15-12-2009, 06:22 PM
Helen Reyes Wrote:For the record (John can edit this out of his post, but that would be silly), first use was here:
John Bevilaqua Wrote:[LOL]Stop the wailing or you will get the cryptonym of HR/CryOps instead of HR/PsyOps. <grin> See if you can pick out the dozen OSJs in the article just for fun then I will link them back into ManCand.
Yep, you got it basically. Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews.
PsyOps are a slippery thing, open to a lot of definitions, from influencing opinion to deception to whatever. I have to admit that their complexity precludes my participation, you'd need a supercomputer to trace all the lines of influence involved nowadays, if you could even find the source of the influence. My epistemology has to function at the personal level, because I don't have a team working for me, and I am not part of a team. I have to look mainly at arguments and evidence, not the personalities offering them, and accept or reject on their own merits. I see how it would be possible to perceive deep divisions on this forum, and how it would seem possible to exploit them to sow dischord or dispersal, but if such a thing began to happen, I would have to assume someone on the forum struck a real nerve somewhere, to draw that kind of attention. It's interesting to speculate, but we should be careful not to say things that can't be unsaid. End of sermon.
And bad answer John, the correct answer to "Can I pass for CIA now?" should have been "Yes, you cant."
LOL. You are right about that quote on striking a nerve and drawing attention. In the past 10-15 years I have been deliberately sought out and then approached several times by those from "the opposition" not posting on this forum or any other ones that I frequent, so these comments should be good to go here and they need to be documented for the public record. Two younger members of Art Jones' America First neo-Nazi group out of Chicago, pictured in Old Nazis, the New Right and the Republican Party at a protest rally run by Art Jones. (only known as Mike and Greg) A friend of Barb LaMonica sketched one of them on her notepad and she confirmed with almost 100% certainty that my identification of him in the picture was correct. Later the grandson of Gerald Lyman Kenneth Smith himself, who identified himself as Kenneth Smith from West Virginia befriended me in Dallas in 1993 or 1994 and then casually asked me: "Boy some of your stuff is really good. Where do you get all your information about the right wing anyway?" Being naturally suspicious, I refused to answer his questions and asked him to show me some identification which was at least credible. John Newman and one of his friends interviewed him in Dallas and determined that his trumped up cover story of alleged extensive inside information implicating the CIA was full of holes and B.S. He testified before the ARRB but was found to be lacking in credibility and his testimony was never officially published. To me he sounded two-sheets to the wind as if he were not playing with a full deck. In Washington, DC, maybe 1994 or 1995 two self-described anarchists confronted myself, my wife and my daughter at the Vietnam War Memorial after my presentation, and threatened me with retaliation against my family (in private) if I continued to pursue my investigative leads against the right wing and my confrontational attacks on a certain C.O.P.A. presenter who is now long since deceased. I immediately responded in kind and have not heard from either of them since. So you can see that there are some who just do not want their friends, relatives and associates to be subjected to such close scrutiny and for very good reasons, too. End of story.
Helen, I can not believe that I have intentionally offended you in any way, shape or form. If I have please respond to me with a PM describing exactly what I said or did to offend you or to cause such consternation to others who think I may have offended you. Hey if the Jay-Lo bubbles icon did not get to you, what else could possibly penetrate that kevlar-like exterior?