08-05-2016, 05:57 PM
Tom Scully Wrote:Jim DiEugenio Wrote:So he used the alias of a man who was passed away in 1962?
And the FBI took months to figure that out?
No, Jim, neither the FBI nor anyone else ever figured out that the real Bowen died in 1962. I discovered it last year, through the initial lead of the birthdate, address, and wife's name on the 1918 draft record.
The FBI reported that agents went to "newspaper morgues" in Delaware County, PA, which was where the municipality of Chester was located and the BUagents reported finding nothing related to the ID
leads Osborne had provided as he still insisted he was Bowen.
In a gesture of fairness to the FBI, they made the mistake of assuming the Bowen they were looking for had died in the jurisdiction they were searching for him in. He had not, but just under two years before he
had been buried in a local Delaware County, PA and cemetery. They also could have contacted his brother's widow, Edna. She was local and she was alive in 1964 and Bowen's death cert. confirms she was named Bowen..... It might have been nice to have found out in 1964 that the real Bowen had a D.O.B. change after 1918 and by Jan., 1962, and used that info to attempt to determine if Osborne had the cooperation and
possibly other support of the real Bowen, and maybe even why that was so, or whether Osborne was influencing Bowen via intimidation.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...d%20morgue
The bottomline is that the real Bowen knew, according to his 1917 military draft record, that his D.O.B. was Jan. 14, 1880, but he or his brother's wife who claimed his body in Hamlet, NC in January, 1962 and
brought it back to Chester, PA to inter it next to his wife who had died in 1934, knew or were "influenced" to make up a fictitious D.O.B., at least 20 months before Osborne took his bus ride.
Quote:http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/two-mi...ent-745031
Tom Scully April 8, 2015 at 6:43 pm
A recap, with more documentation.:
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=135
FBI conducted inquiries, John Howard Bowen, d.o.b. Oct. 14, 1887, at Chester, PA between 20 Dec., 1963 and 7 Jan., 1964. School records, credit bureau, newspaper morgue, coroner/death records all yield no traces.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=125
Feb. 8, 1964, FBI interviews Bowen again, he relates being raised by his grandmother, Sarah Hall, (actually the mother-in-law of the real John Howard Bowen). http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=127 Also on Feb. 8, Bowen provides Oct. 14, 1880 d.o.b. and his parents' names, James A Bown and Edith Montgomery. http://jfk.education/images/Bowen1879MarriageJun29s.jpg
Pennsylvania church record document the marriage in June, 1879, of a Chester, PA couple with identical names as imposter Bowen had related to FBI. http://jfk.education/images/Bowen14Oct1880.jpg The real Bowen was baptized in 1897 at age 16, born Oct. 14, 1880
, and again on 1918 Draft Registration doc. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...lPageId=16
As of March 3, 1964, imposter Bowen had not admitted he was Osbourne, and FBI apparantly making inquires of all John Howard Bowens "born around 1900." ….. The FBI seems not to have gone back to Chester, PA after interviewing Bowen on Feb. 8, 1964, to search with the 1880 d.o.b. and Bowen parents names. The mystery as to why, at the time of his Jan., 1962 death, the real Bowen's age was almost three years older than he had stated his age to be in 1897 and 1918, or why the 1878 birth year was etched into his gravestone. The FBI should have searched at Chester, PA again after that Feb. 8, interview, they should have discovered the real Bowen's Jan., 1962 burial in a local cemetery, and maybe some of this mystery would be solved. Usually the imposter crafts the deceptions, the victim of an imposter rarely changes his long established d.o.b.
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j...e_2195.pdf
from ancestry.com :
Tom Scully Wrote:Barnes reported what was officially unknowable, thus his report to the FBI was buried. AJ Weberman pointed out that the FBI claimed they checked the public library and credit bureau and could not find Barnes in Coral Gables. Did you notice Barnes's name is misspelled in at least one of the newspaper articles I post on his role at the ESSO Havana refinery? Probably not misspelled by accident.
You're using Osborne as a source? Do you have any idea who Osborne was? I do, and yet I do not. The real Osborne changed his own date of birth, in 1917, it had matched the one the fake Osborne gave the FBI.
