Cahalan and the sorrow of Morrow. Quality Versus Quantity?

[Seamus Coogan]

If you have been checking out the Ed Forum recently folks a fellow called Lee Cahalan turned up and started spouting gunk about CTKA.
It even moved Robert Morrow to repeat two posts in which he called me all manner of nasty things. I actually had a long rip shit and bust reply sorted out, but I have resisted biting back. All of my evidence is in what I write on this forum and at CTKA. People can find that stuff out for themselves. I don't want to bore anybody. I'm a stuck bloody record.

The good thing about all their bollocks was that this bought Dawn and Don to town. Dawn and Don effectively translated the hurts and mores of these jilted individuals and it was quite a show. While Cahalan and Morrow took the everything by Hankey, Jones and Fetzer as gospel line. Dawn and Don took a slightly different approach. Now I don't agree with Dawns feelings concerning George Bush (we all know about our different takes). But away from the Bush facade. Their comments certainly make for a good debate away from the wild eyed lunacy of Cahalan and co.

Though before we go on I must admit I had a good giggle with Dawns comments about Jayne (Its Hankey matey) and his RFK Jr Documentary, I have to say Dawn, Lisa Pease as you know has written some superb stuff concerning the crash. It's actually her not myself who should go and publish something. Why pick on me lol?

Dawn and Dons angle is effectively "Sure Hankey and Jones have made mistakes but it's the fact they are getting it out there. Making people think is always good and it's better than the BS in the mainstream media."

I'm a little tired and I'll quit here in. I hope to put any of the issues I have had with Don on the back burner and have a good old fashioned back and forth over quantity versus quality. Is there a middle ground? Can we all get along? Sadly I think not and no doubt I'll make my case. But for now folks the floor is all yours. I just wanna finish off by saying cheers to Dawn, Don and Greg. I have had run in's with you guys in the past. Greg still doesn't trust my temper lol. But the way you guys turned the diatribes into a more fruitful conversation was a real credit to this forum on someone else's. So let's get a talking.

[Charles Drago]

It's Lee Cahalan. Not "Calahan."

If I can, I'll correct your title.

[Seamus Coogan]

It's Lee Cahalan. Not "Calahan."

If I can, I'll correct your title.

I'll do it CD cheers mate.

[Jan Klimkowski]

Seamus - here's the thing.

I met David Guyatt when both of us were - separately - investigating black ops which took place in the 80s and early 90s.

Some of the characters we dealt with had been imprisoned in facilities which don't appear on maps.

Some of them had had their psyches opened up and messed with.

Screen memories.

They were mostly Mechanics.

A couple of them were killers.

I vividly remember the moment when I realized that my access to one of these characters was always mediated, controllled, by a handler. Their girlfriend.

It was like being inside a surreal movie. Like Pesci playing Ferrie in JFK, you knew you were close to the Beast. You could smell him. You could see his slime-ridden tracks. Run your finger through the grease. But you were stuck in a fairground hall of mirrors, and the Beast was fucking with you.

There's much more.

Another vivid memory is establishing through archive and biographical research that a key source had been active in Cointelpro. And then graduated.

This faux "source" was presented to me at a crucial time in my research.

Seamus - always remember that the source you are relying on to "diss" an entire area of research may well be bought and paid for.

A good researcher never forgets the smell of the Beast. The stench can be an invaluable guide through the maze of mirrors.

Their Thanatoid labyrinth.

[Lauren Johnson]

Seamus - always remember that the source you are relying on to "diss" an entire area of research may well be bought and paid for.

Thanks for the reminder, Sensai.

[Greg Burnham]

A good researcher never forgets the smell of the Beast. The stench can be an invaluable guide through the maze of mirrors.

Indeed. It is reminiscent of the sickening sweet scent of putrified human flesh...and sulphur.

[Seamus Coogan]

I think your making reference to my foray into the Diana nexus, I hear you. The problem with it all was that I actually had listened to your advice. For my sanity I just had to clear the air. Maybe it was an over indulgence on my behalf. I accept it was, in my latest piece while I take the mickey out of the pregnancy angle. I start utilising my interweb interviews with you, CD and Magda about the false paradigms offered by Gregory. i do think that had I not discussed the case with yourself I may well have been in danger of creating a false paradigm myself. Thus what I have also done is add an additional piece to my article focussing on Gregory. Further your comments Ed Jewett has also mentioned some very weird stuff to myself in the same vein.

Back to the topic however.

One thing about all this is I have no doubt I have been manipulated at one time or another. I have no doubt I may be being manipulated as I type. I think we are all aware of it. Well maybe not? I think the difference with most members of this forum is that we are humble enough to admit so. What I find frightening about so much of the stuff from Cahalan and others, is that they seem to believe themselves to be immune from any form of manipulation. This then opens itself into believing disinformation. It's here where I really struggle with the whole quality versus quantity debate. It allows false paradigms to be entered into and debated. The classic being the Fetzer-Mack stand off or the Gregory-Al Fayed debates.

[Lauren Johnson]

He's finally starting to test the seemingly infinite patience of EF. They were threatening him, again, with moderation. Tom Scully writes:

Robert Morrow, I unapproved another of your posts, here on this thread. You know why. You've been counseled again and again. I am going to push for a vote to put you back on moderation. The moderating team has been much more than patient with you, but you cannot seem to restrain yourself, in any way. What kind of forum would this place become if everyone did what you are doing, posting over and over, undocumented salacious garbage brimming with unsupported accusations of murder, rape, and illegitimate children.

And Morrow's reply:

Actually, Tom Scully, I don't know why; nobody has contacted me. When I post information I always document it with sources. I am certain credible to speak with some authority on the Clintons because I have literally every book written on them. You may not like my sources and you may not like my analyses, but that does not mean they are not legitimate.

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[Magda Hassan]

They're slow learners over there at the sheletered workshop.

[Seamus Coogan]

They're slow learners over there at the sheletered workshop.

Sheltered Workshop lol. There's some decent folks on there. But they have to be a little wild to tolerate the likes of Calahan and Morrow. I agree Lauren good on Tom Scully, he's a bit all over the show but his call on Morrow is a bloody good one. Every now and again I go back and look at CD slagging him off. Sheesh he should put together a greatest hits compilation. I tried joining in at times but I was very much Charlie Hutch and handing out the water and towels on stage.