For Charles Drago

[Jan Klimkowski]

I smell a rat over there. Has ANYONE ever suggested that Ruby fired a blank? "Harvey" could not have faked that reaction and why would he? Not to say he was not finished off for good measure. No clue there. I could not help but weighing in as I see that he has no bio, and a gogle search of him turns up zero. From where did he come? Says he's a retired atty but the pics looks too young to be retired. And since when do you get to call names at EF? Gee the place has really gone downhill eh? :rocker:

Dawn

Schweitzer is either a fool or an enemy agent.

As an informed observation, his MK-ULTRA commentary is ignorant and risible....

[Greg Burnham]

I smell a rat over there. Has ANYONE ever suggested that Ruby fired a blank? "Harvey" could not have faked that reaction and why would he? Not to say he was not finished off for good measure. No clue there. I could not help but weighing in as I see that he has no bio, and a gogle search of him turns up zero. From where did he come? Says he's a retired atty but the pics looks too young to be retired. And since when do you get to call names at EF? Gee the place has really gone downhill eh? :rocker:

Dawn

Schweitzer is either a fool or an enemy agent.

As an informed observation, his MK-ULTRA commentary is ignorant and risible....

Agreed, Jan.

He has now apologized for his vitriolic display, but that hardly makes up for all of his ill-reasoned assertions. It doesn't even get him back to square one. I only jumped on a small portion of his long winded post because there are too many weak points to address in one sitting. The MK-ULTRA dribble would be embarrassing if he wasn't so stubbornly serious about it. As it is, the combination of crap that he offers is a RED FLAG.

[Greg Burnham]

I smell a rat over there. Has ANYONE ever suggested that Ruby fired a blank? "Harvey" could not have faked that reaction and why would he? Not to say he was not finished off for good measure. No clue there. I could not help but weighing in as I see that he has no bio, and a gogle search of him turns up zero. From where did he come? Says he's a retired atty but the pics looks too young to be retired. And since when do you get to call names at EF? Gee the place has really gone downhill eh? :rocker:

Dawn

Hi Dawn,

Thanks for chiming in! His bio is not accessible in the normal way. I don't know why. Here it is:

Posted 27 September 2011 - 11:31 PMMy name is Michael Schweitzer. I am a retired attorney. I earned my living writing pre-trial and appellate briefs for other attorneys (unless their clients were villains). But my passion is justice. My mother's father was the only member of his entire family who escaped to America. The rest were exterminated by Hitler. This has profoundly affected me, and I devoted more of my career to assisting others than seeking income. I helped many good people who were harmed and would otherwise have had no help. And I punished wrongdoers who hurt others, especially by abuse of power, including police and prosecutors. I was eleven years old when President Kennedy was assassinated. I remember at the time everyone saying "they" killed the president. I was sitting with my Dad watching television when Oswald was shot. An ex-Marine and a war hero from Iwo Jimo, he exclaimed, "My God, they just killed Oswald, too!" The trauma of the experience eventually faded into my subconscious. But in 2009, a friend sent me a book about the assassination that renewed my interest. I have spent more than 4,000 hours researching it, independently, drawing on my analytical experience as a lawyer. I have not just read what I believe are the finest books about the event. I went back to as many primary sources as I could find, including the transcripts of the Warren Commission hearings, as well as the original statements of participants and witnesses preserved in various forms of media. I reviewed volumes of recently de-classified CIA internal memoranda, and the 40-volume "Church Committee" report, completed in 1976 after two years of investigation, that unmasked the astonishingly un-American activities of the CIA. I also went back decades in time, studying the life histories of the key individuals. Then I integrated the evidence using what I believe is a unique approach. Rather than assemble pieces of a jigsaw puzzle which produces a 2-dimensional image, I connected the factual "dots" into what looks more like a 3-dimensional isotope, viewable from any angle to reveal a complex array of connections. The surprise that emerges is not the assassination. The surprise would be if there wasn't one.
This post has been edited by Michael Schweitzer: Yesterday, 10:59 PM

Michael Schweitzer

Notice that the last time it was edited was yesterday after nearly 3 months...

