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Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City
Tom:

You mean Osborne and Bowen were two different people?

I thought the FBI concluded they were one person, Bowen used Osborne as an alias.
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As I understood it, Osborne used Bowen's name as an alias yet there indeed was a real Bowen.

Yet obviously if he died in 1962, there were not two of them during the WCR investigation.

Osborne/Bowen was a con man, from what I knew, so changing his identity or dates related would be to hide himself in plain sight.

I'm not sure of course... what I do know is that this man contradicts McFarland and the Aussie girls when he said there were no other "English speaking" people on that bus, that the man next to him with a zippered bag was not Oswald.

The WCR only uses the name OSBORNE, yet all the evidence says BOWEN... If he was "connected" to the FBI/CIA then why contradict the other witnesses who put him on the bus he needs to be on?

This the CIA playing games with the FBI?
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right.....
R. Hunter
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So he used the alias of a man who was passed away in 1962?

And the FBI took months to figure that out?
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March 11, 1964 FBI report which becomes CE2195: http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j...E_2195.pdf

Investigation disclosed LEE HARVEY OSWALD made a trip on Fleche Roja Bus leaving Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, 9/26/63 and arrived Mexico City, Mexico, 9/27/63 . OSWALD reportedly sat beside an elderly white male on this bus trip . The elderly white male has been identified by other English speaking passengers that were on the bus as ALBERT OSBORNE who is also known as JOHN HOWARD BOWEN. ALBERT OSBORNE was interviewed 1/7/64 at which time he described JOHN HOWARD BOWEN as an acquaintance but said he had no way of communicating with BOWEN. He was interviewed as BOWEN on 2/8 and 1/7/64 at which times he denied being identical to OSBORNE, but said he was acquainted with OSBORNE, and furnished considerable information regarding OSBOPNE and himself. On 3/3/64 OSBORNE was again interviewed at which time he admitted that he is also known as JOHN HOWARD BOWEN, having used that name since soon after World War I . During latter 3 interviews, OSBORNE admitted making a trip from Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, to Mexico City, Mexico, on September 26-27, 1963, but does not identify photographs of LEE HARVEY OSWALD as person he sat beside on trip .
He states he sat beside a young men that appeared to be Mexican or Puerto Rican and claims he, OSBORNE, was only English speaking passenger on bus . OSBORNE is reputed and claims to be a missionary in Mexico for many years and he receives financial assistance from churches and individuals throughout the United States for this work . OSBORNE has not furnished any detailed Information as to his movements and/or activities, claiming he is unable to supply such date . OSBORNE is 75 years of age, born in England, reportedly served in the British Army and migrated to the United States in 1914 . Thereafter, he claim he has lived in Washington, D. C. and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, served in the Canadian Army during World War II, returned to the United States and has traveled throughout the United States and Mexico, being employed as an itinerant rug cleaner, gardener, boys' camp operator, and minister . States he is not a naturalized citizen of the United States .

Informant advised that investigation discloses BOWEN departed Mexico City, October 1, 1963, on Flecha Roja bus, bound for Nuevo Laredo . Mexican Immigration records reflect BOWEN departed Mexico, at Nuevo Laredo, on October 2, 1963, but no information concerning his home address was available.


To be honest Jim, I was not concerned with the who and why of Bowen/Osborne beyond his involvement in the travel as described by the FBI. In one respect he is described as a 75-80 year old man from England traveling with a companion... (based on the McF's having two travelers and the line in space 18 matching line 16)

Remember though this is Flecha Rojas while the McF's and the Aussie's are on a Del Norte bus... Flecha leaves Monterrey at 3:30pm yet only leaves Nuevo Laredo at 2pm. Not possible to cover that much ground in a bus... about 135 miles at 40mph... and make the Monterrey Flecha bus...

I'd have to revisit it as it appears the WCR using OSBORNE as the passenger's name was to keep the BOWEN name out of things.. All three of these names had to have been added to this manifest...


