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Technical Hurdles Suggest Extensive Z-Film Alteration Highly Unlikely
Was Winston Churchill a "kook"? He spoke of a "high cabal".

Gordon, you have an interesting observation

If someone wanted to name the "sponsors", I would recommend they look at the major share holders in the Federal Reserve. There you would find the richest and most powerful families in the country, and most of the world, who controlled the economic and the policy agendas at that time.

We can't go wrong following the money, can we?

I found Guido Giacomo Preparata, Conjuring Hitler, 2005, with the observation of the agency of director of Bank of England 1922-1944 Montagu Norman in conjunction with the "London clubs" (oh and how many German banks were there) in controlling, shaping events on the continent to keep it roiled, keep the world island separated and the sea powers powerful

Dulles & Dulles' clients were the enormously powerful who preferred to remain, like John Beresford Tipton, anonymous.

The CIA and the Pentagon are the sword and shield for this cabal

hence the Jack D Rippers, LeMays, Lemnitzers, Dulleses, and so on would be facilitators

Even that wild and crazy guy Henry Kissinger is a Mr. Fixit rather than a Meester Beeg

David, your Uncovering the Networks shows the guest list at the Trilateral Pool Party

but when I read above "at that time" it's just grinding of gears and fingernails on chalkboard--

The enormously powerful go on and on and on

not as those sneaky shapeshifting reptilians centuries-old in a pantheon of poobahs

but as members of the club responding to the engraved card passed with white glove bearing G. Reaper

only to be replaced by some initiate

The aforementioned mammajammas be bad no boubt adout it

but we're not privy to that High Cabal

Amateurs say Katzenbach cooked up the Commission, but Gibson says Rostow and Acheson

We could ask who told them

For my Federal Reserve Notes, Acheson greenlighted Kim Il-Sung's June 1950 wilding

just as April Glaspie was cued to give Saddam the "regional matter" nod August 1990

Thy Will Be Done shows the resource exploiters used the CIA and Green Berets, financial and diplomatic power, regime change and assassination and pacification of indigenous tribes

In Kruger, Great Heroin Coup, Nixon's DEA founding used CIA smugglers to crush Corsican competition

Scott has USG working AQ like a puppet

A spirit moves through the Kabuki actors but never resides in a mask or an actor

Settling on CIA or Pentagon or Mob or LBJ or Cubans or KGB or some other false sponsor only serves the interest of the sponsors

I like to think if we could get a mike close enough to David Rockefeller we'd extrapolate his drink order into a fairly good approximation of the cast

Is there anyone currently associated with CIA or the Pentagon who can operate a zipper let alone the creation of wealth out of the exploitation of seven billions

Is the current cardplaying placeholder in the White House the Moriarty of the global crime web

Scott's game board of LIFE has counters for oil, arms and drugs; Evica's game pieces are Sponsor, Facilitator, Mechanic; the dice and spinner are in the hands of someone who's got the CFR, the Kremlin, Beijing, and Riyadh on speeddial

Ike gave CD Jackson a job for winning the war and winning the Cold War; now comes Sunstein tasked by another top facilitator to Keep the Lid on

The Archives now has a wonderful stabilized Zapruder film--that's got no turn, no stopping, a bubble gum headwound, superhuman head turns and is choppier than a Teppanyaki chef


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Tracy Riddle Wrote:
Jim Hackett II Wrote:The 1% or in my view 1/2%.
As in the case of RFK, the spooks got him in service of the Empire including the Pentagon.

The RFK case is tricky. I think the plotters were trying to set up al Fatah (Palestinian militants) as the patsy group to be blamed, hence all these Arab types hanging around Sirhan, like the Polka Dot Dress girl. Then you have the presence of Khaiber Khan in the RFK camp, who has ties to the Shah of Iran's secret police. Now if you realize that in 1968 the Shah's SAVAK, the CIA, and Israel's Mossad were in bed having a menage a trois (with Angleton as the key person here), a clearer picture begins to form. But once again, other elements in the government stepped in and decided to blame the lone nut.

Tracy you make valid points. These issues of false flag patsies and the a**hole operatives of other than American origin in and around the murder of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, to me emphasize the global nature of the Secret Team and the Empire in general.
It is clear to me that the same conditions of so-called investigations of the FBI and Special Unit Senator were empowered to abort American Justice again as was done in the aftermath of RFK's brother's murder in Dallas.
The template of obfuscation worked well in Dallas, the LA rendition was only an Act 2 or 3 or 4 depending on your view of Malcom X and Martin King's murders and Cover Ups.
A curtain call for the stage presentation of BS for Justice blinded by the Right.

Subjective and opinion? Some. Complete manufacture of my paranoia and opinion, I don't think so.
When we know from Colby/Dennett's "Thy Will Be Done" the kinds of heartless powerful machinations were employed by the Rockefeller Families to try to control a whole damn continent and it's resources, it cannot be that long a stretch to see the Minions of Global Empires capable of cooperation across borders and cultures when the money and power are at stake.

Consider one A**hole Rockefeller sits in the Senate for W.Virginia, a state long raped by that exact Families interests for more than a century. But someone re-elects the jerk again and again.
That is obfuscation at a peak of arrogance, a certain arrogance.

