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Dawn Meredith Wrote:Weirder yet is this:
Damn strange. You have to ask yourself why did WABC-TV Channel 7 "Eyewitness News" in New York City, opened last night with Anchorman Joe Torre saying "more on Hillary Clinton's Death."?
A slip of the tongue no doubt but a most odd one. There are many on fb who believe she is REALLY dead. That someone else did her Anderson Cooper interview last night. (Phone only). I listened to it. It is her. She is clearly very ill but no way she is dead. Wonder if Joe Torre still has a job???
Wishful thinking...
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:Weirder yet is this:
Damn strange. You have to ask yourself why did WABC-TV Channel 7 "Eyewitness News" in New York City, opened last night with Anchorman Joe Torre saying "more on Hillary Clinton's Death."?
A slip of the tongue no doubt but a most odd one. There are many on fb who believe she is REALLY dead. That someone else did her Anderson Cooper interview last night. (Phone only). I listened to it. It is her. She is clearly very ill but no way she is dead. Wonder if Joe Torre still has a job???
I expect that Jim Fetzer will be on the case as we speak.
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Anyway one slices it, this is one WEIRD Presidential election.......and seems it will only get weirder. The face to face debates will be, I think, startling - and there are certainly many more strange twists and turns in this and other as yet unknown angles. Fasten your seatbelt! :  :
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What Happens If a US Presidential Candidate Drops Out?
Sep 12, 2016 03:31 PM ET
http://www.seeker.com/what-happens-if-a-...n=carousel
Quote: The question has grown more relevant with Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's case of pneumonia. What happens if a candidate for the White House is forced to quit the race? Who steps up to fill their shoes? It's a question suddenly under the spotlight Monday as Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton battles a case of pneumonia that left her feeling so poorly she abruptly left a high-profile 9/11 memorial ceremony a day earlier. The former secretary of state, 68, was resting at home in Chappaqua, New York and cancelled appearances at events scheduled for Monday and Tuesday in California. "(Clinton) continues to feel better, but intends to remain at home today, following her doctor's recommendation to rest," campaign spokesman Nick Merrill said.
The US Constitution gives no guidance on instances when a candidate is unable to finish a political race. The procedures are found by delving into the internal regulations of the political parties. Article two, section seven of the Democratic Party bylaws states that "a special meeting to fill a vacancy on the National ticket shall be held on the call of the Chairperson." Republican Party regulations describe a similar procedure. At the Democratic Party gathering, the decision would be based on a majority vote by those present. But there's little precedence to guide their choices.
Although Clinton is expected to make a full recovery from what appears to be a routine illness, analysts have floated names of those who could take on the party mantle should she be forced to drop out. They are: Clinton running mate Tim Kaine, grassroots darling and Clinton's primary challenger Bernie Sanders, and current Vice President Joe Biden. David Lublin, a professor of government at American University, said Democratic party officials could choose anyone who meets the criteria to serve in the nation's highest office. "It would certainly would be uncharted territory," he said, adding that in his opinion, the most logical choice would be Kaine, followed by Sanders and the popular Biden.
Jeanne Zaino, a professor of political science at Iona College in New York, said the parties have kept the process "purposely vague because it gives them the opportunity to make the best decision, rather than tie their hands with some kind of process that would give them a nominee they will not be comfortable with." Both experts were doubtful that Clinton would exit the race over health concerns. "I don't expect Clinton to step down. She has an illness that is treatable," Lublin said. Added Zaino: "This has been such a crazy election season, I wouldn't been surprised if anything happened, but that is something I am not expecting at all unless her health is far worse than we have been led to believe."
Clinton's departure from the 9/11 ceremony at New York's Ground Zero on Sunday, captured on amateur video, showed her wobbling and being held up by members of her entourage as she got into a vehicle. The episode has fueled fresh speculation and conspiracy theories on the internet, already awash with unsubstantiated rumors Clinton may have a brain tumor, Parkinson's or dementia. The root of the persistent claims about Clinton's health lies in 2012, towards the end of her tenure as secretary of state. A stomach virus and dehydration prompted her to faint, causing what her doctor said was a concussion. Doctors said they found a blood clot on the brain.
Clinton later received the all-clear.
In recent US presidential history, there's been only one case of a candidate dropping out. Senator Thomas Eagleton, who was the running mate of Democratic nominee George McGovern in the 1972 race, was forced to quit after it was revealed that he suffered from depression.
We may yet feel the Bern...
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Drew Phipps Wrote:We may yet feel the Bern...
I hope so. The other 2 guys are appalling.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Drew Phipps Wrote:We may yet feel the Bern...
I hope so. The other 2 guys are appalling.
I agree 100% Maggie. But from a deep political standpoint, I can't imagine that happening.
No wait. I guess I could. Bernie gets elected and then sabotaged by various means.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Drew Phipps Wrote:We may yet feel the Bern...
I hope so. The other 2 guys are appalling.
What?! Something positive being allowed to happen in US Politics....I think it almost impossible, sadly.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:Anyway one slices it, this is one WEIRD Presidential election.......and seems it will only get weirder. The face to face debates will be, I think, startling - and there are certainly many more strange twists and turns in this and other as yet unknown angles. Fasten your seatbelt! ::
One of those twists being the Washington Post effectively backing the conspiracy theory cum utter rubbish that it's the Russians and Trump who poisoned Hilary.
The undead that now inhabits US journalism just plunged another wooden stake through its own heart - just to be sure.
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Conspiracy theories multiply as the time available to refute them passes unused
The section beginning at 11:13 is very compelling:
[video=youtube_share;Zr1IDQ2V1eM]http://youtu.be/Zr1IDQ2V1eM[/video]
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"
Joseph Fouche
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