John Howard Bowen's Sept., 1918 Military Draft Registration, images "b" and "a" :
FBI reported in CE 2443:
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http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j..._0301a.htm
.....but furnished him with a card reflecting the
following data :
Name : JOHN HOWARD BOWEN
Born : January 14, 1880
Father : JAMES A, BOWEN
Mother : EDITH MONTGOMERY
Place of Birth : Chester, Pennsylvania
File Number : D-869-1880
Filed : March 6, 1956
http://newspaperarchive.com/us/pennsylva...-18/page-5
Chester Times Newspaper Archive: May 18, [B]1915 - Page 5
[/B]
http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?pag...d=32875265
1885 - 1934 Fannie Hall Bowen
http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?pag...d=32875262
1878 - 1962 John Howard Bowen
(No Social Security record found)
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGYJ-Y18
Name: John Howard Bowen
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 31 Jan 1962
Event Place: Hamlet, Richmond, North Carolina
Birth Year: 1878
Burial Date: 04 Feb 1962
Burial Place: Chester, Pennsylvania
Cemetery: Lawncroft Cemetery
Residence Place: Hamlet, Richmond, N.C.
Address: 3 Main Street
Gender: Male
Age: 84
Marital Status: Widowed
Race (Original): White
Occupation: Clerk-Hotel
Birth Date: 04 Jan 1878
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Father's Name: James Bowen
Mother's Name: Edith Montgomery
Spouse's Name: Fannie Mae Hall
I have two questions.
What could the circumstances have been that resulted in the real John Howard Bowen's changed d.o.b. from the
date he put on his 1918 draft registration, January 14, 1880, which happened to be the same d.o.b., at the same place, Chester, PA, as the birthdate and place furnished by the John Howard Bowen to the FBI in Feb, 1964, to the birthdate on John Howard Bowen's January 31, 1962 Richmond County, NC death certificate, d.o.b. January 4, 1878?
Alfred Osborne gave his address, according to the FBI, as the same address as the YMCA in Montreal.
The real J. Howard Bowen.worked for the YMCA until at least 1927.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ymc...et&tbm=bks
books.google.com/books?id=qoQTAAAAIAAJ
1927 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
President, W. E. Blair General Secretary, Elmer D. Yost Memhership, Russell M. Schriner Physical, Walter A. Carnes Boys, Edwin D. Wiener Hamlet, R. R. President, L. D. Hushands General Secretary, J. Howard Bowen Assistant,
The US Census of Richmond County, NC, shows John Bowen, age 60, a widowed hotel clerk.
And, in 1961, the year before he died.:
Full text of "Hill's Hamlet (Richmond County, N.C.) City ...
archive.org/.../hillshamletrichm1961hill/hillshamletrich...
Internet Archive
This is the first Hill Directory of Hamlet and is completely standardized according to ...... Tel 582-2081 Bo wen J Howard elk Terminal Hotel r3 Main
OURHAMLET.ORG View topic - Terminal Hotel in Hamlet NC
The growth of the YMCA was spurred by a demand for lodging by railroad workers. Bowen was actually employed by the Pennsylvania Railroad YMCA. IN the age before jetliner travel, the small town of Hamlet, NC was one of the busiest freight and passenger rail junctions in the eastern U.S. With only
a pop. of 6,000 the passenger rail terminal in Hamlet was recenlty reopened, despite the small population and the diminished routes of the Amtrak national passenger railroad system.
Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet,_Nor...nformation
.........
Hamlet is at the junction of two major CSX rail lines, one running north towards Washington D.C., and the Northeast as well as south towards Florida, and the other running east towards Wilmington, North Carolina, and west towards Atlanta, Georgia and Birmingham, Alabama. It has been cited as the prime spot in North Carolina for train watchers.[SUP][6][/SUP]
The recently reopened Hamlet Passenger Station, served by Amtrak, sits downtown at the junction of the lines. ......
So , Hamlet once was an ideal places to quickly slip in and out of. Railroad employees received free
travel passes as an employment benefit. The imposter Bowen obviously knew some background.:
Quote:http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j..._0301a.htm
...his father's name was James A. Bowen, his moter was Emily Bowen, ....grandmother Sarah Hall,,Emily Bowen was the real Bowen's stepmother, too young to likely be his mother. Sarah Hall was the
real Bowen's wife's mother.... The imposter tol the FBI he did not know his parents and lived with his
grandmother. The real Bowen was stiill living with father, step-mother and brother at age 20 in 1900.:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3SH-1H9
The movie, Billy Bathgate was filmed at the Terminal Hotel shortly before it was destroyed by fire in 1993. As in the example of William Whaley, how did an inaccurate date of birth come to find its way on the death record and on the gravestone of the real John Howard Bowen? ............
Bowen died in Jan., 1962, and his D.O.B. that had in 1918 matched what Osborne gave FBI, was changed.:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGYJ-Y18 http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?pag...d=32875262 Bowen was buried in same cemetery has his wife. FBI claimed unsuccessful Chester, PA. records/newspaper search. Bowen's brother's wife claimed his body.
Tom:
Do you think that Edna Bowen did not know his correct date of birth? After so many years, she may have simply erred on the year he was born.
I checked with the county records office, they do not have birth records for 1880 but they did say that the church where he was born may have it.
John