[Dawn Meredith]

He punished wrongdoers including police and prosecutors? Very odd statement in itself. And unless the state of CA has some different legalese there is no such thing as a pre trial brief. It's a pre trial motion. (Sometimes one has to brief a particular argument in order to educate the judge).

Basically he is describing more what a paralegal does. I wonder just HOW he "punished police and prosecutors"?

Thanks Greg.

Dawn

[Bernice Moore]

Albert, you mean the old, intern who did respiration tactics on lho, on his abdomen which was the worse thing that could be done, as it flooded blood out of the wound and into the abdomen area as well, meaning, he would bleed to death rapidly, which i believe was the cause of his death on the table at parkland in the end, that has gone out the window now and a newer rendition takes hold, this was out a few months back i did post the info on here, about the no blood angle,but it was i believe a dead duck, left to dry up as it rightly deserved, that new fella over there reminds me of the two other prolific posters, you will noticed the same type of comments, nazi slant, jewish remarks etc, like birds of a feather one after the other coming in to back each other up, could be, it's done all the time...take care..best ,,,beggsplat

[Albert Doyle]

Another thing I thought of was the lack of blood means that if CIA shot Oswald in the ambulance therefore there would be much blood once shot. So if the hospital witnesses can show there was no blood on Oswald upon arrival therefore the logic falters. Besides, shooting Oswald in the ambulance would require a loud groan.

I'm the first person to wish this was true. If Oswald faked being shot it would really bolster the theory that Oswald was cooperating with the Dallas police and was advertizing his lack of legal representation as part of a ruse to blow the case.

The biggest flaw in this theory is that Oswald would have thought he could somehow be freed once in custody for shooting a US president.

[Charles Drago]

I smell a rat over there. Has ANYONE ever suggested that Ruby fired a blank? "Harvey" could not have faked that reaction and why would he? Not to say he was not finished off for good measure. No clue there. I could not help but weighing in as I see that he has no bio, and a gogle search of him turns up zero. From where did he come? Says he's a retired atty but the pics looks too young to be retired. And since when do you get to call names at EF? Gee the place has really gone downhill eh? :rocker:

Dawn

Schweitzer is either a fool or an enemy agent.

As an informed observation, his MK-ULTRA commentary is ignorant and risible....

Agreed, Jan.

He has now apologized for his vitriolic display, but that hardly makes up for all of his ill-reasoned assertions. It doesn't even get him back to square one. I only jumped on a small portion of his long winded post because there are too many weak points to address in one sitting. The MK-ULTRA dribble would be embarrassing if he wasn't so stubbornly serious about it. As it is, the combination of crap that he offers is a RED FLAG.

Here's the thing: If a forum such as this one or the EF prohibit actions undertaken to expose the agents provocateur who incessantly engage us, then by definition such a forum aids and abets the enemy.

The consequences? For example: Over at EF, "Colby" endures despite my outing of "him." And Jan, Dawn, Peter, and I -- among others -- are gone.

Who wins?

Here at DPF, "Colby" would have been outed and banished. "His" game would have been exposed and dissected.

So it goes.

[Charles Drago]

Another thing I thought of was the lack of blood means that if CIA shot Oswald in the ambulance therefore there would be much blood once shot. So if the hospital witnesses can show there was no blood on Oswald upon arrival therefore the logic falters. Besides, shooting Oswald in the ambulance would require a loud groan.

I'm the first person to wish this was true. If Oswald faked being shot it would really bolster the theory that Oswald was cooperating with the Dallas police and was advertizing his lack of legal representation as part of a ruse to blow the case.

The biggest flaw in this theory is that Oswald would have thought he could somehow be freed once in custody for shooting a US president.

A scientist trained a flea to obey the command to fly.

"Fly, flea," said the scientist. And the flea flew.

Then one day the scientist cut off the flea's wings.

"Fly, flea," commanded the scientist. But the flea didn't fly.