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Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right.....
R. Hunter
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Jim DiEugenio Wrote:So he used the alias of a man who was passed away in 1962?

And the FBI took months to figure that out?

No, Jim, neither the FBI nor anyone else ever figured out that the real Bowen died in 1962. I discovered it last year, through the initial lead of the birthdate, address, and wife's name on the 1918 draft record.
The FBI reported that agents went to "newspaper morgues" in Delaware County, PA, which was where the municipality of Chester was located and the BUagents reported finding nothing related to the ID
leads Osborne had provided as he still insisted he was Bowen.

In a gesture of fairness to the FBI, they made the mistake of assuming the Bowen they were looking for had died in the jurisdiction they were searching for him in. He had not, but just under two years before he
had been buried in a local Delaware County, PA and cemetery. They also could have contacted his brother's widow, Edna. She was local and she was alive in 1964 and Bowen's death cert. confirms she was named Bowen..... It might have been nice to have found out in 1964 that the real Bowen had a D.O.B. change after 1918 and by Jan., 1962, and used that info to attempt to determine if Osborne had the cooperation and
possibly other support of the real Bowen, and maybe even why that was so, or whether Osborne was influencing Bowen via intimidation.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...d%20morgue
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The bottomline is that the real Bowen knew, according to his 1917 military draft record, that his D.O.B. was Jan. 14, 1880, but he or his brother's wife who claimed his body in Hamlet, NC in January, 1962 and
brought it back to Chester, PA to inter it next to his wife who had died in 1934, knew or were "influenced" to make up a fictitious D.O.B., at least 20 months before Osborne took his bus ride.

Quote:http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/two-mi...ent-745031

Tom Scully April 8, 2015 at 6:43 pm
A recap, with more documentation.:
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=135
FBI conducted inquiries, John Howard Bowen, d.o.b. Oct. 14, 1887, at Chester, PA between 20 Dec., 1963 and 7 Jan., 1964. School records, credit bureau, newspaper morgue, coroner/death records all yield no traces.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=125
Feb. 8, 1964, FBI interviews Bowen again, he relates being raised by his grandmother, Sarah Hall, (actually the mother-in-law of the real John Howard Bowen). http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=127 Also on Feb. 8, Bowen provides Oct. 14, 1880 d.o.b. and his parents' names, James A Bown and Edith Montgomery. http://jfk.education/images/Bowen1879MarriageJun29s.jpg
Pennsylvania church record document the marriage in June, 1879, of a Chester, PA couple with identical names as imposter Bowen had related to FBI. http://jfk.education/images/Bowen14Oct1880.jpg The real Bowen was baptized in 1897 at age 16, born Oct. 14, 1880
, and again on 1918 Draft Registration doc. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...lPageId=16
As of March 3, 1964, imposter Bowen had not admitted he was Osbourne, and FBI apparantly making inquires of all John Howard Bowens "born around 1900." ….. The FBI seems not to have gone back to Chester, PA after interviewing Bowen on Feb. 8, 1964, to search with the 1880 d.o.b. and Bowen parents names. The mystery as to why, at the time of his Jan., 1962 death, the real Bowen's age was almost three years older than he had stated his age to be in 1897 and 1918, or why the 1878 birth year was etched into his gravestone. The FBI should have searched at Chester, PA again after that Feb. 8, interview, they should have discovered the real Bowen's Jan., 1962 burial in a local cemetery, and maybe some of this mystery would be solved. Usually the imposter crafts the deceptions, the victim of an imposter rarely changes his long established d.o.b.


http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j...e_2195.pdf

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from ancestry.com :

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Tom Scully Wrote:Barnes reported what was officially unknowable, thus his report to the FBI was buried. AJ Weberman pointed out that the FBI claimed they checked the public library and credit bureau and could not find Barnes in Coral Gables. Did you notice Barnes's name is misspelled in at least one of the newspaper articles I post on his role at the ESSO Havana refinery? Probably not misspelled by accident.

