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Occupy Everywhere - Sept 17th - Day of Rage Against Wall Street and what it stands for!
Some fellow once said "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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Ed Jewett Wrote:Some fellow once said "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

In TRUTH!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Wasn't it JFK?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Yes, JFK....MLK said it also...will try to find. :loco: Found it, MLK was quoting JFK in one of his speeches.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino today defended the arrests of scores of Occupy Boston protesters in a section of the city's Greenway park, saying he agrees with them on the issues but they couldn't be allowed to "tie up the city.""I understand they have freedom of speech and freedom of expression, but we have a city to manage," he said in a telephone interview. "I'm open to suggestions, but civil disobedience will not be tolerated."

The early morning arrests of the protesters, who have gathered downtown in recent days to criticize the financial industry and social inequality, began at about 1:20 a.m. Police said late this afternoon that 141 people had been arrested.
"The message they are saying ... is the middle class of America is having a difficult time. That's the issue they are trying to get across," Menino said.
"I agree with them on the issues. Foreclosure. Corporate greed. These are issues I've been working on my entire career. But you can't tie up a city," he said.
He said protesters had crossed two lines, first, by marching on the North Washington Street Bridge and threatening to tie up traffic and, second, by expanding their campground to a newly renovated area of the Greenway that the city had asked them to stay off.
Occupy Boston said today in a statement that police had "brutally attacked" protesters.
"Today's reprehensible attack by the Boston Police Department represents a sad and disturbing shift away from dialogue and towards violent repression," the group said on its website.
"Members of Veterans for Peace [a peace group that has joined the loosely organized protest] carrying American flags were pushed to the ground and their flags trampled as the police hauled them away," the group said in a statement.
Boston police spokeswoman Elaine Driscoll said officers "have a right to protect themselves," and acted with restraint.
"We believe all our officers were respectful and proportional," she said.
She said police felt compelled to break up the demonstration when it expanded beyond Dewey Square, where protesters have been camped for nearly two weeks, to the adjacent section of the Greenway.
"We have been very accomodating to everyone's right to demonstrate peaceably," she said. "But when unpredictability starts to enter the scenario, we are obligated to maintain public order and protect public safety."
She said camping overnight on the Greenway, a public park, is generally not allowed. Police can also arrest groups of people for "unlawful assembly" if they do not disperse when ordered.
The first wave of those arrested made their appearances in Boston Municipal Court this afternoon.
By mid-afternoon, nine men who were still in custody, and 10 more men who had been released by police, were notified that Suffolk prosecutors wanted their cases converted into civil infractions from criminal violations.
Municipal Court Judge Raymond Dougan agreed to the request by prosecutors from Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley's office. All 19 had originally faced two criminal charges. One, unlawful assembly, carries a maximum sentence of a year in the county jail or a $500 fine. The second, violation of a municipal bylaw, carries a $300 fine. The protesters were ordered to pay a $50 assessment fee to the courts.
The arrests began around 1:20 a.m. when police lined up on Atlantic Avenue. Minutes later, dozens of sheriff vans and police wagons arrived, and more than 200 officers, both in uniforms and riot gear, surrounded the section of the Greenway -- bounded by Atlantic Avenue, Congress, Purchase, and Pearl streets -- occupied by the protesters.
