Gladio: a documented 'false flag' terror campaign

[Jan Klimkowski]

Jan, It was meant as obvious humor because it is garbage. First, it shows MM as the bizarre figure that he is. The subtle hints that Obamma is the fulfillment of MM's sage predictions of the obiousness of the revelation of the anit-christ is just as bizarre. I guess what I saw as obvious humor was not obvious.

I have no problem taking it down. I did think it was interesting to listen to the words of MM, however.

Lauren - thanks. No need to take it down, but sometimes a sign or a steer may be in order to contextualise garbage.

Pace John Perkins, Malachi Martin's life might be entitled Confessions of a Vatican Hit Man.

My own view is that much of what he said was authorized at a very high, namely Sponsor, level.

That does not mean that everything Malachi Martin uttered was reliable. Indeed, quite the opposite.

Charles correctly brought Satan into it......

[Lauren Johnson]

My own view is that much of what he said was authorized at a very high, namely Sponsor, level.

Since his book Hostage to the Devil inscribes the power of the Catholic Church as holding the only keys to fighting satanic forces, I can only imagine who those sponsors might be. Maybe the ones who freed him from his vows of chastity and poverty while allowing him to remain a priest?

[Carsten Wiethoff]

In the interest of focusing on Oswald LeWinter again, I would like to mention the article in the Washington Post from Feb. 15, 2001 called "Tinker, Tailor, Poet, Spy?".
The article is payware on the archive site of the Washington Post, which is why I do not quote here in it's entirety, but it can be found on the net.
Here is the free preview:

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[TD="class: docTitle, colspan: 2"]Tinker, Tailor, Poet, Spy?; He's Played the Part of an Ex-CIA Agent for Years Now. It's a Convincing Act.
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[TD="colspan: 2"][John Macnamara] and "[Mearah]" -- [Oswald LeWinter] -- met again at 6:30, this time in the AmbassadorHotel's bar, where Austrian authorities arrested the bogus secret agent. As they wrestled him out of the bar, LeWinter screamed that he and other CIA operatives would kill Macnamara and Fayed. A short while later, authorities searched LeWinter's hotel room and found a pile of forged CIA documents, $10,000 in cash and a gas pistol with 25 rounds of ammunition.
Imprisoned at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, LeWinter met and befriended [Karl Koecher], a Czech spy caught working as a translator for the CIA whom U.S. authorities eventually traded for Soviet Jewish dissident Natan Sharansky. Koecher obviously left a big impression on LeWinter: As he prepared to shake Fayed down years later in Vienna, Koecher was on hand -- lured to Vienna by his former prison mate. Koecher, who booked LeWinter's room at the Bamberg, later denied any involvement in the plot and said he left before LeWinter even met with Macnamara.
The documentary, which aired on Britain's Channel 4, presented LeWinter as an officer who served in the CIA from 1968 to 1985. LeWinter helped bolster the documentary's thesis that U.S. and British authorities engaged in a coverup after the bombing and may have known about it in advance and failed to intervene. The U.S. government denounced the documentary and LeWinter's claim to be a CIA agent.
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[Carsten Wiethoff]

I dream of walking through shrouded woods to a prison sanatorium looking strangely like this:

Jan, after you identified [your dream of] a certain prison sanatorium in Vienna, I was able to find several references to indicate that Oswald LeWinter indeed spent two years of his four year term in exactly the same place, before being released.
Quote from http://www.news-magazin.at/articles/0345...rdkomplott (in German)

Anno 1998 wollte der erwerbstüchtige Mann dem trauernden Mohammed Al-Fayed für 190 Mio. Schilling vier CIA-Dokumente veräußern, die das Mordkomplott gegen Sohn Dodi und Lady Di beweisen sollten. Eine plumpe Fälschung, konterte die CIA und ließ Le Winter bei der Übergabe festsetzen: zwei Jahre Haft auf der Wilhelmshöhe zu Pressbaum bei Wien wegen versuchten schweren Betrugs.