You're using Osborne as a source? Do you have any idea who Osborne was? I do, and yet I do not. The real Osborne changed his own date of birth, in 1917, it had matched the one the fake Osborne gave the FBI.

John Howard Bowen's Sept., 1918 Military Draft Registration, images "b" and "a" :
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FBI reported in CE 2443:
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http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j..._0301a.htm
.....but furnished him with a card reflecting the
following data :
Name : JOHN HOWARD BOWEN
Born : January 14, 1880
Father : JAMES A, BOWEN
Mother : EDITH MONTGOMERY
Place of Birth : Chester, Pennsylvania
File Number : D-869-1880
Filed : March 6, 1956

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http://newspaperarchive.com/us/pennsylva...-18/page-5
Chester Times Newspaper Archive: May 18, [B]1915
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http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?pag...d=32875265
1885 - 1934 Fannie Hall Bowen
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http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?pag...d=32875262
1878 - 1962 John Howard Bowen
(No Social Security record found)
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGYJ-Y18
Name: John Howard Bowen
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 31 Jan 1962
Event Place: Hamlet, Richmond, North Carolina
Birth Year: 1878
Burial Date: 04 Feb 1962

Burial Place: Chester, Pennsylvania
Cemetery: Lawncroft Cemetery
Residence Place: Hamlet, Richmond, N.C.
Address: 3 Main Street
Gender: Male
Age: 84
Marital Status: Widowed
Race (Original): White
Occupation: Clerk-Hotel
Birth Date: 04 Jan 1878
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Father's Name: James Bowen
Mother's Name: Edith Montgomery
Spouse's Name: Fannie Mae Hall


I have two questions.
What could the circumstances have been that resulted in the real John Howard Bowen's changed d.o.b. from the
date he put on his 1918 draft registration, January 14, 1880, which happened to be the same d.o.b., at the same place, Chester, PA, as the birthdate and place furnished by the John Howard Bowen to the FBI in Feb, 1964, to the birthdate on John Howard Bowen's January 31, 1962 Richmond County, NC death certificate, d.o.b. January 4, 1878?

Alfred Osborne gave his address, according to the FBI, as the same address as the YMCA in Montreal.
The real J. Howard Bowen.worked for the YMCA until at least 1927.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ymc...et&tbm=bks
books.google.com/books?id=qoQTAAAAIAAJ
1927 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
President, W. E. Blair General Secretary, Elmer D. Yost Memhership, Russell M. Schriner Physical, Walter A. Carnes Boys, Edwin D. Wiener Hamlet, R. R. President, L. D. Hushands General Secretary, J. Howard Bowen Assistant,

The US Census of Richmond County, NC, shows John Bowen, age 60, a widowed hotel clerk.
And, in 1961, the year before he died.:

Full text of "Hill's Hamlet (Richmond County, N.C.) City ...
archive.org/.../hillshamletrichm1961hill/hillshamletrich...
Internet Archive
This is the first Hill Directory of Hamlet and is completely standardized according to ...... Tel 582-2081 Bo wen J Howard elk Terminal Hotel r3 Main

OURHAMLET.ORG View topic - Terminal Hotel in Hamlet NC

The growth of the YMCA was spurred by a demand for lodging by railroad workers. Bowen was actually employed by the Pennsylvania Railroad YMCA. IN the age before jetliner travel, the small town of Hamlet, NC was one of the busiest freight and passenger rail junctions in the eastern U.S. With only
a pop. of 6,000 the passenger rail terminal in Hamlet was recenlty reopened, despite the small population and the diminished routes of the Amtrak national passenger railroad system.
Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet,_Nor...nformation
.........
Hamlet is at the junction of two major CSX rail lines, one running north towards Washington D.C., and the Northeast as well as south towards Florida, and the other running east towards Wilmington, North Carolina, and west towards Atlanta, Georgia and Birmingham, Alabama. It has been cited as the prime spot in North Carolina for train watchers.[SUP][6][/SUP]
The recently reopened Hamlet Passenger Station, served by Amtrak, sits downtown at the junction of the lines. ......

