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America's Mexican Border Wars
#11
Kind of like 'same ole; same ole...but different hats. The MO is the same and we as a government have done nothing but throw money at it.... the weapons they (cartels) have are mostly from our own military stock piles..... but the American people are not suppose to know that....... this Mexico thing here on the Border with El Paso has been ongoing for over three years now.... the media is just now getting into it... only because they have been pushed into it because of all the murders.... for me its like I told you so... ha... Its gonna get worse before it gets better... just like the economy.... take care.
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#12
I found the below quotes particularly interesting:

Quote:The record shows Plumlee was involved in the Cuban conflict of 1957 through 1964, while connected to military and CIA intelligence operations. In the early fifties, he supplied Fidel Castro’s rebel forces in Cuba with arms and ammunition; There were similar sensitive reports indicating that the CIA had armed Castro to overthrow the Batista government. However, the Committee has not been able to confirm those reports.

(my underlining)

And

Quote:Millions of dollars, dirty drug money, was being routed through Panama by the cartel, some of it to be used to influence the upcoming presidential election.

(my underlining)

And

Quote:Plumlee testified under oath that there was close cooperation between Mexican and U.S. government personnel in drug smuggling (there is other evidence in later testimony from XXXXXX. which confirms sections of Plumlee's testimony. This defies comprehension, Plumlee described his undercover activities to this Committee, including the practice of the Mexican police and its military protecting drug traffickers, something that will be described in considerably more detail in later testimony.

(my underlining).

And (but also refer to item 2 above)

Quote:He also stated that these operations
were not CIA operations but rather under the direction of the White House, Pentagon and NSC personnel.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#13
Tosh Plumlee Wrote:Kind of like 'same ole; same ole...but different hats. The MO is the same and we as a government have done nothing but throw money at it.... the weapons they (cartels) have are mostly from our own military stock piles..... but the American people are not suppose to know that....... this Mexico thing here on the Border with El Paso has been ongoing for over three years now.... the media is just now getting into it... only because they have been pushed into it because of all the murders.... for me its like I told you so... ha... Its gonna get worse before it gets better... just like the economy.... take care.

I don't doubt a word you say, Tosh. Between the murders like clockwork in one place, and over in TJ the guy recently admitting he was paid to make corpses disappear by dissolving in acid and bases [paid piecework, apparently]...it is very ugly. But these are the thugs. The BIG fish are BIG businessmen, or even high in the governments [Mexico, US, Other] and wear expensive suits and gucci shoes and don't get their hands dirty...their 'troops' do that for them. They just count the money......

Some War on Drugs....maybe better worded as a War on drug users, and War for the Drug Cartels and their bankers/backers.
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#14
Thirty plus years fighting the "Drug War', the longest war in the history of the United States....and its not over yet.

History does repeat itself..... Many testified about illegal drug activites in the early 80's. BUT the information was withheld by many in Congress and the main stream media for political reasons:

Some of the testimony, as to drug running and U.S. weapons going to the Cartel, can be found locked within the beltway of Washington DC, as far back as 1980:
(note some of the military grade weapons of the Contra area have now been found (2009) in the Mexico cartel's hands south of El Paso... ATF report of Nov 2009.

Example Congressional Record Reference as to 'Mockingbird" (alive and well in 2009)

also:
Iran-Contra and Mockingbird examples with introduction by H. Michael Sweeney, proparanoid.com
Document by Julian Holmes
No copyright - Public Domain
Permissions not required

"...The very lengthy (25 pages typwritten) document below is actually a letter to the Washington Post by Julian C. Holmes, in which he takes the Post to task for decades of disinformation - typically in the form of combating what the Post likes to describe as 'conspiracy theory' which, in the end, turns out to be conspiracy fact. ...

....
..... investigation by a task force of 13 congressmen headed by Lee Hamilton (D-IN). who had chaired the House of Representatives Iran-Contra Committee. Hamilton has named as chief team counsel Larry Barcella, a lawyer who represented BCCI when the Bank was indicted in 1988 (*11). (which led to failure of the Savings and Loan banks of the late 80's; Neal Bush and friends were found guilty of Fraud)

"... Like the Washington Post, Hamilton had not shown interest in pursuing the U.S. arms-for-drugs operation (*12). He had accepted Oliver North's lies,and as Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee he derailed House Resolution 485 which had asked President Reagan to answer questions about Contra support activities of government officials and others (*13).

After CIA operative John Hull (from Hamilton's home state). was charged in Costa Rica with "international drug trafficking and hostile acts against the nation's security", Hamilton and 18 fellow members of Congress tried to intimidate Costa Rican President Oscar Arias Sanchez into handling Hull's case "in a manner that will not complicate U.S.-Costa Rican relations" (*14). The Post did not report the Hamilton letter or the Costa Rican response that declared Hull's case to be "in as good hands as our 100 year old uninterrupted democracy can provide to all citizens" (*15).
Though the Post does its best to guide our thinking away from conspiracy theories, it is difficult to avoid the fact that so much wrongdoing involves government or corporate conspiracies:
In its COINTELPRO operation, the FBI used disinformation, forgery, surveillance, false arrests, and violence to illegally harass U.S.citizens in the 60's (*16).
The CIA's Operation MONGOOSE illegally sabotaged Cuba by "destroying crops, brutalizing citizens, destabilizing the society, and conspiring with the Mafia to assassinate Fidel Castro and other leaders" (*17).