Police Superintendent William Evans and Commissioner Edward F. Davis watched from across the street. Evans gave the crowd two minutes to disperse, warning that they would be locked up if they did not comply.
The crowd, energized by the sudden appearance of the Boston and transit police officers, chanted, The people united will never be defeated,'' "This is a peaceful protest," and "The whole world is watching.''
About 10 minutes later, the first officers entered the park and surrounded the group. Evans, using a loudspeaker, gave one more warning and then each protester was individually put on his or her stomach, cable-tied, and dragged off as other officers tore down tents and arrested and detained people on the fringe of the park.
One police officer was hit in the face. According to police, no protesters or police were seriously injured.
A number of protesters retreated from the Greenway to Dewey Square when police arrived.
Urszula Masny-Latos, executive director of the National Lawyers Guild's Northeast regional office, said she was on the scene as a legal observer. The Guild is a national non-profit that often represents people engaged in civil disobedience.
Masny-Latos said no protesters fought with police. She said police could have employed a technique routinely used at other protests police approach a protester, tell them they are violating the law, and the protester then submits to being taken into custody and still achieved their goal of clearing the area.
"They really attacked,'' Masny-Latos said of police. "They used force that was completely unnecessary. … It was just brutal. I have no idea why they arrested us with such force.''
To her shock, Masny-Latos herself was among those arrested. She said Boston police usually respect the legal observers the guild routinely dispatches to public protests.
However, even though she was wearing a green hat with the words, "legal observer'' clearly visible, Masny-Latos said, she was the second person arrested by police.
"It was very surprising,'' she said of being arrested. "Boston police usually respect our legal observers. And they usually leave us alone. … I was legal observing. I wasn't even chanting anything.''
"Four officers grabbed me and dragged me,'' she said. "I begged them to stop, [told them that that] they were hurting me. I have no idea why they arrested us with such force.''
Police had earlier warned the approximately 1,000 protesters to leave the Greenway area and relocate to either Dewey Square or a small, adjacent strip of the Greenway.
John Nilles, 74, a former Marine from Medford who served in Vietnam and is a member of Veterans for Peace, said he was knocked down during the arrests.
He believes he did not get arrested in the chaos because he got knocked down and banged up his knee.
"I have absolutely no use for police anymore," he said. "I don't know what I'm going to do."
He talked about how it reminded him of the 1960s. "This is not the world I intended to come back to," he said in reference to Vietnam.
James Woods, 52, of Roxbury, a protester who was not arrested, said this morning that police had not used their batons but he had seen them "aggressively manhandling women." He also said police had used pepper spray on some people. The site was cleared, he said, and protesters' cameras, tents, and clothes were thrown into a dumpster.
The section of the Greenway once occupied by the protesters remained closed off this morning, surrounded by groups of police officers and steel barricades.
The Rose F. Kennedy Greenway is a strip of green that winds through downtown Boston, named in honor of the matriarch of the legendary Kennedy political family. The park was created when an unsightly elevated highway through the center of the city was placed in a tunnel as part of the mammoth Big Dig project.
The Occupy Boston protest is one of the offshoots of the Occupy Wall Street protest that began in September in New York City. The loosely organized movement has recently begun drawing attention from Democrats and unions. Earlier Monday, hundreds of college students had marched through the city's streets in a show of support.
Occupy Boston describes itself as the "beginning of an ongoing discussion about reforming Wall Street and removing special interests from government" and it says it is just one of more than 120 encampments nationwide.

