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The LBJ-Did-It Operation Continues to Unfold
#41
Ed Jewett Wrote:On the very last page (it's unnumbered, and in the Reading Group Guide section of the Simon and Schuster/Touchstone 2008 edition of JFK and the Unspeakable) (my copy is inscribed and signed by the author), Douglass answers this question:

"Is there anything else you uncovered about the JFK assassination conspiracy that you wish had been included in [the book], or were you able to fit all of your findings in the book?"

He answered:

"I included only what I could back up with solid sources that the reader could check out. Hence all the endnotes. There is far more than this beneath the surface. Yet we know enough, and have known enough for a long time, to see the truth. I believe that what is written here is only a tiny, visible piece of a systemic evil that continues to reach into the depths of our world. But grace also abounds. Peace is possible."

Color emphasis is mine.

Cool that you met him its like everyone has bar meSad
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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#42
After reading Mr. Douglass's statement about "systemic evil", I had a thought, albeit a bit off-topic. Here lately, when I think of "evil", my thoughts seem to snap to the banks...the bailouts, the CEOs of their institutions being hailed as "heroes", and it made me think of something. Would you think that this "systemic evil" could be traced back to the formation of the Federal Reserve in 1913?

Ed Jewett Wrote:On the very last page (it's unnumbered, and in the Reading Group Guide section of the Simon and Schuster/Touchstone 2008 edition of JFK and the Unspeakable) (my copy is inscribed and signed by the author), Douglass answers this question:

"Is there anything else you uncovered about the JFK assassination conspiracy that you wish had been included in [the book], or were you able to fit all of your findings in the book?"

He answered:

"I included only what I could back up with solid sources that the reader could check out. Hence all the endnotes. There is far more than this beneath the surface. Yet we know enough, and have known enough for a long time, to see the truth. I believe that what is written here is only a tiny, visible piece of a systemic evil that continues to reach into the depths of our world. But grace also abounds. Peace is possible."

Color emphasis is mine.
"Logic is all there is, and all there is must be logical."

"Truth is logic, and logic is truth."

"In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely." - Hunter S. Thompson

"A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. A psychotic is a guy who's just found out what's going on." - William S. Burroughs
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#43
James Lewis Wrote:Would you think that this "systemic evil" could be traced back to the formation of the Federal Reserve in 1913?

Only if you're prepared to remove the word "systemic" and ask the question again.

In either case, the answer is "no."
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#44
Hell, Charles...you don't have to prompt me for that...I already knew that. What else would your expect from an organization that was formed on a place named Jekyll Island??

Charles Drago Wrote:
James Lewis Wrote:Would you think that this "systemic evil" could be traced back to the formation of the Federal Reserve in 1913?

Only if you're prepared to remove the word "systemic" and ask the question again.

In either case, the answer is "no."
"Logic is all there is, and all there is must be logical."

"Truth is logic, and logic is truth."

"In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely." - Hunter S. Thompson

"A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. A psychotic is a guy who's just found out what's going on." - William S. Burroughs
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#45
I was at work a few years ago when a co-worker approached me about President Kennedy's murder.

She had overheard me talking with others about the case and wanted to know whodunnit.

We didn't have a lot of time to converse so I told her simply, "bankers."

"Bankers? Why would a banker want to kill JFK?"

When worlds collide...
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#46
James Lewis Wrote:Hell, Charles...you don't have to prompt me for that...I already knew that. What else would your expect from an organization that was formed on a place named Jekyll Island??

Sorry, James. Didn't mean to "heckle" you.


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#47
No problem, Charles Smile

Charles Drago Wrote:
James Lewis Wrote:Hell, Charles...you don't have to prompt me for that...I already knew that. What else would your expect from an organization that was formed on a place named Jekyll Island??

Sorry, James. Didn't mean to "heckle" you.
"Logic is all there is, and all there is must be logical."

"Truth is logic, and logic is truth."

"In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely." - Hunter S. Thompson

"A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. A psychotic is a guy who's just found out what's going on." - William S. Burroughs
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#48
Of course LBJ 'didn't do it'.

LBJ was the ideal vehicle for those who 'did it'. He represented a once in a lifetime historical opportunity. That's why the coverup persists 38 plus years after he died. Those who 'did it' have maintained the coverup because they control the mainstream discourse.

Even to the uninterested observer, a brief glance at LBJ's career reveals who he answered to:

1. Operation Texas in the late 1930's (one of his few honourable acts).

2. Potentially career threatening advocacy of Israel's occupation of the Sinai during the Suez crisis in 1956/57, including a personal rebuke of President Eisenhower's position on the crisis.