xxx

notes: 13b. Report of the Congressional Committees Investigating the Iran-Contra Affair, Senate Report No. 100-216, House Report No. 100-433, November 1987, p.139-141.
14a. Letter to His Excellency Oscar Arias Sanchez, President of the Republic of Costa Rica; from Members of the U.S. Congress David Dreier, Lee Hamilton, Dave McCurdy, Dan Burton, Mary Rose Oakar, Jim Bunning, Frank McCloskey, Cass Ballenger, Peter Kostmayer, Jim Bates, Douglas Bosco, James Inhofe, Thomas Foglietta, Rod Chandler, Ike Skelton, Howard Wolpe, Gary Ackerman, Robert Lagomarsino, and Bob McEwen; January 26, 1989.
14b. Peter Brennan, "Costa Rica Considers Seeking Contra Backer in U.S. Indiana Native Wanted on Murder Charge in 1984 Bomb Attack in Nicaragua", WashingtonPost, February 1, 1990.
14c. "Costa Rica Seeks Extradition of Indiana Farmer", Scripps-Howard News Service,April 25, 1991.
15. Press Release from the Costa Rican Embassy, Washington DC, On the Case of the Imprisonment of Costa Rican Citizen John Hull", February 6, 1989.
16. Brian Glick, War at Home, Boston: South End Press, 1989.
17. John Stockwell, The Praetorian Guard The U.S. Role in the New World Order, Boston: South End Press, 1991, p.121.

"...In a FOIA suit-- and after twelve years of stalling --the CIA released documentation, in 2002, although very quitely, that John Hull was a contract operative for the CIA and had received $10,000 a month for the use of his ranch and landing strip in violation of the "Boland Amendment", from 1980 through 1986; and too, to ride herd on the citizens of Cost Rica and report to the CIA, CR station ... Mark G Tanner (0c21) his findings... Sealed Congressional Testimony declassified Feb 2002 Congressional Record
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#15
Massive infections cannot be treated successfully with minimal doses of antibiotics.

Even if the patient survives, vital organs may be damaged beyond repair.

Failure to remove those organs will prove fatal to the patient.

The lifeblood of America is poisoned, and Barack Obama is a baby aspirin.

The vital organs of the American body politic have been damaged so terribly that repair may not be possible.

It may be time to move the capitol westward and start over.
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#16
Guns for Drugs


March 6,2009

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – A dozen Mexican soldiers were arrested on suspicion of working with the violent Gulf Cartel, the Mexican army said on Thursday, a blow to President Felipe Calderon's military-backed campaign against drug gangs.
The troops are accused of collaborating with four municipal policemen in the central state of Aguascalientes who provided protection for Gulf cartel capos, the army said in a statement.
The arrests come as Calderon sent thousands more troops to the violent border city of Ciudad Juarez in an attempt to curb spiraling drug violence that killed more than 6,000 people last year.
Calderon deployed the army to fight organized crime since taking office in 2006 partly because soldiers have traditionally been seen as less corrupt than police.
But several recent high-profile arrests -- including a presidential guardsmen who allegedly received $100,000 a month to track Calderon for drug traffickers -- reveal infiltration in the highest levels of Mexico's security forces.
The Gulf cartel is fighting a turf war for control of smuggling routes with its main rival the Sinaloa federation, led by Mexico's most wanted man Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman.
The Gulf cartel's feared hitmen known as the Zetas, infamous for torturing and beheading their enemies, were founded by a group of military deserters.
(Reporting by Mica Rosenberg; Editing by Bill Trott)
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#17
.... enclosed is additional information that may be of future use, in view of the Mexican border war down here in NM and Mexico. In order to protect myself I need to get as much documented information out there ASP.

DEA Field Reports, Baldwin-Berliz 1990 additional background information 1990;to above post:

http://toshplumlee.info/pdf/DEAfiles.pdf

note; I was one of three undercover contract pilots who flew C-130's into the Caro ranch (El Digado). "Alverz", a friend and fellow pilot, was the UC pilot who had taken DEA agent Ki Ki Camaranda into this place before they were both captured, tortured and killed.

This was known-- in some circles at the time---, as 'The Mexico CIA Thing"/ I changed clothes and rested at this ranch many times in a three year time span and droped of CIA de-coding devices as well as guns and US Military hardware to the factions within the Mexican army and the DFS (Mexican Federal) and reported this information back to DEA HQ (Phonix AZ. aka "AMSOG " American Military Special Operations Group of theTri-State Drug Task Force; ref; Sargent Ed Salem and Harry Hawkins, my assigned UC contacts of the time. (reference: Phoenix Org. Crime Unit, (used as a 'cut-out' by ATF and DEA)

This highly secret unit, was the State of Arizona's Tri-State Drug Task Force chaired by then Gov Bruce Babbit. (this was an Undercover operation launched by the DEA and ATF as far back as 1978) This was also known as "The War on Drugs, or The Drug War". Some of these units and pilots were also associated with MI out of the special operations group (before Ollie North) of the Pentagon. This was a few years before the Iran-Contra. and the Boland Act.
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#18
For those who might be interested, Celle Castillo and Tosh Plumlee will be featured as guest speakers on the Mike Levine radio program, Expert Whitness, on Monday, March 09, 09... check website for additional information, time, and background information.

http://www.expertwitnessradio.org/ (on website)

or in NY radio:

WBAI
99.5 FM
New York City
Monday 5-6 p.m.
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#19
Tosh Plumlee Wrote:For those who might be interested, Celle Castillo and Tosh Plumlee will be featured as guest speakers on the Mike Levine radio program, Expert Whitness, on Monday, March 09, 09... check website for additional information, time, and background information.

http://www.expertwitnessradio.org/

....that would be Eastern Standard Time, and as an archived show afterwards.....at WBAI, New York radio extaordinaire.

Good deal Tosh....looking forward to it!.....
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#20
Thanks Tosh, will be sure to check it out.

Great timing, I was just telling an old friend about you yesterday. He's not a CT and can't handle the idea that our government was ever in the drug trade. So I sent this link to him too, as well as a few select pages from a google search of you.
Dawn
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