The Eleventh Day by Tony Summers and Robbyn Swan

[Bill Kelly]

Vanity Fair Excerpt:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/featu...rentPage=1

Tony Summers on Charlie Rose TV show:

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11800

Transcript of Charlie Rose show:

http://billsbooksblog.blogspot.com/

[Phil Dragoo]

Saudis in Denial

In spite of the fact that it had almost immediately become known that 15 of those implicated in the attacks had been Saudis, President George W. Bush did not hold Saudi Arabia's official representative in Washington at arm's length. As early as the evening of September 13, he kept a scheduled appointment to receive Prince Bandar at the White House. The two men had known each other for years. They reportedly greeted each other with a friendly embrace, smoked cigars on the Truman Balcony, and conversed with Vice President Dick Cheney and National-Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice.

There is a photograph of the meeting, which has been published in the past. This year, however, when the authors asked the George W. Bush presidential library for a copy, the library responded in an e-mail that the former president's office was "not inclined to release the image from the balcony at this time."

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[Carsten Wiethoff]

While I welcome a book examining the Saudi connection to "Al Quaida" and the 9/11 operatives and the intimate relationship between the US government and Saudi Arabia, I am frustrated by the out of hand dismissal of any and all "conspiracy theories" around 9/11.
There are so many glaring inconsistencies regarding the hijackers, the planes, the passengers, the destruction of the buildings, the war games, the NORAD response and the aftermath of the events that have never been explained (and probably never will be). To just say that all "conspiracy theories" around these issues have no merit is either ignorance in the extreme or denial.

[Ed Jewett]

Vanity Fair and The Charlie Rose Show seemed to be favored places for planting.

[Gary Severson]

While I welcome a book examining the Saudi connection to "Al Quaida" and the 9/11 operatives and the intimate relationship between the US government and Saudi Arabia, I am frustrated by the out of hand dismissal of any and all "conspiracy theories" around 9/11.
There are so many glaring inconsistencies regarding the hijackers, the planes, the passengers, the destruction of the buildings, the war games, the NORAD response and the aftermath of the events that have never been explained (and probably never will be). To just say that all "conspiracy theories" around these issues have no merit is either ignorance in the extreme or denial.

I was under the impression with reading reviews that the conspiracy was implied by the close connection between the Bush Admin. and the Saudis. Is that not the case?

[Magda Hassan]

While I welcome a book examining the Saudi connection to "Al Quaida" and the 9/11 operatives and the intimate relationship between the US government and Saudi Arabia, I am frustrated by the out of hand dismissal of any and all "conspiracy theories" around 9/11.
There are so many glaring inconsistencies regarding the hijackers, the planes, the passengers, the destruction of the buildings, the war games, the NORAD response and the aftermath of the events that have never been explained (and probably never will be). To just say that all "conspiracy theories" around these issues have no merit is either ignorance in the extreme or denial.

I was under the impression with reading reviews that the conspiracy was implied by the close connection between the Bush Admin. and the Saudis. Is that not the case?

No, Gary, it is the case. Bush family and House of Saud are long time business partners and one could say 'friends' as much as people moving in those circles call their strategic alliances'friendships'. I am interested to read the Summers book. I find it strange that he is dismissing 'conspiracy' in this event, which is replete with them, even if some/many are false, given his own knowledge and writing of other historical conspiracies.

[Charles Drago]

The treason of Summers and Swan -- first indicated by the former's "can't be sure" stance on the JFK assassination years after the publications of Conspiracy and Not In Your Lifetime -- is obvious now in The Eleventh Day.

I'm following my m.o. with this lengthy book: spot-checking prior to cover-to-cover. At this point, I can't help but see The Eleventh Day as the 9-11 version of Case Closed.

The main difference: Posner never purported to be on the side of truth and justice.

The authors' mutliple, vicious attacks on David Ray Griffin are most revealing.

I am not suggesting that David Ray Griffin (or, for that matter, James Douglass in the JFK case; I am alone, to the best of my knowledge, among experienced JFK researchers in publicly taking Mr. Douglass to task for at least one failure of deep political judgment: his take on the Chicago non-plot) -- is above criticism.

