16-12-2009, 05:48 PM
(This post was last modified: 16-12-2009, 05:56 PM by John Bevilaqua.)
Helen Reyes Wrote:No offence taken, John. My Pavlovian respone to anyone hinting I might be an agent is to assume they are, but I'm suspending that programmed response because of the need for understanding, cross-subcultural communications and because what you're saying is fascinating. Please carry on!
Two side points:
1. What you mean by Regime Change might be something different from what I understand as Regime Change, but I would say chimpanzees invented it and Machiaveli just repackaged it.
2. G. Edward Griffin in The Creature from Jekyll Island has different ideas about the "true identity" of Big Daddy Warbucks, which is neither here nor there, and Griffin makes historical mistakes in that book about other things.
Here's the excerpt for consideration, page 18, Introduction:
Quote:THE REAL DADDY WARBUCKSOSS was definitely up to something in China, all the veterans of the Chinese stuff figure prominently later in CIA, but non sum dignus, et auribus errectus.
Paul Moritz Warburg was a leading member of the investment banking firm of M.M. Warburg & Company...
Serious problems with the attempt by whomever at a Warburg connection as Big Daddy Warbucks.
1) Wickliffe P. Draper was physically the "spitting image" of the Big Daddy Warbucks cartoon character. Bald pate with sidebar hair only, wire-rimmed glasses, 6'5" tall, worked in Military Intel Ops in India (Punjab), big game hunter, war hawk and war profiteer, had a close friend named "Annie" who was orphaned in the Revolution, but was not "Little" but rather a "Giant" with reddish-yellow hair and a bevvy of German Shepards who went "Arf!, Arf! .. on and on and on.
2) Warburg was Jewish, and was a little dapper man with a handlebar moustache, no glasses and looked NOTHING like Big Daddy Warbucks, had no friends named "Annie" who was always surrounded by his German Shepard guard dogs, had no one at all like Punjab and never worked in Intel Ops in India. Warbucks had no visible indication of being anything but a WASP and an elitist. Warburg was a banker and Warbucks was a businessman who thrived on conflicts, clashes, wars and wheeling and dealing.
Other than that he is right on the money...
Vonsiatsky and Draper were in the national newspapers almost every month in the 1930's and were very well known world travelers, rabble rousers, movers and shakers and raconteurs and trouble makers. They were also close to the du Ponts who fought the Nye Committees and Alger Hiss who was on that committee which sought to limit war profiteering. Draper later did in Alger Hiss just like he did in Sacco and Vanzetti. Draper tried to use Smedley Butler as his personal M.P. detachment and enforcer also in the 1930's to protect his Boston/United Fruit interests and that of his friends using the J.P. Morgan account. He enlisted in the British Army in World War I then later switched to the U.S. armed forces. He just loved Big Game Hunting, and war games including going after FDR and JFK.
What the heck is that Latin phrase? Yo hablo espanol.
Signing off soon for the holidays. Ho, ho, ho and a bottle of rum!
Google William Nelson Cromwell and Regime Change. Or go to his Wikipedia page. Cromwell invented modern day Regime Change and used it to dominate the first half of the 20th Century, then it was taken over by Dulles, Draper, Donovan and all the Boys From Brazil and the Queen of Hearts, too from ManCand and Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll or Louis Carroll. "Off with his head!", she said. And so it was done. Ray-ban lenses and all. <grin>