And so the scientist concluded, "When one cuts off a flea's wings, the flea becomes deaf."

I don't know how else to react to Albert's "logic."

[Jim DiEugenio]

Well, Dulles was not in the CIA in 1963.

And recall, Howard Hunt had now become his Man Friday so to speak as he was writing The Craft of Intelligence, published in 1963.

This would make Allen the perfect nerve center so to speak for those below him and, what I call, the invisible ones, above him.

IMO, from the evidence I have seen and studied, Dulles would qualify as a facilitator. Not in any way a false sponsor. A guy who knew what happened and then participated as an active agent in the cover up. In fact, one can say with accuracy, he was the single most active agent in the cover up.

Never forget his comment about Ruth Paine, it was words to the effect: If those conspiracy theorists knew I was in Dallas three weeks before the assassination, and that Mary Bancroft was friends with Oswald's landlady, what a field day they would have.

For self incrimination, this ranks with Angleton's famous, "a mansion has many rooms, I am not aware of who shot John" comment.

[Ed Jewett]

• Without having read every last word in this thread, or on this topic...
  
• without taking any sides for or against anyone, any hypothesis, or any scenario (now or in the future)...
  
• without (yes, it is true) offering up a hypothesis or scenario of my own beyond the following;
  
• I would like to make the following observations and comments:
  

#1) The state of the art in terms of street medicine for ambulance attendants in the Deep South in 1963 was next to nil. Absent. Non-existent. I can state that with great comfort and assurance since I was personally involved in the ambulance trade on both sides of the great divide (i.e., before and after change); indeed, I was part of the change. So any attempted insight into what the ambulance staff might or might not have done, or their understanding of the body bio-mechanics of that act, can only be based on an observer's sense based on education, training and public awareness that was built after the change. It's not the scientific biology of the human body that changed; it is the available-to-action understanding of that that was widely available in that society at that time.

I know this because I worked my way through college as an ambulance driver (1966-1975) and, in the great medical mecca of the world known locally as Massachusetts, the enabling legislation passed in 1973, the outgrowth of awareness of trauma surgeons seerving in field hospitals during Vietnam and codified by the AAOS curriculum; I was one of the very first people to take this 40-hour course. [Prior to that, training required a simple first aid course plus. As for CPR, it was essentially brand-new at that time [ http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/CPRAndECC/...ticle.jsp# ] and exists as a "standard of performance" that, even today, is widely debated. And certification even today [ http://www.jems.com/tags/massachusetts-c...on-scandal ] is subject to criminal, fraudulent and other influences. If "folks" can forge passports, how easy might it have been to put a non-standardized ambulance employee into the vehicle that transported LHO, or in the treatment facility? If there were forged SS credentials...

#2) The social standing and professionalism of the average ambulance attendant in the Deep South in 1963 was probably just above sanitation worker. In Massachusetts years later, most emergency ambulance service was a direct extension (sometimes using sub-contracting companies, like they do for towing vehicles) of the police department or, alternately, run by the local funeral service. [See above in re: medical state of the art.] As such, the field was wide open to the exertion of social, political, covert, intimidating pressure on someone in an ambulance as a staff at that time. The events of Dealey Plaza are littered with police "buddies", informants, and sub-tabular alignments and allegiances.

#3) Check with someone conversant with the ballistics of that time and era and weapon, but it is my understanding that a "blank" still files a projectile. That it is mostly a wad of paper and the residue of powder makes it seemingly benign; it can't be harmful as there was no bullet, capische? But at close range the sound of the discharge, the flash of the powder, and the impact of a wad is enough to generate an autonomic reaction of fear and pain that appears to be quite real despite the fact that there was no bullet. In other words, before LHO could bodily comprehend that there was no bullet (if there was none), he could well have had an "apparently nearly fatal" reaction to the wad.

"In other words, before we recognize the stick in our path as not being a snake, we have already jumped out of its way."

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How might the emerging understandings of how the human mind works in bio-neurological terms provide insights that will unlock deep political conundrums?.