13-12-2009, 03:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 13-12-2009, 04:36 PM by John Bevilaqua.)
Helen Reyes Wrote:Mohrenschildt according to Estonian wikipedia (!) was a family from Estonia who received their coat of arms from Sweden's Queen Christina in 1650.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohrenschildt
googolly translate (emphases added):
Quote:Mohrenschildt
Source: Wikipedia
Mohrenschildtide Coat of Arms
Mohrenschilt the Baltic German aadlisuguvõsa
Mohrenschiltide family had at the beginning of Tallinn Alderman Johann Koch's sons, Johann and Bernhard, who aadeldati Swedish Queen Christina's 20th September 1650.
Johanni eldest son of the last male descendant died in 1715. year, but by leaving the younger branch of the family. Estonia rüütelkonnamatriklisse was Mohrenschildtide family until 1746.
Throughout the ages were family Nurme, Seidla, Tammik, Jõgisoo, Hatu, Valingu, Cross, Kumna, Haiba, Laitse, Laulasmaa, Leebiku, Kurisoo, Käesalu and many more mõisu.
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Members of the family
Berend Johann von Mohrenschildt, Cross, Hatu, Tammiku and Leebiku landlord
Mohrenschildt Berend Otto von (1718-1789), the Russian lieutenant, Estonia magistrate of the State Council, and the real
Reinhold von Mohrenschildt Gideon (1786-1827), landlord Kurisoo
Gustav von Mohrenschildt Reinhold (1787-1834), landlord Käesalu
Hugo Oskar von Mohrenschildt (1818-1899), landlord Kurisoo
Mohrenschildt Heinrich Alexander von (born 1831)
Sergei von Mohrenschildt (born 1870), the Minsk province and Russian military historian aadlimarssal
Dmitri von Mohrenschildt (Дмитрий Сергеевич фон Мореншильдт, 1902-2002), Stanford University professor, one of the CIA's Radio Free Europe, the founders of
George de Mohrenschildt (1911-1977), American naftageoloog, Lee Harvey Oswald a friend, (the English wiki: George de Mohrenschildt)
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References
Genealogisches Handbuch der Baltisches Ritterschaften, Teil 2, 1-2: Estland, Görlitz, 1930, lk.129-141 Fix. and Upgrade. lk.23-25
Otto von seems to be of preeminent importance in Googolly genealogical image searches for some reason. Dmitri would be Jackie O's classmate and George's brother. George would have attended one of those White Russian officer training schools, according to him in Poland, which means anywhere in the general vicinity of Poland, Belarus or Ukraine in the current configurations. Perhaps he lied about that though, we know there was one of these schools in Serbia, right? And George had a special connexion with Serbia.
As for his handlung, spezial oder etwas, of Oswald, his role seems to have been more of contact/babysitter rather than military komandantur. Keeping tabs, if you like. Reporting back when appropriate, in the event of an event worth noting. Dallas police intel unit notes Mohrenschildt always seemed to pop up in countries where coups were taking place, or, as the poor yokel who wrote those memoranda put it, in countries were "rebellions against America" were taking place.
Dmitri and Jackie O went to the same prep school or something, from what I remember. Probably a little like John and Al Gore, although Dmitri and Jackie struck up a more enduring friendship?
PS There's a blackamoor on the family crest, as they used to say. That's another possibility: Mohre not as carrot but as Moor.
PPS The Buckley connexion is significant. The family had more than just William F., there was a high-ranking State Department official who was somehow involved in the Pearl Harbor intrigues, I believe he was there when they kept the Japanese ambassador waiting for hours so that the official declaration of war from Tokyo came after the military srike in Hawaii (rather than the story of a single embassy employee struggling to decode it and type it up, while FDR and co. had control of the telegram cables and had made sure that the message was held until it was too late to decode it on time, although that migth have also happened). Another Buckley I believe was a presidential or vice-presidential candidate once, although that might be the same man at State.