Once thru the Looking Glass as Jim Garrison said (sort of), it changes one's view of politics, global politics and life in general.
That is the best gift I gleaned from opening my eyes.
The scales fell away, I owe much to the earlier researchers for this change.
Fletcher Prouty, Jim Garrison, Ms. Mae Brussells and John Judge, Sylvia Meagher, Penn Jones Jr. and others.
F.W.I.W.
'there's a man with a gun over there telling me I got to beware....."
Ok. I gotta be Aware to be able to beware.
A fine gift to an individual - knowledge and truth.
Akin to Gracie Slick's advice to 'Remember what the dormouse said.......Feed Your Head"!
Jim
Read not to contradict and confute;
nor to believe and take for granted;
nor to find talk and discourse;
but to weigh and consider.
FRANCIS BACON
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You know, the bankers and financial elite may indeed be behind everything, but I've always been reluctant to go there - partly because it seems to be a code for those who want to blame the Jews! for everything, and partly because there is so little direct evidence for it. "Ah, but don't you see how clever they are? They cover their tracks and blame the false sponsors!" Well, maybe, but if you start thinking like that pretty soon you're with David Icke blaming the Reptilians. I prefer to stick with what we can verify.

It's also a sign of right-wing demonology to see one global conspiracy run by one group (the Jews! the Freemasons! the Satanists! Trilateral/CFR!) who are somehow behind everything that happens. That's just lazy thinking, an excuse for not learning how the world actually works, and we see a lot of that on the Right.
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Charles Drago Wrote:
Jim Hackett II Wrote:As John Judge said "No matter who fired the bullets they came out of the Pentagon".

"The Pentagon" collectively as Facilitator? Absolutely.

As Sponsor? Not a chance.

The DOD operatives were only the capable assets chosen to be used.
Sponsors? Way above that pay-grade.

It's twoo, oh it's twoo ....
;-)
Read not to contradict and confute;
nor to believe and take for granted;
nor to find talk and discourse;
but to weigh and consider.
FRANCIS BACON
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Jim Hackett II Wrote:
Charles Drago Wrote:
Jim Hackett II Wrote:As John Judge said "No matter who fired the bullets they came out of the Pentagon".

"The Pentagon" collectively as Facilitator? Absolutely.

As Sponsor? Not a chance.

The DOD operatives were only the capable assets chosen to be used.
Sponsors? Way above that pay-grade.

It's twoo, oh it's twoo ....
;-)

I haven't seen Major General Willoughy's name mentioned.
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I mean really how stupid do they think I am?
POSE-ner, Blakey and the age old LIES.
They even use Lamarr Waldron. What a flippin' joke.

This crap is from 2009!
Retread of 1979's lies and covert re-endorsement of the HSCA obfuscation.

Most here have progressed beyond the 1979 LIES of Blakey long ago.
Most I know personally did so before the HSCA closed up shop so Blakey could write his TRASH BOOK

Me thinks the "Military Channel (Disney)" is afraid the reality of the DOD's involvement is being exposed.
The Sponsors would be displeased.

This seems to an attempt to weasel into the minds of the uninformed the SOS. (same old Sh/t)
Blame JFK for BOP, blame JFK for whatever facilitates the plan.

Sheesh, surrender your critical thinking skills is the goal of the MSM and Sunstein ops.
I can't think of any other reason for the continued promotion of BS eliminated long ago from reasonable examination of facts.

Sorry but the ST Empire is amorphous, international and does not fit into the predefined pigeon holes. CFR, Jews, Paperclip Nazis, Mob and on and on.
Not even combined can the proposed false sponsors have enough grease to complete the coup and cover up.
Could the Mob call off the National Press? For 5 decades?
Not likely.
Read not to contradict and confute;
nor to believe and take for granted;
nor to find talk and discourse;
but to weigh and consider.
FRANCIS BACON
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The Sponsorship level* of the assassination is, I believe, discussed in this video:

[video=youtube_share;pwwYuW2tzUo]http://youtu.be/pwwYuW2tzUo[/video]


The most relevant section is probably from about 54 minutes onward.



* That is, as far as I've been able to establish it.
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Not sure where to post this but for those interested, the long-absent and much-admired James Richards made a return on the "other" forum yesterday.
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R.K. Locke Wrote:Not sure where to post this but for those interested, the long-absent and much-admired James Richards made a return on the "other" forum yesterday.

So noted. Would that he would come to DPF.
Charles Drago
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum

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Jeff Carter Wrote:This unpopular opinion should, I suppose, be its own thread. Here is what I have to say on this topic:


5) other than a possible patch on back of JFK's head and perhaps something at Z313, there is no visible evidence or trace of any alteration work.


There is an important problem that you did not address, and which has received little quality attention from defenders of the authenticity of the Z-film. ITEK determined long ago that the extant Z-film shows no ejecta leaving the back of Kennedy's head. Yet the doctors at Parkland were witness to an avulsive wound with the bones sprung open and a great loss of brain in the back of the head. So we have an effect without a cause, if the present Z-film is authentic. In fact it gets worse. In the present film we see a great loss of brain from the front - right of the skull (and presumably a great loss of skull as well). It's right there in the film. But what did Jackie say? "from the front there was nothing..." . So then we have an cause (a bullet seeming blasting the right front of Kennedy's skull) without an effect (no such wounding was viewed not just by Jackie or Hill but also at Parkland). No matter how much one tries to defend the extant film, there is simply no answer to this conundrum other than film alteration.
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