http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrodesk/2...index.html

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http://www.ibiblio.org/ebooks/Thoreau/Ci...dience.pdf
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Occupy Wall Street and "The American Autumn": Is It a "Colored Revolution"?
Part I

by Michel Chossudovsky


There is a grassroots protest movement unfolding across America, which includes people from all walks of life, from all age groups, conscious of the need for social change and committed to reversing the tide.
The grassroots of this movement constitutes a response to the "Wall Street agenda" of financial fraud and manipulation which has served to trigger unemployment and poverty across the land.
Does this movement constitute in its present form an instrument of meaningful reform and social change in America?
What is the organizational structure of the movement? Who are its main architects?
Has the movement or segments within this movement been co-opted?
This is an important question, which must be addressed by those who are part of the Occupy Wall Street Movement as well as those who, across America, support real democracy.
Introduction
Historically, progressive social movements have been infiltrated, their leaders co-opted and manipulated, through the corporate funding of non-governmental organizations, trade unions and political parties. The ultimate purpose of "funding dissent" is to prevent the protest movement from challenging the legitimacy of the Wall Street elites:
"In a bitter irony, part of the fraudulent financial gains on Wall Street in recent years have been recycled to the elites' tax exempt foundations and charities. These windfall financial gains have not only been used to buy out politicians, they have also been channelled to NGOs, research institutes, community centres, church groups, environmentalists, alternative media, human rights groups, etc.
The inner objective is to "manufacture dissent" and establish the boundaries of a "politically correct" opposition. In turn, many NGOs are infiltrated by informants often acting on behalf of western intelligence agencies. Moreover, an increasingly large segment of the progressive alternative news media on the internet has become dependent on funding from corporate foundations and charities.
The objective of the corporate elites has been to fragment the people's movement into a vast "do it yourself" mosaic." (See Michel Chossudovsky, Manufacturing Dissent: the Anti-globalization Movement is Funded by the Corporate Elites, Global Research, September 20, 2010)
"Manufacturing Dissent"
At the same time, "manufactured dissent" is intent upon promoting political and social divisions (e.g. within and between political parties and social movements). In turn, it encourages the creation of factions within each and every organization.
With regard to the anti-globalization movement, this process of division and fragmentation dates back to early days of the World Social Forum. (See Michel Chossudovsky, Manufacturing Dissent: The Anti-globalization Movement is Funded by the Corporate Elites, Global Research, September 20, 2010)
Most of the progressive organizations of the post-World War II period, including the European "Left" have, in the course of the last thirty years, been transformed and remoulded. The "Free Market" system (Neoliberalism) is the consensus of the "Left". This applies, among others, to the Socialist Party in France, the Labour Party in Britain, the Social Democrats in Germany, not to mention the Green Party in France and Germany.
In the US, bi-partisanship is not the result of the interplay of Congressional party politics. A handful of powerful corporate lobby groups control both the Republicans and the Democrats. The "bi-partisan consensus" is established by the elites who operate behind the scenes. It is enforced by the main corporate lobby groups, which exert a stranglehold over both major political parties.
In turn, the leaders of the AFL-CIO have also been co-opted by the corporate establishment against the grassroots of the US labor movement.
The leaders of organized labor attend the annual meetings of the Davos World Economic Forum (WEF). They collaborate with the Business Roundtable. But at the same time, the grassroots of the US labor movement has sought to to carry out organizational changes which contribute to democratizing the leadership of individual trade unions.
The elites will promote a "ritual of dissent" with a high media profile, with the support of network TV, the corporate news as well as the internet.
The economic elites -- which control major foundations -- also oversee the funding of numerous civil society organizations, which historically have been involved in the protest movement against the established economic and social order. The programs of many NGOs (including those involved in the Occupy Wall Street Movement) rely heavily on funding from private foundations including the Ford, Rockefeller, MacArthur, Tides foundations, among others.
Historically, the anti-globalization movement which emerged in the 1990s has opposed Wall Street and the Texas oil giants controlled by Rockefeller, et al. Yet the foundations and charities of Rockefeller, Ford et al have, over the years, generously funded progressive anti-capitalist networks as well as environmentalists (opposed to Big Oil) with a view to ultimately overseeing and shaping their various activities.
"Colored Revolutions"
In the course of the last decade, "colored revolutions" have emerged in several countries. The "colored revolutions" are US intelligence ops which consist in covertly supporting protest movements with a view to triggering "regime change" under the banner of a pro-democracy movement.
"Colored revolutions" are supported by the National Endowment for Democracy, the International Republican Institute and Freedom House, among others. The objective of a "colored revolution" is to foment social unrest and use the protest movement to topple the existing government. The ultimate foreign policy goal is to instate a compliant pro-US government (or "puppet regime").
From "The Arab Spring" to "Occupy Wall Street": The Role of OTPOR
In Egypt's "Arab Spring", the main civil society organizations including Kifaya (Enough) and The April 6 Youth Movement were not only supported by US based foundations, they also had the endorsement of the US State Department. (For details see Michel Chossudovsky, The Protest Movement in Egypt: "Dictators" do not Dictate, They Obey Orders, Global Research, January 29, 2011)
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Egyptian dissidents, Fellows of Freedom House in Washington DC (2008)

"In a bitter irony, Washington supported the Mubarak dictatorship, including its atrocities, while also backing and financing its detractors,... Under the auspices of Freedom House, Egyptian dissidents and opponents of Hosni Mubarak (see above) were received in May 2008 by Condoleezza Rice ... and White House National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley." (See Michel Chossudovsky, The Protest Movement in Egypt: "Dictators" do not Dictate, They Obey Orders, Global Research, January 29, 2011)

The following year (May 2009), a delegation of Egyptian dissidents was received by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (See below)

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US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton speaks with "Egyptian activists promoting freedom and democracy", prior to meetings at the State Department in Washington, DC, May 28, 2009.
The Centre for Applied Non Violent Action and Strategies (CANVAS)

Dissidents of Egypt's April 6 Youth Movement, which, for several years, was in permanent liaison with the US Embassy in Cairo, were trained by Serbia's Centre for Applied Non Violent Action and Strategies (CANVAS), a consulting and training firm specializing in "Revolution" supported by DH and the NED.

