Or whether there's some ship that. . .you know, sink the Maine again or something.

It is still debated whether FDR knew of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor through decoded message traffic, whether he concocted the attack by baiting the harbor, all towards involving an isolationist public.

Is it arguable the Reichstag was burned by Nazis, blaming Communists, to attain the enabling act affording martial power without the complication of legislation.

Northwoods.

911 as a manufactured casus belli, a pretext, a provocation engineered by this government or by a significant power base sufficiently permeating this government to mount the forces to replace the secular Saddam Hussein with the Islamist structure more desirable to Iran, to Saudi, or to a prescribed change or appearance of change in the business model.

The towers as the most symbolic toggles for the twin wars, the latter for heroin and to waste a decade in the wasteland as did other armies in other eras.

If the very FBI counterterrorism chief installed to prevent such an attack is himself prevented from his duty, the demolition was assured.

If the agent warning of the flight lessons given to some of the nineteen was stonewalled a la Bolden, buried a la Milteer, suppressed a la Chicago's all taken care of, why, it's the mosquito's anesthetic before the blood-sucking begins.

Can Hillary have been ignorant of Muslim impalement of homosexuals that she would send one as an Ambassador only to have him murdered and sodomized in the street. With Huma wired into the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood via her own mother, with such an outpouring of Muslim outreach, such a blunder.

The Spring is trapping the third war.

Will it be to raise the price of oil.

Sheik, rattle, let's roll.
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