My translation:
In 1998 the man who knew how to make a buck wanted to sell four CIA documents to the grieving Mohammed Al-Fayed for 190 Million Schillings. These documents should prove the murder conspiracy against [Fayed's] son Dodi and Lady Di. A crude fake, the CIA countered, and had Lewinter arrested at the handover: Two years of imprisonment at the Wilhelmshöhe at Pressbaum near Vienna because of attempted serious fraud.


It has to be said that officially today this is a place for treatment of inmates for lung diseases.

http://strafvollzug.justiz.gv.at/einrich...t.php?id=2 (in German)

[Peter Lemkin]

I dream of walking through shrouded woods to a prison sanatorium looking strangely like this:

Jan, after you identified [your dream of] a certain prison sanatorium in Vienna, I was able to find several references to indicate that Oswald LeWinter indeed spent two years of his four year term in exactly the same place, before being released.
Quote from http://www.news-magazin.at/articles/0345...rdkomplott (in German)

Anno 1998 wollte der erwerbstüchtige Mann dem trauernden Mohammed Al-Fayed für 190 Mio. Schilling vier CIA-Dokumente veräußern, die das Mordkomplott gegen Sohn Dodi und Lady Di beweisen sollten. Eine plumpe Fälschung, konterte die CIA und ließ Le Winter bei der Übergabe festsetzen: zwei Jahre Haft auf der Wilhelmshöhe zu Pressbaum bei Wien wegen versuchten schweren Betrugs.

My translation:
In 1998 the man who knew how to make a buck wanted to sell four CIA documents to the grieving Mohammed Al-Fayed for 190 Million Schillings. These documents should prove the murder conspiracy against [Fayed's] son Dodi and Lady Di. A crude fake, the CIA countered, and had Lewinter arrested at the handover: Two years of imprisonment at the Wilhelmshöhe at Pressbaum near Vienna because of attempted serious fraud.


It has to be said that officially today this is a place for treatment of inmates for lung diseases.

http://strafvollzug.justiz.gv.at/einrich...t.php?id=2 (in German)

Two years is a very short sentence [more so in a sanitarium, not a prison] for trying to sell allegedly fake CIA documents - and in such a high-profile case. Someone with LeWinter's odd connections could likely have gotten some real ones as easy as fake ones - or fakes that no one could really tell were not real. The whole episode has too many things that don't sound 'right' about it. Did someone send LeWinter to do this, or is he rogue? All very strange...along with his other 'exploits'.

[Carsten Wiethoff]

The whole episode has too many things that don't sound 'right' about it. Did someone send LeWinter to do this, or is he rogue? All very strange...along with is other 'exploits'.

Exactly. Nothing in LeWinters Biography sounds 'right'. And still, the more you look, the more you find him. Everywhere. In a [bad] book about 9/11 (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/39385165...d_i=301128)
LeWinter allegedly claims to have met Osama bin Laden after September 11, 2001. In this case I tend to believe that the author thought that a little LeWinter reference would boost sales and that the whole thing is fictitious. :rofl:hock:

[Anthony Thorne]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet in this thread but Richard Cottrell's massive new book on Gladio is now available (very cheaply) on Amazon, and it's a book that's possibly deserving of its own thread once others have obtained their own copies and digested the contents. Cottrell makes use of materials that have come to light since the publication of Ganser's work, including publications and journals from Italy that delve deeper into the Gladio figures and their activities. He also makes strong arguments for the continuance of Gladio practices via false-flag actions in Europe up to as recently as this year. I highly recommend that DPF regulars add this book to their next Amazon order, and then let us know whether they like it as much as I do once they've read it.

http://www.amazon.com/Gladio-NATOs-Dagge...rds=gladio

[Carsten Wiethoff]

Thanks for the reference.
Another book worth reading about Gladio (mostly in Italy), but unfortunately only in German:
http://www.amazon.de/Terrorjahre-Die-dun...766&sr=1-1

[Magda Hassan]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet in this thread but Richard Cottrell's massive new book on Gladio is now available (very cheaply) on Amazon, and it's a book that's possibly deserving of its own thread once others have obtained their own copies and digested the contents. Cottrell makes use of materials that have come to light since the publication of Ganser's work, including publications and journals from Italy that delve deeper into the Gladio figures and their activities. He also makes strong arguments for the continuance of Gladio practices via false-flag actions in Europe up to as recently as this year. I highly recommend that DPF regulars add this book to their next Amazon order, and then let us know whether they like it as much as I do once they've read it.

http://www.amazon.com/Gladio-NATOs-Dagge...rds=gladio

I don't think it has Anthony. Thanks for the heads up. It looks a good read. Yet another one for the long list of required reading.