3. His 'council of wise men' (Zionist ideologues).

4. Coverup of Israel'sl attack on the USS Liberty in 1967.

5. Overseeing the consolidation of Israel to regional nuclear armed superpower.


Israel killed JFK and Jack Ruby's rabid Zionist loyalies is proof beyond reasonable doubt.

Israel, and only Israel, tangibly benefitted from JFK's death.

America's failure to face this fact has led it into its current disastrous political, social and economic disaster. You can't see it because you are a nation totally enslaved. You've been hypnotised.

I reckon JFK would agree with me.
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#49
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Of course LBJ 'didn't do it'.

LBJ was the ideal vehicle for those who 'did it'. He represented a once in a lifetime historical opportunity. That's why the coverup persists 38 plus years after he died. Those who 'did it' have maintained the coverup because they control the mainstream discourse.

Even to the uninterested observer, a brief glance at LBJ's career reveals who he answered to:

1. Operation Texas in the late 1930's (one of his few honourable acts).

2. Potentially career threatening advocacy of Israel's occupation of the Sinai during the Suez crisis in 1956/57, including a personal rebuke of President Eisenhower's position on the crisis.

3. His 'council of wise men' (Zionist ideologues).

4. Coverup of Israel'sl attack on the USS Liberty in 1967.

5. Overseeing the consolidation of Israel to regional nuclear armed superpower.


Israel killed JFK and Jack Ruby's rabid Zionist loyalies is proof beyond reasonable doubt.

Israel, and only Israel, tangibly benefitted from JFK's death.

America's failure to face this fact has led it into its current disastrous political, social and economic disaster. You can't see it because you are a nation totally enslaved. You've been hypnotised.

I reckon JFK would agree with me.

This is where it really pays to be careful.

I think the whole Israeli-Jews killed Kennedy stuff is extremely borderline.

I personally don't buy it either. Because the evidence IMO just does not bear it out.
Israel were dissapointed in Kennedy disagreeing with their nuclear program hmmmm. Well they had to wait a long time before they got them circa 1967. I also think it's dangerous saying anyone outside the US 'group' or 'religious' body did it. It's as bogus as the Lyndon Johnson gibberish. That's not to say something funky went down with the USS Liberty however. But trying to tie that in with JFK is something of stretch. It also sends one down a very slippery slope. I had a brief discussion with Al Doyle in regards to this and I was to busy too finish off what I was trying to say (my apologies Al). I recall when Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas were interviewed on the 'Democracy Now' show with Amy Goodman.

One of the saddest things I saw was that the duo from Popular Mechanics got off on their high horses accusing Bermas and co of being 'anti-semitic'. Now this just came out of nowhere and I was utterly appalled. I advise anyone to read John Ronson's 'Them: Adventures With Extremists' in which he discusses this problem. The cool thing is that Ronson himself is of Jewish ancestory and found the ADL particularly confused in it's mission. I'm no big fan of Chomsky nowadays either, but I think he's correct that they have lost the plot in regards to any form of criticism being labelled as a racist attack.

But this brings me too my point. I'd be slightly jumpy as well if I'd faced pogroms of the kind the Jewish people have experienced throughout history. Sadly, it appears that conservative Zionist elements have hijacked a lot of the discourse in much the same way Christian elements have hijacked or targetted many debates. These guys represent the views of a minority of Jewish people. A lot of excellent JFK researchers were Jewish and many, many Jewish people are opposed to illegal Israeli occupations in Gaza and recognise the rights of Palestinians. Not to mention that Jewish people living elsewhere in the middle east were also very critical of official Israeli policy.

The big danger is of course the growth of lunatic conservative Christian movements in the US (again not all Christians are lunatics or conservative either) in particularly the Christian Zionist groups. Any form of religious extremism is exceptionally bad for your health and that of others. This whole Israel behind the assassination stuff sadly wreaks of the very bigotry that people in groups like the ADL lap up. As for Ruby, he's something of a false sponsor himself.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992
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#50
The matter does require exquisite precision in pulling apart the tapestry of threads when one entertains the question of "Israeli" involvement. There is Israel, and then there is Zionism, and then there are the hidden forces involved in the creation of Zionism (which created Israel), and then there are the very murky and secretive influences in Europe that go back centuries and came forward through those centuries to exert power and influence in politics, intelligence agencies, and other socio-cultural influences whose intrigues and interests are deeply interlocked and interwoven. It also requires an understanding (which I don't claim to possess at this point) of how pressures, influences, propaganda, payoff and intimidation work to advance an operation. I will return to my reading now.
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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