So , Hamlet once was an ideal places to quickly slip in and out of. Railroad employees received free
travel passes as an employment benefit. The imposter Bowen obviously knew some background.:


Quote:
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j..._0301a.htm
...his father's name was James A. Bowen, his moter was Emily Bowen, ....grandmother Sarah Hall,,

Emily Bowen was the real Bowen's stepmother, too young to likely be his mother. Sarah Hall was the
real Bowen's wife's mother.... The imposter tol the FBI he did not know his parents and lived with his
grandmother. The real Bowen was stiill living with father, step-mother and brother at age 20 in 1900.:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3SH-1H9

The movie, Billy Bathgate was filmed at the Terminal Hotel shortly before it was destroyed by fire in 1993. As in the example of William Whaley, how did an inaccurate date of birth come to find its way on the death record and on the gravestone of the real John Howard Bowen? ............



Bowen died in Jan., 1962, and his D.O.B. that had in 1918 matched what Osborne gave FBI, was changed.:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGYJ-Y18 http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?pag...d=32875262 Bowen was buried in same cemetery has his wife. FBI claimed unsuccessful Chester, PA. records/newspaper search. Bowen's brother's wife claimed his body.

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Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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Now I am really confused.

I recall from doing research on Osborne that his home in America was in Kentucky. At least during one of the JFK anniversaries, a Kentucky newspaper did a long profile on him.

How would he know Bowen then, enough to use his name as an alias. And keep on using it even after he was dead.

If I also recall, Osborne traveled to Canada and Europe and New Orleans before and after the assassination. He was clearly giving some kind of cover story to the FBI about who he was and what he was doing.

And with someone that suspicious, and that big a liar, the FBI never discovered that he was BSIng them and his alias was a dead man?

I have a hard time buying that one.
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Jim, most of the time, from about 1930 to 1964, Osbourne posed as Bowen, and Osbourne claimed he was Bowen
during his first three FBI interviews. He should have been charged similarly as Stephen Harris Landesberg was after
he claimed he was James F. Rizzuto to FBI, NYO. On the fourth interview, Osbourne finally confessed. You can see below that the FBI came up with his fingerprints take in Texas in the 1950's and compared them to his fingerprints taken in the early 1964 investigation and the fingerprints verified that he was impersonating Bowen in the 1950's and provided false support that they FBI was interviewing Bowen in early 1964, but they were not...... it was Osbourne and it always had been Osbourne, except for the life and locations of the real Bowen of PA and later of Hamlet, NC, dead on 31 Jan., 1962.

