At last: Shickshinny Knights of Malta linked to the Draper/Vonsiatsky Condon ManCand crowds

[John Bevilaqua]

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/....php?t=305

Jensen said he first met Oswald on mess duty in Atsugi and later on a secret mission in the mountains of Taiwan during the height of the Cold War.

Well that just about wraps it up then. Ray S. Cline lived in the legendary "Pink Palace" in Taiwan, near the Ping Tung
base where Oswald's ship had docked as I recall. And that Pink Palace was high on a mountaintop, rather than high on a hill as I stated previously.

Wish I had moved to this Deep Politics site years ago. The anarchistic competitive sites had their chances to elaborate, enhance or extend or expound upon these leads and instead they chose to do little or nothing in this vein, much preferring to dissuade, discourage, distribute disinformation and debilitate, deflect, defer, denounce or deviate from these topics. Wonder why? I think I know. Their loss.

With respect to all, this doesn't wrap anything up yet.

I'm very keen to learn more of the "secret mission in the mountains of Taiwan during the height of the Cold War", but not having been able to read "Hawk" Jensen's book yet, I don't know quite what he's referring to.

If anybody has read Mr Jensen's book, or is able to contact him to ask him to discuss that incident here, I'd be delighted to learn more. As I'm sure we all would.

I only meant that this probably wraps up the issue about whether or not Oswald and his unit were ever in Ping Tung or Pintung as it is called by the Andersons in Inside the League or not. And as to the issue as to whether or not Ray S. Cline ("Johnny is Rey S. Kline") was involved in mind control research should also go into the category of having been settled and confirmed as closely as we might ever see it completed. And now Harlan "Hawk" Jensen seems to confirm that beyond the shadow of a doubt including the presence of both Hemming and White as perhaps comparable mind control trainees. And the Andersons in Inside the League plus Robert Richardson were my citations on the presence of Cline in Taiwan in the "Pink Palace." The last piece is a quite plausible logical inference, based on the fact that Jensen appears quite plausible regarding the facts leading to this logical inference. Now I might be a bit conflicted as to who had the larger International Intelligence Role in this whole JFK Conundrum, The Order of St. John of Lazarus, of Rhodes and Malta or The World Anti-Communist League? Well, since both Jesse Helms, Wickliffe Draper, Douglas Malcolm-Hamilton and the Hunt family plus Charles Willoughby were involved with ALL of these international intelligence gathering organizations with Armed Services and Military Extensions, totally across the board, it is probably a moot point, right?

OSJL of Lord Malcolm Douglas-Hamilton, Jesse Helms and the brothers Hunt, Willoughby and Wickliffe Draper plus the OSJ of Rhodes and Malta and Donovan, Dulles, Frawley, Jr. and the deceased Sullivan and the Graces, plus the ABN of Stetsko, Willoughby and Raikin, plus the Armed Services Committee of The Shickshinny Knights of Malta and Willoughby, Lemuel Shepard, Douglas-Hamilton, Corso and Domville and Draper's now confirmed lifelong correspondent Lt. Gen. Pedro A. del Valle and the World Anti-Communist League of Stetsko, Helms, Wickliffe Draper, Draper's Pioneer Fund grantee Dr. Roger Pearson, Ray S. Cline, and others seems to me to wrap this up and tie it up in a nice, neat Christmas Bow. Merry Christmas and to all a good night.

Gee looks like "Big Daddy Warbucks", Wickliffe Draper and Charles "My Little Fascist" Willoughby, "Little Orphan Annie" Vonsiatsky and Robert J. Morris (Maurice Bishop) were just about everywhere. Everywhere as Shapechangers, World Changers, Chameleons and Fascist promulgators.

And it also looks like Richard Condon got it all right on the money, too, by 1958-59. Just amazing stuff.

And Jan, I already noted that I do not know the internal tecnnical and subtle details of Pavlovian conditioning, from Chinese water torture, from complex Skinnerian techniques from "operant conditioning" from hynotic-voodoo techniques which is probably why I got a B- in Soc Sci 8, sophomore year at Harvard, which included several guest lectures and live lab demos by none other than B. F. Skinner during his last few years at Harvard. He was working on things like the "just noticeable difference" JND theories at the time, but did not discuss much, at least in our intro to Psych classes, about his pigeon pecking experiments or about how he trained pigeons to be able to notice downed fliers floating in a vast ocean and then inform the pilot of their precise locations. I was hoping you could fill us in on the subtleties and nuances of various training methods.

Funny anecdote... Once at a Dallas ASK conference, I talked to a couple perhaps named something like the Kryzewskis or whatever who were selling a book about Oswald and Mind Control. The gave me the name and phone nuber from their little address book, of an expert on the topic of mind control and mind programming, named Colin Ross who was from Texas at that time I think. When I saw Dick Russell talking to someone at lunch I took the opportunity to give him the name and the phone number of Dr. Colin Ross. Dick's eyes just bugged out as he read the note and his interviewee stirred uncomfortably. He handed the note to this unnamed guy, who looked at it and said: "Yep, that is my phone number all right!" I said: "Huh?" Dick said, John, meet Colin Ross. Colin this is John.

I was floored and dumbfounded. End of anecdote.