[Carsten Wiethoff]

Another fascinating complex into which Oswald LeWinter implicates himself is the Portuguese coup against Salazar in 1974.
And I never heard before of a portuguese angle of the October Surprise.

Can anyone confirm or deny that the event described below took place or not?

OSWALD LeWINTER ADDRESSES PORTUGAL'S PARLIAMENT
ON THE OCTOBER SURPRISE'

IMPLICATES KISSINGER IN MURDER OF PRIME MINISTER AND ILLEGAL ARMS TO IRAN DEAL
By Rui Amaral do Brito ©7/26/02

Retired American Major General and former senior CIA officer, Dr. Oswald LeWinter, 71, who has been living in exile near Lisbon since his release from an Austrian prison, where he served two of a four year sentence resulting from a sting operation run against him by the CIA and FBI with the connivance of Harrods millionaire, Mohamed Al Fayed, spoke before the National Assembly Wednesday, July 24th on the subject of Portugal's part in the infamous and illegal "October Surprise", which is still officially denied by the U.S. Congress.

The ailing LeWinter, author of two best selling volumes in Portuguese, "Desmantelar A America" and "Democracia E Secretismo", received a standing ovation from the members of parliament following his talk and two-hour question period, parts of which were carried live on Channel 2. LeWinter is well-known in
government circles in Portugal for his role as one of three senior CIA officers who came to Portugal in 1974 to help in the planning of the bloodless coup that toppled the fascist Salazar-Caetano dictatorship and helped extricate Portugal from its unwinnable colonial wars in Africa.

In his speech, LeWinter presented strong evidence that the illegal October Surprise' arms for hostages deal struck in Paris meetings between George Bush, the elder, William Casey (later CIA director) and representatives of the Khomeini government on October 19th 1980, resulted in covert arms shipments from the port of Setubal, made on or about December 1st, 1980, to Iran against the expressed prohibition of the Portuguese government.

LeWinter told the assembled legislators investigating the murder of Prime Minister Dr. Francisco
Sa Carneiro and hi Minister of Defense, Adelino Amaro da Costa, by an airplane bomb on December 4th, 1980, that on the 15th of November 1980, following the successful election of the Reagan-Bush team as President and Vice-President of the U.S.A., Henry Kissinger arrived in Portugal for talks with Dr. Sa Carneiro but was unsuccessful in securing his assent to the shipment of arms from NATO stores on the U.S. base in the Azores to Iran from a Portuguese port.

The weapons, relabeled as Farm Machinery were shipped nevertheless with the help of two members of the military named by LeWinter, Army Marshall Costa Gomes, who was President of the Republic from 1974-1976, and Admiral Pinheiro de Azevedo, who had been Prime Minister in 1975. Both officers, according to
LeWinter, provided covert aid to Kissinger's local agents in making the secret shipments. LeWinter also told the lawmakers that when the Minister of Defense learned about the shipments he planned to go to the Security Council of the U.N. to report this violation of Portuguese sovereignty. On December 4th 1980, both
men, Sa Carneiro and Amaro da Costa, together with their wives, pilots and Sa Carneiro's chief of cabinet, were in a private plane that had taken off from Camarate when it exploded, killing all the occupants. No one was ever charged with the murders. LeWinter also presented proof that the administration that followed the tragedy, Kissinger friend and fellow Bilderberg steering committee member, Francisco Pinto Balsemao, allowed uncounted shipments of arms to Iran and the Contras through Portugal.