As Armstrong observed, and he is accurate for the most part, compared to what I have found.:
Quote:http://www.mindserpent.com/American_Hist...exCity.htm
...........On February 19, 1964 Reverend James Timmons told the FBI that Albert Osborne frequently visited Reverend Joe Amarine, Mission Secretary at the Southern Baptist Convention, in Alice, Texas. When interviewed by the FBI Timmons described Osborne as a mysterious person who acted mysteriously and secretively and to his knowledge had never attended any ministerial school. By now it is clear that the man under investigation had used the name Albert Osborne in Mexico and John Howard Bowen in the United States.
On February 22 the FBI contacted Jim Johns with the Southern Baptist Radio & Television in Fort Worth, publishers of "The Beam," a monthly religious publication. Johns advised that his organization mailed copies of "The Beam" to Mrs. John H. Bowen, 335 West Earle Street, Greenville, South Carolina, and Mrs. John Bowen, 75 Neron Place, New Orleans, Louisiana. There is no record the FBI interviewed either of these women.
On March 3, 1964 the man with dual identities was re-interviewed by FBI agents at Nashville, Tennessee. At first he claimed to be John H. Bowen, but later admitted his true name was Albert Alexander Osborne. He also admitted that he had been untruthful in three previous interviews and said it was because he became caught up in his own web of furnishing false information. He then told the agents that he adopted the name "John Bowen" because it sounded more Americanized than his English name of Albert Osborne. He failed to tell the agents he had a birth certificate in the name of John Bowen or that he had used this name since the early 1940's.
He continued to insist the man who sat next to him on the Flecha Roja bus to Mexico City was a young Mexican or Spanish-appearing person who spoke no English. He also said that after the bus stopped at Sabinas Hidalgo, the young man took a seat at the rear of the bus and slept.
Osborne's statements about Oswald's appearance and his refusal to admit that he talked a length with Oswald were contradicted by Dr. and Mrs. McFarland, Pamela Mumford, and Patricia Winston. The Bureau, however, did not question Osborne further. For unexplained reasons they suddenly discontinued their investigation of Bowen/Osborne after March of 1964.
Two years later, on August 29, 1966, John Howard Bowen advised Reverend Lyman Erickson of the Christian Serviceman's Center, at 212 N. Alamo in San Antonio, Texas, that he was very ill as the result of uremic poisoning (food poisoning). He was admitted to the Medical Arts Hospital where he died two days later, on August 31, 1966.[18] Bowen/Osborne's death, and the FBI's incomplete investigation, left the following questions unanswered:

Â¥ What happened to John Howard Bowen, the man born in Chester, PA on January 14, 1880 ?

Â¥ Why did Albert Osborne continue to insist there were no English speaking people on the bus to Mexico City?
Â¥ Why did he continually describe Oswald as a Puerto Rican or Mexican-looking man?
Â¥ Why was Albert Osborne not charged with giving false information to the FBI?

NOTE: Protestant missionaries, funded in part by US intelligence, have been living and working with native peoples in Latin America since the 1930's. Indications that Osborne/Bowen was connected to US intelligence are numerous:
Â¥ "Reverend" Osborne (Bowen) sitting next to Oswald on the bus in September 1963
Â¥ "Reverend" Osborne (Bowen) returning to the US at Laredo the day before Oswald
Â¥ Concealing his visit to New Orleans in October 1963 from the FBI
Â¥ Concealing his visit to Europe during the assassination of President Kennedy
Â¥ Using dual identities
Â¥ Applying for a new passport, when his current passport was only 4 months old
Â¥ Using American Express for mail forwarding
Â¥ Use of false addresses
Â¥ Unknown source of income which allowed him to travel worldwide
Â¥ Failure of the FBI to prosecute him for providing false information......

I proved that the Bowen that Osborne claimed he was, the son of a woman named Edith Montgomery Bowen of
Chester, PA, (and that info prompted the FBI to search newspaper morgues in and records of the coroner of Delaware County, PA and report they found nothing...) was born in Chester, PA on 14 Jan., 1880, but died in Hamlet, NC in Jan., 1962, with a revised birth date of 4 Jan., 1878, and 1878 displays on his headstone.
The Hamlet, NC Bowen's brother was dead before 1962 and the death certificated displays his sister-in-law
Mrs. Edna Bowen, 306 E. 22nd St., Chester, PA, claiming his body. We know she buried Bowen next to his wife in Delaware County, PA, and that the sister-in-law was listed locally in the place the FBI went looking for Bowen in Dec., 1963, Jan., 1964. Census and directories at ancestry.com support that imposter Bowen lived in the Knoxville, Tenn. area in the 1930's and 1940's and the REAL Bowen lived in Hamlet, NC during that same time period.