What is your take (and anyone else's take for that matter) on these fairly recently uncovered details about the nexus of characters directly involved with the Coudert Brothers Law Firm who also appeared in ManCand by Condon and in the JFK Assn conundrum years later?
1) Robert J. Morris on the Rapp-Coudert Committees cutting his eye teeth for his later efforts with Joe McCarthy's Investigative Committee. Whittaker Chambers gives almost all the credit to Morris in the NY Times obit for the success of McCarthyism in fact.
2) Boris Brasol, who arranged the translation and distribution of The Protocols and was once on the Czar's secret police intelligence staff?
3) William F. Buckley, Jr. whose (circa 1965) failed NYC Mayoralty campaign was run by Frederick Rene Coudert?
4) Anastase Vonsiatsky who rode the Coudert Brothers White Russian Nazi Rat Line gravy train from a Paris Knights Hospitaller hospital bed right into Manhattan? Georgie boy may have done the same thing as well and hundreds of others like minded White Russians too. Czar's Gold buys ticket to ride into US for Nazi SKOM-bags.
5) The role of the deM family with running the Baku oil fields in Russia whose corporate attorney was John McCloy at the time and George's interaction with the Nobel dynamite manufacturing and Nobel Prize awarding family. Nobleman ennobled by Nobel is just a fascinating concept.
One or more of the Couderts may also have been OSJ or the approx. equivalent.
By the way William F. Buckley, Sr., James "Hugh" Angleton and a young Charles Willoughby all rode in Pershing's Punitive Expedition against Pancho Villa along with Robert McCormick and many other Skull and Bonesmen with Nazi and Brahmin or Eugenic nascent predilections. McCormick was with the America First Committee with GLK Smith and much later the owner of the Chicago Tribune syndicate. And Villa's plus Cochise's (was it) skull and bones were allegedly swiped by "Tomb Raiders" and placed at the New Haven Skull and Bones in Room 322. An insider testified that a young George Bush led the tomb raid against Cochise and documented it in writing at Skull and Bones or The Scroll and Key society.
Later the following persons ended up as chief strategists on the American Security Council and some of them started on The America First Committee: Col. Robert McCormick (AFC), Gen. Robert Wood (AFC), Robert J. Morris (Bircher), James Angleton (Birch attitudes), Ray S. Cline (WACL), Charles Willoughby (Bircher). And so far Angleton, Cline, Morris and Willoughby are found in ManCand by Condon. Damn Condon was good. Damn good.
Maybe John Roy Carlson (Armen Dernounian) was his source? Maybe Wilbur Baldinger or Wes McCuen from UAW's Group Research? Maybe someone from SMOM or SKOM helped him out? Anybody have any ideas here? How did he know? Who told him? Who was his intel source? Gotta find out.
How and when did Richard Condon know to include all of these clowns in the orbit of The Coudert Brothers, the White Russian Fascists, the Eugenicists, the Birchers and these Yalie Skull and Bones types in his novel anyway?
My hat is off to you Richard Condon. Your accomplishments in identifying the Dirty Dozen were so much more massive and complex, then my efforts to slowly and painstakingly extract their identities which were hidden deep in the inner recesses of your anagrams, word plays, associations, inferences and dropped hints. Thanks again Richard Condon. Certainly you did this to avoid repercussions and because lynchpin Bircher Dr. Revilo Oliver was some sort of civilian cryptographer for the O.S.S. during WW II.
David, I would assume you probably buy into my Birchers as lynchpins thesis more than most, correct? Can you buy into the Ray S. Cline as John Yerkes Iselin analogy to any extent? I think Helen is crossing over to our side on the Bircher theme, and maybe on the ManCand themes slowly but surely. What say you Helen Reyes? (an obviousLY deliberately contorted anagram for Rey Lenses, Eh? or The King's Glasses, huh?. <grin>)
What is your vocation Helen, just curious? Your grasp of this material is just amazing and the same goes for David and Jan. :alberteinstein: :adore: :congrats: Love those little smilies... Kudoes to all of you.