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Betty Chruscielski Wrote:When Seamus posted the thread "Banishment" for me, I really did not read it all that closely. I read it again today. I noticed he said I had abandoned my theory of the back seat. I HAVE NOT! The shot from the back seat of the lead car was to the president's throat. This pierced the trachea and went into the spinal column. The movement he made is called decorticate posturing. This proved it went into his spinal column. The doctors at Parkland Hospital stated the wound to the throat was an entrance wound. They enlarged the entrance wound for a tracheostomy.
I also concur with Mr. Rigby that the shot to the head was from Mr. Greer.
Someone wrote in their post there were two headshots. I do not understand why they would write this.
There was a shot to the head and there was a shot to the throat.
One of the reasons I mention about the bullet going into the spinal column is because for the bullet to go from the front of the trachea into the spinal column it would have to be a straight shot and not from the any side. Think of the physics. We've seen the autopsy photos. Some say they are faked and I can see their point but no one has disputed where the throat wound was. For the bullet to follow a straight path from the front of the trachea into spinal column it would have to have been a shot from the straight front not from the sides.
Respectfully, I think your lying and you should be banned from the forum. Your playing words again. :loco::loco::loco:
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Betty are you saying that the throat wound came from the lead car and went through that windscreen as well as the limo windscreen? Why this lead car? You say that it has some one looking out the window. So what? Windows get looked out of. It would be entirely logical that some one would be looking out from a lead car towards the limo. That's the whole point in having the lead car, show the ways and keep an eye on things.
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Betty Chruscielski Wrote:I also concur with Mr. Rigby that the shot to the head was from Mr. Greer.
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The throat entry wound couldn't be from the lead car because the entry point through the windshield was off to the right and down from the rear view mirror. If you drew a straight line from this bullet hole in the windshield to the lead car it would go through Jackie not Jack.
The Greer theory is false mainly because it would have happened in front of dozens of people who would have seen it happen right in front of them. (PLEASE don't explain to me why the Greer shot was plausible)
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05-06-2011, 03:32 AM
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Betty are you saying that the throat wound came from the lead car and went through that windscreen as well as the limo windscreen? Why this lead car? You say that it has some one looking out the window. So what? Windows get looked out of. It would be entirely logical that some one would be looking out from a lead car towards the limo. That's the whole point in having the lead car, show the ways and keep an eye on things.
My theory is the shot came from the back window of the lead car. That back window would be a mafia window that's able to be opened to allow the hit to happen. The mafia for years have had the ability to do drive by hits from rear windows of cars.
The significance of having someone looking backwards is that that person would know what was happening in the limo. Jesse Curry said to the WC he saw a commotion in the limo through his rear view mirror but didn't know what was happening until the motorcycle cop James Chainey came and told him. So Jesse Curry lied. Why did he lie? *
Why wouldn't the government allow James Chainey to talk to Doug Weldon?*
The person according to the record who is sitting in that rear seat was Sherriff Decker. Decker did not testify to his ride in the lead car even though everybody else in the lead car did. Why wouldn't he testify or how did he get out of testifying about his ride in the lead car? Since he would have seen everything happening, why wouldn't he testify about it?
The underlined question btw the asteriks is a false premise. Chainey was dead by the time Weldon had time to interview him.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:The throat entry wound couldn't be from the lead car because the entry point through the windshield was off to the right and down from the rear view mirror. If you drew a straight line from this bullet hole in the windshield to the lead car it would go through Jackie not Jack.
The Greer theory is false mainly because it would have happened in front of dozens of people who would have seen it happen right in front of them. (PLEASE don't explain to me why the Greer shot was plausible)
To really understand my point a person needs to listen to Doug Weldon's presentation
This is the site of the video. It is in 16 parts. He's very thorough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czQKoxjcvgc.
I know the doctor stated she put her finger through a bullet hole, but that bullet hole no longer exists according to the testimony given by the autoworker whose testimony is given in Doug's presentation.
When you say to draw a straight line from the lead car through the bullet hole in the windshield you hit Jackie, I' m not sure of a couple of things.
1)Are you referring to Jim Altgen's photo, the one Fetzer says is the bullet hole?
2)Since we are not sure of the position of the lead car when the bullet was fired, how can we draw a straight line?
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Betty Chruscielski Wrote:My theory is the shot came from the back window of the lead car.
Which window? This is unclear. The rear passenger window or the rear windscreen?
Betty Chruscielski Wrote:That back window would be a mafia window that's able to be opened to allow the hit to happen.