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[TD="class: unveiled_value"]Edna Bowen[/TD]
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[TD="class: unveiled_value"]Female[/TD]
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[TD="class: unveiled_label"]Residence Year:[/TD]
[TD="class: unveiled_value"]1956[/TD]
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[TD="class: unveiled_label"]Street Address:[/TD]
[TD="class: unveiled_value"]306 E 22d[/TD]
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[TD="class: unveiled_label"]Residence Place:[/TD]
[TD="class: unveiled_value"]Chester, Pennsylvania, USA[/TD]
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[TD="class: unveiled_value"]Chester, Pennsylvania, City Directory, 1956[/TD]
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[TD="class: unveiled_label"]http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/19185996/[/TD]
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[TD="class: unveiled_label"]May 5, 1969 Delaware County Daily Times[/TD]
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[TD="class: unveiled_value"]Funeral arrangements will be · - '-announced by Ihe Nacreili Funeral ·-. Home. BOWEN, EDNA · ! " ' · - (Nee) Nuliell on May 3, 1959, ' ..wife of the late Alfred V. Bowen, ; formerly of 304 E. 22nd S t . , :;yL*Chesler. rjV ; Relatives and friends are invil- v';;ed 1o attend the funeral Wednes- V.'iAday 2 p.m. from The Imschweiler'!., Brower Funeral Home, 1600 Edg. jmont Ave., Chester, Pa. Inter- ??fment Chester Rural[/TD]
[/TR]
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And she is listed in Chester Rural cemetery: http://www.oldchesterpa.com/crc/secx_list.html

All of the following is available here.:
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j...e_2195.pdf
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Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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Authorities are concerned about maintaining confidence in the confidentiality of US Census records to encourage
US residents to cooperate with the Census Bureau's efforts to extract reliable household names, locations, and other
data. They are also reluctant to disclose investigative sources and methods.

A thorough FBI investigation of Osbourne / Bowen would have included the matching of the dates and location of birth and the names of parents Bowen provided to the FBI while still attempting to maintain the ruse that he was Bowen and not Osbourne. Using the 1880 and 1900 census records (national 1890 records were destroyed in a fire at the archive, except for a very small portion of date of a couple of US states), the FBI would have obtained the same leads and verification that I obtained and then built upon. I have no idea if they could have checked WWI military draft records.

This is an example of the census records search capabilities in the early 1940's, described in unrelated testimony sourced from the maryferrell.org archive. Ordinary US residents are barred from access to US census records less than 70 years old, and similar privacy concerns were the excuse for originally withholding the Warren Commission records until 2038.:

http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docI...D%20bureau

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Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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Thanks Tom. I meant Tennessee not Kentucky about Osborne.

The FBI did not come close to uncovering the truth about this guy.
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Tom Scully Wrote:
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:So he used the alias of a man who was passed away in 1962?

And the FBI took months to figure that out?

No, Jim, neither the FBI nor anyone else ever figured out that the real Bowen died in 1962. I discovered it last year, through the initial lead of the birthdate, address, and wife's name on the 1918 draft record.
The FBI reported that agents went to "newspaper morgues" in Delaware County, PA, which was where the municipality of Chester was located and the BUagents reported finding nothing related to the ID
leads Osborne had provided as he still insisted he was Bowen.

In a gesture of fairness to the FBI, they made the mistake of assuming the Bowen they were looking for had died in the jurisdiction they were searching for him in. He had not, but just under two years before he
had been buried in a local Delaware County, PA and cemetery. They also could have contacted his brother's widow, Edna. She was local and she was alive in 1964 and Bowen's death cert. confirms she was named Bowen..... It might have been nice to have found out in 1964 that the real Bowen had a D.O.B. change after 1918 and by Jan., 1962, and used that info to attempt to determine if Osborne had the cooperation and
possibly other support of the real Bowen, and maybe even why that was so, or whether Osborne was influencing Bowen via intimidation.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...d%20morgue
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The bottomline is that the real Bowen knew, according to his 1917 military draft record, that his D.O.B. was Jan. 14, 1880, but he or his brother's wife who claimed his body in Hamlet, NC in January, 1962 and
brought it back to Chester, PA to inter it next to his wife who had died in 1934, knew or were "influenced" to make up a fictitious D.O.B., at least 20 months before Osborne took his bus ride.

