14-12-2009, 06:55 PM
(This post was last modified: 14-12-2009, 06:59 PM by John Bevilaqua.)
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:In the last year I had a lunch with a member of the central committee of the communist party of one of the many axis of evil nations who shall remain nameless for now but he said that when he was last in the Kremlin archives several years ago, a place he has been to often, the place was crawling with Americans and most of them probably not there for the archiving. He doubted there would be too much left of any significance. I think I agree with him.
I concur with this. I remember reading that during the early Yeltsin years a team of US intel/military types spent a small fortune to purchase the right to weed out the KGB files of all sorts of important information. These guys have war games for war games and are years ahead of the curve.
As a small footnote, I know - from, ahem, direct experience - that it in the late 1990s it was possible to bribe archive staff to allow original material to be removed from Russian state archives.
My own view is that They have gutted or destroyed any "smoking guns" that They know of in official archives. However, there may still be "smoking guns" that They are unaware of and have not "cleansed" yet.
Remember "Dr" Sid Gottlieb destroyed all the MK-ULTRA papers he could find. But the old fool forgot about a few boxes of receipts. And these receipts to sub-contractors and their ilk provided the hard documentation necessary for John Marks' Search for the Manchurian Candidate.
Now, that book is arguably a limited hangout. However, without the discovery and publication of those receipts, which Gottlieb forgot to shred, there would still, to this day, quite probably be no public knowledge or admission of the crimes of MK-ULTRA whatsoever.
Dr Ewen Cameron would still be a "world class psychiatrist" instead of a CIA butcher.
So, archive research is a time-intensive and frustrating task. A task deliberately frustrated by Them. But every now and then a genuine nugget glistens in the shit They've left behind...
But wouldn't they just hide any materials which incriminated THEM or the KGB or any other USSR based agencies? Admittedly Vladimir Nikitin in "The Ultras in the USA" available from http://www.abebooks.com for about $20.00 said he had consulted with KGB officials to find out what they knew about who really killed JFK and all they could come up with was someone named Rich Loschli (his very poor attempt at a phonetic spelling) who was obviously Richard Lauchli of The Minutemen and I do not even think they were smart enough to associate him with The Minutemen. But his whole point in this book published in Moscow in 1971 (using some really thin rice paper or the equivalent, just a classic collector's book) was that "The Ultras in the USA" did it, that they then tried to blame it on the KGB or the Communists in general and that the KGB was glad that total all out war was not declared based on some of the John Birchers who pointed the finger at the KGB and the Communists. I remember it as only a fair translation, filled with bad grammar and "sum verry, verry bad spellungs", but still a good book to own and read. I have ordered the cheapest copy but there are a half dozen left for around $20.00 from American book stores including shipping. Maybe 1-2 in Great Britain, too. But it, get it and read it. It is the Moscow response to the finger pointing from the Right. They pointed their fingers right back at The Birchers, the KKK and several others among The Ultras in the USA. And rightly so. Get it fast.
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