It could also be a magic window and magically disappear at the right moment....Perhaps another magic bullet fired from another magic gun too. Perhaps it had a magic sun roof too to shoot from. The possibilities are endless.
Betty Chruscielski Wrote:The mafia for years have had the ability to do drive by hits from rear windows of cars.
Mmmm...yeah, and bust kneecaps and cut off fingers.
Betty Chruscielski Wrote:The significance of having someone looking backwards is that that person would know what was happening in the limo.
It has no significance at all. It doesn't follow at all.
Betty Chruscielski Wrote:Jesse Curry said to the WC he saw a commotion in the limo through his rear view mirror but didn't know what was happening until the motorcycle cop James Chainey came and told him. So Jesse Curry lied. Why did he lie?
Doesn't mean he lied at all. If JC saw a commotion in the rear view mirror doesn't mean he can't also look back out the window for a better view. Not that this is going to solve his curiosity either. Just because he tried to get a better view doesn't mean he got a better view or understood any better what was going on.
Betty Chruscielski Wrote:The person according to the record who is sitting in that rear seat was Sherriff Decker. Decker did not testify to his ride in the lead car even though everybody else in the lead car did. Why wouldn't he testify or how did he get out of testifying about his ride in the lead car? Since he would have seen everything happening, why wouldn't he testify about it?
You'll have to take that up with the WC. They're the ones who chose who testified and who didn't. Lot's of people wanted or expected to testify and they were never called.
Why pick on just Decker as having 'seen everything'? Hundreds of people were in the DP that day and saw what happened with their own eyes and do not have one version of the events and millions have seen the Zapruder film and still people see different things. Some see Greeer shooting...
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Betty Chruscielski Wrote:My theory is the shot came from the back window of the lead car.
Which window? This is unclear. The rear passenger window or the rear windscreen?
Betty Chruscielski Wrote:That back window would be a mafia window that's able to be opened to allow the hit to happen.
It could also be a magic window and magically disappear at the right moment....Perhaps another magic bullet fired from another magic gun too. Perhaps it had a magic sun roof too to shoot from. The possibilities are endless.
Betty Chruscielski Wrote:The mafia for years have had the ability to do drive by hits from rear windows of cars.
Mmmm...yeah, and bust kneecaps and cut off fingers.
Betty Chruscielski Wrote:The significance of having someone looking backwards is that that person would know what was happening in the limo.
It has no significance at all. It doesn't follow at all.
Betty Chruscielski Wrote:Jesse Curry said to the WC he saw a commotion in the limo through his rear view mirror but didn't know what was happening until the motorcycle cop James Chainey came and told him. So Jesse Curry lied. Why did he lie?
Doesn't mean he lied at all. If JC saw a commotion in the rear view mirror doesn't mean he can't also look back out the window for a better view. Not that this is going to solve his curiosity either. Just because he tried to get a better view doesn't mean he got a better view or understood any better what was going on.
Betty Chruscielski Wrote:The person according to the record who is sitting in that rear seat was Sherriff Decker. Decker did not testify to his ride in the lead car even though everybody else in the lead car did. Why wouldn't he testify or how did he get out of testifying about his ride in the lead car? Since he would have seen everything happening, why wouldn't he testify about it?
You'll have to take that up with the WC. They're the ones who chose who testified and who didn't. Lot's of people wanted or expected to testify and they were never called.
Why pick on just Decker as having 'seen everything'? Hundreds of people were in the DP that day and saw what happened with their own eyes and do not have one version of the events and millions have seen the Zapruder film and still people see different things. Some see Greeer shooting...
At about the same time as these BS posts were coming online. Phil Dragoo told me that a person by the name of Nancy O turned up at JFK Lancer asking all manner of questions about Storm Drain shooters. I'm thinking its time Betty kindly 'sodded off'.
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Betty Chruscielski Wrote:2)Since we are not sure of the position of the lead car when the bullet was fired, how can we draw a straight line?
If we assume the throat entry wound happened at around Zapruder frame 223-224 then the line drawn from Kennedy's throat, through the bullet hole in the windshield, and beyond goes well out towards the south knoll and off the roadbed.
No chance on a shot from the lead car by basic geometry.
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I think Betty is barking up the wrong tree. Most don't believe a shot came from Greer or the lead car. But that is no reason to swear at her.
Debate her lack of logic
Just sayin'
And it's "you're" when you mean you are; your refers to one's ownership, like "your opinion". Seemus you're a writer, you should know this, it is third grade grammer. (Sorry, couldn't resist, it's a pet peeve).
Dawn