Quote:http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/two-mi...ent-745031

Tom Scully April 8, 2015 at 6:43 pm
A recap, with more documentation.:
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=135
FBI conducted inquiries, John Howard Bowen, d.o.b. Oct. 14, 1887, at Chester, PA between 20 Dec., 1963 and 7 Jan., 1964. School records, credit bureau, newspaper morgue, coroner/death records all yield no traces.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=125
Feb. 8, 1964, FBI interviews Bowen again, he relates being raised by his grandmother, Sarah Hall, (actually the mother-in-law of the real John Howard Bowen). http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=127 Also on Feb. 8, Bowen provides Oct. 14, 1880 d.o.b. and his parents' names, James A Bown and Edith Montgomery. http://jfk.education/images/Bowen1879MarriageJun29s.jpg
Pennsylvania church record document the marriage in June, 1879, of a Chester, PA couple with identical names as imposter Bowen had related to FBI. http://jfk.education/images/Bowen14Oct1880.jpg The real Bowen was baptized in 1897 at age 16, born Oct. 14, 1880
, and again on 1918 Draft Registration doc. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...lPageId=16
As of March 3, 1964, imposter Bowen had not admitted he was Osbourne, and FBI apparantly making inquires of all John Howard Bowens "born around 1900." ….. The FBI seems not to have gone back to Chester, PA after interviewing Bowen on Feb. 8, 1964, to search with the 1880 d.o.b. and Bowen parents names. The mystery as to why, at the time of his Jan., 1962 death, the real Bowen's age was almost three years older than he had stated his age to be in 1897 and 1918, or why the 1878 birth year was etched into his gravestone. The FBI should have searched at Chester, PA again after that Feb. 8, interview, they should have discovered the real Bowen's Jan., 1962 burial in a local cemetery, and maybe some of this mystery would be solved. Usually the imposter crafts the deceptions, the victim of an imposter rarely changes his long established d.o.b.


http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j...e_2195.pdf

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from ancestry.com :

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Tom Scully Wrote:Barnes reported what was officially unknowable, thus his report to the FBI was buried. AJ Weberman pointed out that the FBI claimed they checked the public library and credit bureau and could not find Barnes in Coral Gables. Did you notice Barnes's name is misspelled in at least one of the newspaper articles I post on his role at the ESSO Havana refinery? Probably not misspelled by accident.

You're using Osborne as a source? Do you have any idea who Osborne was? I do, and yet I do not. The real Osborne changed his own date of birth, in 1917, it had matched the one the fake Osborne gave the FBI.

John Howard Bowen's Sept., 1918 Military Draft Registration, images "b" and "a" :
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FBI reported in CE 2443:
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http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j..._0301a.htm
.....but furnished him with a card reflecting the
following data :
Name : JOHN HOWARD BOWEN
Born : January 14, 1880
Father : JAMES A, BOWEN
Mother : EDITH MONTGOMERY
Place of Birth : Chester, Pennsylvania
File Number : D-869-1880
Filed : March 6, 1956

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http://newspaperarchive.com/us/pennsylva...-18/page-5
Chester Times Newspaper Archive: May 18, [B]1915
- Page 5
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[/B]
http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?pag...d=32875265
1885 - 1934 Fannie Hall Bowen
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http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?pag...d=32875262
1878 - 1962 John Howard Bowen
(No Social Security record found)
Quote
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGYJ-Y18
Name: John Howard Bowen
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 31 Jan 1962
Event Place: Hamlet, Richmond, North Carolina
Birth Year: 1878
Burial Date: 04 Feb 1962

Burial Place: Chester, Pennsylvania
Cemetery: Lawncroft Cemetery
Residence Place: Hamlet, Richmond, N.C.
Address: 3 Main Street
Gender: Male
Age: 84
Marital Status: Widowed
Race (Original): White
Occupation: Clerk-Hotel
Birth Date: 04 Jan 1878
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Father's Name: James Bowen
Mother's Name: Edith Montgomery
Spouse's Name: Fannie Mae Hall


I have two questions.
What could the circumstances have been that resulted in the real John Howard Bowen's changed d.o.b. from the
date he put on his 1918 draft registration, January 14, 1880, which happened to be the same d.o.b., at the same place, Chester, PA, as the birthdate and place furnished by the John Howard Bowen to the FBI in Feb, 1964, to the birthdate on John Howard Bowen's January 31, 1962 Richmond County, NC death certificate, d.o.b. January 4, 1878?

