Ahmadinejad's UNO speech 2011

[Carsten Wiethoff]

For those who prefer to read the original text instead of propagandized mainstream snippets:
http://gadebate.un.org/sites/default/fil.../IR_en.pdf

I quote some parts from it:

Who used the mysterious September 11 incident as a pretext to attackAfghanistan and Iraq , killing, injuring, and displacing millions in twocountries with the ultimate goal of bringing into its domination the Middle

East and its oil resources?

If some European countries still use the Holocaust, after six decades, as theexcuse to pay fine or ransom to the Zionists, should it not be an obligationupon the slave masters or colonial powers to pay reparations to the affectednations?If the damage and losses of the period of slavery and colonialism were indeedcompensated, what would happen to the manipulators and behind-the-scenepolitical powers in the United States and in Europe? Would there remain any

gaps between the North and the South?

Hypocrisy and deceit are allowed in order to secure their interests andimperialistic goals. Drug- trafficking and killing of innocent human beings arealso allowed in pursuit of such diabolic goals. Despite NATO's presence in theoccupied Afghanistan, there has been a dramatic increase in the production of

illicit drugs there.

By using their imperialistic media network which is under the influence ofcolonialism they threaten anyone who questions the Holocaust and theSeptember 11 event with sanctions and military action.Last year, when the need to form a fact-finding team to undertake a thoroughinvestigation concerning the hidden elements involved in September 11incident was brought up; an idea also endorsed by all independentgovernments and nations as well as by the majority in the United States, mycountry and myself came under pressure and threat by the government of theUnited States.Instead of assigning a fact-finding team, they killed the main perpetrator and

threw his body into the sea.

Some comments from myself:
- Questioning the Holocaust is not going to make you any friends in the west
- Associating the Holocaust with 9/11 is not helpful
- Ahmadinejad seems to accept Osama bin Laden as the "main perpetrator" of 9/11
- Demanding compensation for slavery and colonialism is a concept that will never be accepted in the west

[Peter Lemkin]

I think he'd do much better to remind the world of what the USA and British did to Iran in 1953. There he could really score some points, I think......he's not stupid, but is a bit too dogmatic in his speeches. This one was almost a repeat of an earlier one. As you say, it won't play well, even if it contains a lot of truth...it also contains some [I think] forced connections. Iran has every reason to be en garde from the USA and its intentions - given it past in Iran and the region up until today!.....he should make that history in Iran more clear. There he can ask for understanding and even redress. Sadly, Ian overreacted to the horrors of the USA, IMHO, causing [in turn] the USA to overreact. My housemate at graduate school was from Tehran and I learned much about Iran and Iranians. They are a proud and sophisticated population, highly educated and like all peoples wanting to guide their own destiny. It has been hijacked by the mullahs now [and I think few if given their 'vote' would have it that way inside Iran], but our enmity in the West only strengthens the mullahs and makes it impossible now to break their grip. We caused all this by destabilizing their country long ago....another example of blowback we ignore at our peril.

[Magda Hassan]

Yeah PR not his strong point.
He's not going to bring up 1953 because that was a secular democracy. The one thing more scary than the US is secularism.

[Peter Lemkin]

Yeah PR not his strong point.
He's not going to bring up 1953 because that was a secular democracy. The one thing more scary than the US is secularism.

I guess you are correct here. Oh well, the USA has secret plans fully developed to bomb and invade Iran....they only await their 'window of opportunity'. WWIII could result; at minimum it would ignite the entire Middle East. I guess the whole world had gone mad and we are at that sad point in history......it is a long way back to sanity....but we have to make the effort and a start.

[Ed Jewett]

Yeah PR not his strong point.
He's not going to bring up 1953 because that was a secular democracy. The one thing more scary than the US is secularism.

I guess you are correct here. Oh well, the USA has secret plans fully developed to bomb and invade Iran....they only await their 'window of opportunity'. WWIII could result; at minimum it would ignite the entire Middle East. I guess the whole world had gone mad and we are at that sad point in history......it is a long way back to sanity....but we have to make the effort and a start.

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[Magda Hassan]

Al-Qaida calls on Ahmadinejad to end 9/11 conspiracy theories

• Saeed Kamali Dehghan
  
• guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 28 September 2011 16.24 BST
  

