Yes Virginia, there was a lead car.

[Dawn Meredith]

I think Betty is barking up the wrong tree. Most don't believe a shot came from Greer or the lead car. But that is no reason to swear at her.
Debate her lack of logic

Just sayin'

And it's "you're" when you mean you are; your refers to one's ownership, like "your opinion". Seemus you're a writer, you should know this, it is third grade grammer. (Sorry, couldn't resist, it's a pet peeve).

Dawn

Opps I mean Seamus. It's an uncommon name.

[Seamus Coogan]

I think Betty is barking up the wrong tree. Most don't believe a shot came from Greer or the lead car. But that is no reason to swear at her.
Debate her lack of logic

Just sayin'

And it's "you're" when you mean you are; your refers to one's ownership, like "your opinion". Seemus you're a writer, you should know this, it is third grade grammer. (Sorry, couldn't resist, it's a pet peeve).

Dawn

Opps I mean Seamus. It's an uncommon name.

Its actually Pronounced 'Shaymiss'. Yes. It's Irish for James. What's very, very sad is that I made a reply to your comment and I get chucked in the bear pit! But its okay for Dawn to call me SEEMUS? Cmon lol. Now thats 3rd grade. You can't obviously handle what you dish out. Oh I changed the wording in the post you mentioned.

[Dawn Meredith]

I am sorry I had a typo on your name. I should have edited it when I caught it but I did immediately repost with an "opps".

[Seamus Coogan]

I am sorry I had a typo on your name. I should have edited it when I caught it but I did immediately repost with an "opps".

It's all cool mate. Sorry if I was a bit testy. I should have told you that the person who actually checks my spelling and grammar had her brother die of liver failure about two days ago. It's really sad the families been through a lot.

[Betty Chruscielski]

Which window? This is unclear. The rear passenger window or the rear windscreen?

You'll have to take that up with the WC. They're the ones who chose who testified and who didn't. Lot's of people wanted or expected to testify and they were never called.

Why pick on just Decker as having 'seen everything'? Hundreds of people were in the DP that day and saw what happened with their own eyes and do not have one version of the events and millions have seen the Zapruder film and still people see different things. Some see Greeer shooting...

Sherriff Decker did testify to the WC but to only to his involvement with Oswald. He did not testify to ride in the lead car.

[Charles Drago]

No.

No one saw Greer shooting because we know that Greer did not shoot in Dealey Plaza.

[Bernice Moore]

The throat entry wound couldn't be from the lead car because the entry point through the windshield was off to the right and down from the rear view mirror. If you drew a straight line from this bullet hole in the windshield to the lead car it would go through Jackie not Jack.

The Greer theory is false mainly because it would have happened in front of dozens of people who would have seen it happen right in front of them. (PLEASE don't explain to me why the Greer shot was plausible)

To really understand my point a person needs to listen to Doug Weldon's presentation
This is the site of the video. It is in 16 parts. He's very thorough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czQKoxjcvgc.
I know the doctor stated she put her finger through a bullet hole, but that bullet hole no longer exists according to the testimony given by the autoworker whose testimony is given in Doug's presentation.
When you say to draw a straight line from the lead car through the bullet hole in the windshield you hit Jackie, I' m not sure of a couple of things.
1)Are you referring to Jim Altgen's photo, the one Fetzer says is the bullet hole?
2)Since we are not sure of the position of the lead car when the bullet was fired, how can we draw a straight line?

i am not and cannot speak for Doug Weldon, but i can tell you positively, through studying with him,his opinion, that he does not believe a shot came from the lead car..nor that GREER shot JFK .his work is very clear, he ponders a shot from the south side of the overpass..below is a catch from his program..fyi.....b

[Peter Lemkin]

It is so sad to see this totally fictitious non-event [shooting from Greer or its new varient - from the lead car] endlessly derailing discussions of Dallas. It is like a vampire or zombie that continually arises from the dead. No one that was there that day saw Greer shoot. Many who would/could have were next to JFK or within a few yards of the car. No photos show it. No verifiable films do. Yes, one doctored film seems to show it - but it has been altered [and we know that for a fact] - likely by the cover-up crowd of the original cover-up detail. There are some places that extra shots could possibly have come from - BUT the front seat of the President's Limo and/or the lead car are not possible locations. Put a wooden stake through its heart...again! In the end this is just made to take up time and energy and deflect from serious discussion of the events. It is as impossible, out-of-touch with reality, and magical as the magic bullet or that LHO was a loner or a nut. IMHO

[Charles Drago]

The Greer and Lead Car "arguments" have been exposed for what they are -- fictions designed to deistract and fragment JFK assassination investigators.

Is "Betty Chruscielski" simply a well-intentioned fool? An agent of disinformation? A real person or a composite identity?

In the final analysis, "her" intentions and identity are of keen interest. But "her" presentations here must be treated with utter disdain.

Expose the falsehoods. Laugh "her" out of the room.

But under no circumstances engage "her" in debate.

If we do, then the killers of JFK win the day.

[Bernice Moore]

Well said Peter a waste of resources, i came back to let Betty know, A MESSAGE FROM DOUG..ABOUT HER REMARK ABOUT NOT SPEAKING WITH CHANEY; .''Thank you. It gets so ridiculous. I did not talk to Chaney because he was dead when i sought to do so. I talked to many officers about him and also had a nice conversation with his widow.''......