But as far as Griffin is concerned, Summers and Swan seem to abandon disciplined, informed intellectual argument and get very personal.

More on this when I find the time -- a part of my life that I"ll never get back -- to swim through this limited hang-out sewage pipe (think that sweet scene from The Shawshank Redemption).

[Bill Kelly]

The treason of Summers and Swan -- first indicated by the former's "can't be sure" stance on the JFK assassination years after the publications of Conspiracy and Not In Your Lifetime -- is obvious now in The Eleventh Day.

I'm following my m.o. with this lengthy book: spot-checking prior to cover-to-cover. At this point, I can't help but see The Eleventh Day as the 9-11 version of Case Closed.

The main difference: Posner never purported to be on the side of truth and justice.

The authors' mutliple, vicious attacks on David Ray Griffin are most revealing.

I am not suggesting that David Ray Griffin (or, for that matter, James Douglass in the JFK case; I am alone, to the best of my knowledge, among experienced JFK researchers in publicly taking Mr. Douglass to task for at least one failure of deep political judgment: his take on the Chicago non-plot) -- is above criticism.

But as far as Griffin is concerned, Summers and Swan seem to abandon disciplined, informed intellectual argument and get very personal.

More on this when I find the time -- a part of my life that I"ll never get back -- to swim through this limited hang-out sewage pipe (think that sweet scene from The Shawshank Redemption).

First off, only Summers wrote Conspiracy and Not In Your Lifetime update, not Swan, and Tony never retracted what he wrote and the "can't be sure" quote refers to the evidence of conspiracy that is admissible in court.

As for the "conspiracy theories" regarding 9/11, they are clearly referring to the ideas that no planes were flown in to buildings, that George Bush organized the attacks and that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolitions. I too am reading the book, and I agree with them that the nonsense of these claims detracts from the real issues that should be given attention - the financing of the operation by Saudis, the Pakistani connections and the failure of the US intelligence to stop the attacks, as well as the failures of the administration and DOD during the attacks. The idea that three Saudi princes were assassinated within a week has yet to be fully investigated, along with the destruction of records and the continued withholding of relevant documents.

Tony's books on the JFK assassination are among the best on the subject, and this one goes far beyond the 9/11 Commission whitewash, dispenses with silly theories that distract from the real issues and tries to focus on what really happened, how they did it and why they weren't prevented from doing so.

If Tony and Robbyn are traitors, then count me as one too.

Bill Kelly

[Charles Drago]

As for the "conspiracy theories" regarding 9/11, they are clearly referring to the ideas that no planes were flown in to buildings, that George Bush organized the attacks and that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolitions.

Bill, if you cannot see the distinction between the first two claims and the third claim you reference above, you open yourself to the charge of deep political naivete. And I know you better than that.

OF COURSE planes were flown into the buildings (specifics here, in terms of the planes, remain cloudy). OF COURSE George Bush couldn't organize a one-man crime family.

If Summers and Swan conjoin these charges, by definition they are guilty as charged by me.

If Tony and Robbyn are traitors, then count me as one too. Bill Kelly

I will do no such thing, Bill.

You are the last person I would so describe.

[Bill Kelly]

As for the "conspiracy theories" regarding 9/11, they are clearly referring to the ideas that no planes were flown in to buildings, that George Bush organized the attacks and that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolitions.

Bill, if you cannot see the distinction between the first two claims and the third claim you reference above, you open yourself to the charge of deep political naivete. And I know you better than that.

OF COURSE planes were flown into the buildings (specifics here, in terms of the planes, remain cloudy). OF COURSE George Bush couldn't organize a one-man crime family.

If Summers and Swan conjoin these charges, by definition they are guilty as charged by me.

If Tony and Robbyn are traitors, then count me as one too. Bill Kelly

I will do no such thing, Bill.

You are the last person I would so describe.

Thank you Charles,
I am a loyal friend to those I respect and trust and include you as well as Tony and Robbyn among them.

Bill Kelly