Alfred Osborne gave his address, according to the FBI, as the same address as the YMCA in Montreal.
The real J. Howard Bowen.worked for the YMCA until at least 1927.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ymc...et&tbm=bks
books.google.com/books?id=qoQTAAAAIAAJ
1927 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
President, W. E. Blair General Secretary, Elmer D. Yost Memhership, Russell M. Schriner Physical, Walter A. Carnes Boys, Edwin D. Wiener Hamlet, R. R. President, L. D. Hushands General Secretary, J. Howard Bowen Assistant,

The US Census of Richmond County, NC, shows John Bowen, age 60, a widowed hotel clerk.
And, in 1961, the year before he died.:

Full text of "Hill's Hamlet (Richmond County, N.C.) City ...
archive.org/.../hillshamletrichm1961hill/hillshamletrich...
Internet Archive
This is the first Hill Directory of Hamlet and is completely standardized according to ...... Tel 582-2081 Bo wen J Howard elk Terminal Hotel r3 Main

OURHAMLET.ORG View topic - Terminal Hotel in Hamlet NC

The growth of the YMCA was spurred by a demand for lodging by railroad workers. Bowen was actually employed by the Pennsylvania Railroad YMCA. IN the age before jetliner travel, the small town of Hamlet, NC was one of the busiest freight and passenger rail junctions in the eastern U.S. With only
a pop. of 6,000 the passenger rail terminal in Hamlet was recenlty reopened, despite the small population and the diminished routes of the Amtrak national passenger railroad system.
Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet,_Nor...nformation
.........
Hamlet is at the junction of two major CSX rail lines, one running north towards Washington D.C., and the Northeast as well as south towards Florida, and the other running east towards Wilmington, North Carolina, and west towards Atlanta, Georgia and Birmingham, Alabama. It has been cited as the prime spot in North Carolina for train watchers.[SUP][6][/SUP]
The recently reopened Hamlet Passenger Station, served by Amtrak, sits downtown at the junction of the lines. ......

So , Hamlet once was an ideal places to quickly slip in and out of. Railroad employees received free
travel passes as an employment benefit. The imposter Bowen obviously knew some background.:


Quote:
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j..._0301a.htm
...his father's name was James A. Bowen, his moter was Emily Bowen, ....grandmother Sarah Hall,,

Emily Bowen was the real Bowen's stepmother, too young to likely be his mother. Sarah Hall was the
real Bowen's wife's mother.... The imposter tol the FBI he did not know his parents and lived with his
grandmother. The real Bowen was stiill living with father, step-mother and brother at age 20 in 1900.:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3SH-1H9

The movie, Billy Bathgate was filmed at the Terminal Hotel shortly before it was destroyed by fire in 1993. As in the example of William Whaley, how did an inaccurate date of birth come to find its way on the death record and on the gravestone of the real John Howard Bowen? ............



Bowen died in Jan., 1962, and his D.O.B. that had in 1918 matched what Osborne gave FBI, was changed.:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGYJ-Y18 http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?pag...d=32875262 Bowen was buried in same cemetery has his wife. FBI claimed unsuccessful Chester, PA. records/newspaper search. Bowen's brother's wife claimed his body.

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Tom:

Do you think that Edna Bowen did not know his correct date of birth? After so many years, she may have simply erred on the year he was born.

I checked with the county records office, they do not have birth records for 1880 but they did say that the church where he was born may have it.

John
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