CANVAS was established in 2003 by OTPOR, a CIA supported Serbian organization which played a central role in the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic in the wake of the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia.
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Barely two months after the end of the 1999 bombings of Yugoslavia, OTPOR was spearheaded into playing a central role in the installation of a US-NATO sponsored "caretaker" government in Serbia. These developments also paved the way towards the secession of Montenegro from Yugoslavia, the establishment of the US Bondsteel military base and the eventual formation a Mafia State in Kosovo.
In August 1999, the CIA is reported to have set up a training program for OTPOR in Bulgaria's capital Sofia:
"In the summer of 1999, the head of the CIA, George Tenet, set up shop in Sofia, Bulgaria to "educate" the Serb opposition. Last August. 28 [2000], the BBC confirmed that a special 10-day class had been given to the Otpor militants, also in Sofia.
The CIA program is a program in successive phases. Early on, they flatter the Serbs' patriotism and spirit of independence, acting as if they respect these qualities. But after having sown confusion and broken the unity of the country, the CIA and NATO would go much further."

(Gerard Mugemangano and Michel Collon, "To be partly controlled by the CIA ? That doesn't bother me much.", Interview with two activists of the Otpor student movement, International Action Center (IAC),To be partly controlled by the CIA ? October 6, 2000. See also "CIA is tutoring Serbian group, Otpor",The Monitor, Sofia, translated by Blagovesta Doncheva, Emperors Clothes, September 8, 2000 )
"The Revolution Business"
OTPOR's Centre for Applied Non Violent Action and Strategies (CANVAS) describes itself as "an International network of trainers and consultants" involved in the "Revolution Business". Funded by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), it constitutes a consulting outfit, advising and training US sponsored opposition groups in more than 40 countries.


OTPOR played a key role in Egypt.

Egypt Tahir Square: What appeared to be a spontaneous democratization process was a carefully planned intelligence operation. View video below.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpXbA6yZY-8

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Egypt. The Logo of the April 6 Movement
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Egypt's "April 6 Youth Movement," the same fist logo, Source Infowars
Both the April 6 Movement and Kifaya (Enough!) received prior training from CANVAS in Belgrade "in the strategies of non-violent revolution". "According to Stratfor, The tactics used by the April 6 Movement and Kifaya "were straight out of CANVAS's training curriculum." (Quoted in Tina Rosenberg,Revolution U, Foreign Policy, February 16, 2011 )
It is worth noting the similarity of the logos as well as the names involved in CANVAS-OTPOR sponsored "Colored Revolutions" The April 6 Youth Movement in Egypt used the clenched fist as its logo, Kifaya ("Enough!") has the same name as the Youth Protest movement supported by OTPOR in Georgia which was named Kmara! ("Enough!"). Both groups were trained by CANVAS.
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Georgia's Kmara ("Enough!")
The Role of CANVAS-OTPOR in the Occupy Wall Street Movement
CANVAS-OPTOR is currently involved in the Occupy Wall Street Movement (#OWS).
Several key organizations currently involved in The Occupy Wall Street (#OWS) movement played a significant role in "The Arab Spring". Of significance, "Anonymous", the social media "hacktivist" group, was involved in waging cyber-attacks on Egyptian government websites at the height of "The Arab Spring".(http://anonops.blogspot.com)
Last August, "Anonymous" waged similar cyber-attacks directed against the Syrian Ministry Defense. These cyber-attacks were waged in support of the Syrian "opposition" in exile, which is largely integrated by Islamists. (See Syrian Ministry Of Defense Website Hacked By 'Anonymous', Huffington Post, August 8, 2011).
The actions of "Anonymous" in Syria are consistent with the framework of the "Colored Revolutions". They seek to demonize the Syrian regime and create political instability. (For analysis on Syria's Opposition, see Michel Chossudovsky, SYRIA: Who is Behind The Protest Movement? Fabricating a Pretext for a US-NATO "Humanitarian Intervention" Global Research, May 3, 2011)

Both CANVAS and Anonymous are now actively involved in the Occupy Wall Street Movement.
The precise role of CANVAS in the Occupy Wall Street Movement remains to be assessed.
Ivan Marovic, a leader of CANVAS recently addressed the Occupy Wall Street protest movement in New York City. Listen carefully to his speech. (Bear in mind that his organization CANVAS is supported by NED).
Click link below to listen to Ivan Marovic's address to Occupy Wall Street in New York City
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkM3BBtc7N0
Marovic acknowledged in an earlier statement that there is nothing spontaneous in the planning of a "revolutionary event":
"It looks like people just went into the street. But it's the result of months or years of preparation. It is very boring until you reach a certain point, where you can organize mass demonstrations or strikes. If it is carefully planned, by the time they start, everything is over in a matter of weeks." (Quoted in Tina Rosenberg, Revolution U, Foreign Policy, February 16, 2011)


This statement by OTPOR's spokesperson Ivan Marovic would suggest that the protest movements in the Arab World did not spread spontaneously from one country to another, as portrayed by the Western media. The national protest movements were planned well in advance. The chronology and sequencing of these national protest movements were also planned.