Al-Qaida has sent a message to the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, asking him to stop spreading conspiracy theories about the 9/11 attacks.
Iranian media on Wednesday reported quotes from what appears to be an article published in the latest issue of the al-Qaida English language magazine, Inspire, which described Ahmadinejad's remarks over the 11 September attacks as "ridiculous".
In his UN general assembly speech last week, Ahmadinejad cast doubt over the official version of the 2001 attacks.
"The Iranian government has professed on the tongue of its president Ahmadinejad that it does not believe that al-Qaida was behind 9/11 but rather, the US government," the article said, according to Iranian media. "So we may ask the question: why would Iran ascribe to such a ridiculous belief that stands in the face of all logic and evidence?"
Ahmadinejad said in New York that the "mysterious September 11 incident" had been used as a pretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. He had also previously expressed scepticism at the US version of events.
"By using their imperialistic media network which is under the influence of colonialism, they threaten anyone who questions the Holocaust and the September 11 event with sanctions and military actions," said Ahmadinejad.
The al-Qaida article insisted it had been behind the attacks and criticised the Iranian president for discrediting the terrorist group.
"For them, al-Qaida was a competitor for the hearts and minds of the disenfranchised Muslims around the world," said the article published in the Inspire magazine. "Al-Qaida … succeeded in what Iran couldn't. Therefore it was necessary for the Iranians to discredit 9/11 and what better way to do so? Conspiracy theories."
Al-Qaida also accused Iran of hypocrisy over its "anti-Americanism".
The article said: "For Iran, anti-Americanism is merely a game of politics. It is anti-America when it suits it and it is a collaborator with the US when it suits it, as we have seen in the shameful assistance Iran gave to the US in its invasion of Afghanistan and in the Shia of Iraq, backed by Iran, bringing the American forces into the country and welcoming them with open arms."
During his visit to New York, Ahmadinejad also changed his position on gay people in Iran. He had previously famously said: "We don't have homosexuals [in Iran] like you do in your country. This does not exist in our country."
But according to the American news website the Daily Beast, in a meeting with a number of journalists last week, he said: "In Iran, homosexuality is seen as an ugly act … There may be some people who are homosexuals who are in touch with you. But in Iranian society they're ashamed to announce it so they're not known. This is an act against God and his prophets. But we as the government can't go out and stop people."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep...conspiracy

[Magda Hassan]

:lol:
[video]http://www.theonion.com/video/911-conspiracy-theories-ridiculous-al-qaeda-says,14222/[/video]

[Carsten Wiethoff]

That magazine "inspire" with seven issues pulished is available online at http://publicintelligence.net/complete-i...-magazine/

Let the potential readers be warned that this is something "different" than a usual magazine. Of course I do not endorse any of it.
The seventh issue, out of which the text on Iran is quoted, is a special on 9/11.

[Danny Jarman]

Al-Qaida calls on Ahmadinejad to end 9/11 conspiracy theories

• Saeed Kamali Dehghan
  
• guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 28 September 2011 16.24 BST
  

Al-Qaida has sent a message to the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, asking him to stop spreading conspiracy theories about the 9/11 attacks.
Iranian media on Wednesday reported quotes from what appears to be an article published in the latest issue of the al-Qaida English language magazine, Inspire, which described Ahmadinejad's remarks over the 11 September attacks as "ridiculous".
In his UN general assembly speech last week, Ahmadinejad cast doubt over the official version of the 2001 attacks.
"The Iranian government has professed on the tongue of its president Ahmadinejad that it does not believe that al-Qaida was behind 9/11 but rather, the US government," the article said, according to Iranian media. "So we may ask the question: why would Iran ascribe to such a ridiculous belief that stands in the face of all logic and evidence?"
Ahmadinejad said in New York that the "mysterious September 11 incident" had been used as a pretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. He had also previously expressed scepticism at the US version of events.
"By using their imperialistic media network which is under the influence of colonialism, they threaten anyone who questions the Holocaust and the September 11 event with sanctions and military actions," said Ahmadinejad.
The al-Qaida article insisted it had been behind the attacks and criticised the Iranian president for discrediting the terrorist group.
"For them, al-Qaida was a competitor for the hearts and minds of the disenfranchised Muslims around the world," said the article published in the Inspire magazine. "Al-Qaida … succeeded in what Iran couldn't. Therefore it was necessary for the Iranians to discredit 9/11 and what better way to do so? Conspiracy theories."
Al-Qaida also accused Iran of hypocrisy over its "anti-Americanism".
The article said: "For Iran, anti-Americanism is merely a game of politics. It is anti-America when it suits it and it is a collaborator with the US when it suits it, as we have seen in the shameful assistance Iran gave to the US in its invasion of Afghanistan and in the Shia of Iraq, backed by Iran, bringing the American forces into the country and welcoming them with open arms."
During his visit to New York, Ahmadinejad also changed his position on gay people in Iran. He had previously famously said: "We don't have homosexuals [in Iran] like you do in your country. This does not exist in our country."
But according to the American news website the Daily Beast, in a meeting with a number of journalists last week, he said: "In Iran, homosexuality is seen as an ugly act … There may be some people who are homosexuals who are in touch with you. But in Iranian society they're ashamed to announce it so they're not known. This is an act against God and his prophets. But we as the government can't go out and stop people."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep...conspiracy

This is hilarious, isn't it? If anymore proof was needed Al Qaeda are an entity of the USA...