Similarly, Maravic's statement also suggests that The Occupy Wall Street movement was also the object of careful advanced planning by a number of key organizations on tactics and strategy.
It is worth noting that one of OTPOR's tactics is "not try to avoid arrests", but rather to "provoke them and use them to the movement's advantage." as a PR strategy. (Ibid)
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Occupy Wall Street Clenched Fist on http://occupywallst.org
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PART II of this article will examine the mainstay of the Occupy Wall Street movement, including the role of NGO organizers.
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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http://cryptome.org/0005/ows-out.pdf

A ten-paragraph letter from the CEO of Brookfield Properties (whose affiliate owns Zucotti Park) to the Police Commissioner in Gotham City.
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BLOOMBERG VS. OCCUPY

[Image: 6a00d83451576d69e2015392472870970b-120wi]Mayor Bloomberg is moving to shut down Occupy Wall Street at Liberty Square tomorrow at 7 AM.The ruse he is using: the need to clean the "park." He has promised that Liberty Square will be reopened after the cleaning but nobody will be allowed to set up anything in park, nor will sleeping bags be allowed (click the sheet to the left for larger version).This is going to get interesting. Will be working up some ideas for how this could play out. Let's start off with an assumption. This is Bloomberg vs. Occupy. One mind vs. many minds. The goal is to coerce him into changing his mind. Dissuade him. Get inside his OODA loop.
  • Go straight for him. Maximize the eviction's taint on Bloomberg's personal brand. Personalize the protest/eviction by attaching the blame to him personally. Pierce his shield of bureaucratic impersonality. Brand the eviction with the name: Bloomberg. This is/will be a global stage, use it.
  • Confuse him. Lots and lots of Flash Mobs. Shut down bridges and major streets. Overwhelm with volume/speed. Non-violent disruption. As soon as police arrive in force, disperse and reassemble at new location. Bikes + Kids. Disrupt, disrupt, disrupt. More flashmobs = more disruption. As long as the square is under attack, keep the city tied in knots. NOTE: If they lock down the area, flashmobs are the best way to participate (and get some exercise).
  • Connect with more people than him. Best way to do this: Eyes in the sky. Get a camera/cameras above Liberty Square. Stream the feed. The better the quality the more impact it will have. It will play across the world. Think about how important AJs video feed over Tahrir was when things got hot. Better yet, get AJ to cover it and stream it.
If you have additional ideas, add them below. Good training in tactical thinking. Hoisted from the comments: The flashmob tactic was tried here in Panama couple of years ago by the SUNTRACS construction workers union, and with very small groups pre-planted all over the city they drove the police absolutely crazy. Police would show up at location A, mob would disperse immediately, two text messages and now TWO flashmobs would block streets at different locations. They never followed up with it (preferring massive marches to display force) but it worked very well and with much less people than #ows has available. [courtesy: Okke]

Posted by John Robb on Thursday, 13 October 2011 at 03:18 PM | Permalink
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The OWS crowd is a ready as they can be. They have both public plans and secret plans for all contingencies. I'm not privy to their secret ones, but their public ones include: refusing to leave for the cleaning [they cleaned it up themselves yesterday]; or only leaving 1/3 of the park at a time [staying on 2/3 of the park at any time] while the park cleaning service re-cleans that 1/3 that they already cleaned yesterday]; massive civil disobedience and arrest - all demanding jury trials to slow down the court system and to get their message across in the forum of the Courts; to seem to go away and then re-occupy that park; they have another undisclosed park to occupy if this one is somehow occupied by the Police; and others. It will all be live-streamed and I strongly suggest all watch. Whatever happens I feel it will [as did the arrests on the Brooklyn Bridge] make the movement grow. Bloomburg is the 1% and a billionaire mayor beholden to Wall St. :wirlitzer: The idea was not original with Mayor B.; Austin, TX was removed 'for cleaning' the other night....as were a few other occupations. It now seems there is a national campaign to close them all down run by HS or some other Federal Agency hiding in the dark with coordinated scenarios.

Whatever happens, until the Police confiscate every last webcam, you can follow it here
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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As I type this Riot Police are tearing down tents et al. in the Denver occupation. So far no arrests....but sense they are coming shortly. Now, the occupiers are just standing back and watching their belongings being thrown away, as if it were garbage. NYC is next in about 2-3 hours....obviously a coordinated 'effort'.....Hitler
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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