TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady?

[Albert Doyle]

Albert likes to fantasize. Like Doyle, Lamson makes many pointless posts. My not having gotten around to posting a response on a matter that Ralph has answered many times is NOT a "refusal to answer". That is a gross misrepresentation--but I certainly understand that, when the evidence is against you, FAKE IT!

I'm glad I got you out in the open Dr Fetzer. You are a charlatan who needs to be discredited once and for all. The evasive, unnecessarily combative, and petty nature of your replies is indicative. We've seen Ralph's "answers", they're rubbish. For you to endorse them as a whole destroys your credibility. Your response above is meaningless vs what I wrote and only proves what you were attempting to refute. Only a charlatan would attempt to get away with that answer.

You are doing a great job of that. We have no good reason to believe that the shadow is being caused by Doorway Man's chin. But the shadow is not the crucial consideration.

Yes we do and, yes, it is.

The reasons are clearly stated and you have forfeited your credibility by being so publicly unable to answer them in any honest or intelligent way. The patch of skin you are ignoring that is clearly visible in the Marsh scan scientifically proves the V-neck is being caused by the chin shadow (as does you patent inability to either recognize or answer it). You can't answer the basic argument that if this wasn't shadow then why isn't the flesh color, seen on all other unshadowed areas in Altgens, visible on Oswald's neck? As Lamson asked and you conspicuously couldn't answer, why is it black? Lamson asked this and you categorically evaded it. The answer, for those with competent abilities, is that the over-contrast in Altgens pointed-out by Unger created an exaggeration of dark areas. This exaggeration caused the alleged "V-neck". Another example can be seen in the color film frame shot of Lovelady on the side of the doorstep. His chin shadow is making a partial similar black shadow into his round T-shirt neck in that photo as well. The person shading their face with raised arms behind Doorway Man is also displaying this sharp over-contrast by the fact his face is completely obscured.


You sir are notorious.

Oswald tugged at this tee shirt; Lovelady did not.

I'm not familiar with the witnessing for Oswald's supposed shirt-tugging. Frankly it wouldn't shock me if it was another one of your pure fabrications. However, in any case, over on Lancer someone posted a film frame from the Dallas Police Station showing Oswald's T-shirt neck ripped in the back portion. This was obviously done during the scuffle at the Texas Theater. So what you attribute to Oswald's "shirt tugging" was most likely caused by the damage to Oswald's T-shirt causing it to droop down in front. Both you and Cinque expose your overt dishonesty by knowing this yet continuing with your bogus claims. That is the sign of dishonest character. To claim the "V-neck" is the product of Oswald's tugging habit, despite having evidence that it is most certainly caused by proven damage to his T-shirt, is despicable and the sign of dishonest intent. In the end both Lovelady and Oswald were proven to have round-necked T-shirts. In both cases you have terribly failed to show any convincing evidence to disprove the obvious explanations for what is seen.

It is far more probable that this is Oswald's shirt than Lovelady's.

Just plain WRONG. And all you have is Dr Cinque's crazy explanations for things he imagines he sees in photos that are too blurry to view what he is trying to display. Even worse, I proved yesterday that Groden's posed shot of Lovelady shows flappy loose sleeves on Lovelady's plaid shirt. You two keep insisting there's some irrefutable looseness to Doorway Man's shirt that distinguishes it from Lovelady's, but that's nonsense and Lovelady's open shirt while leaning over perfectly explains what is seen. This business all originated from Dr Cinque's fevered imagination trying to force Oswald's shirt on to Lovelady. It's apocryphal.

The shadow could reinforce the vee of the shirt, but not obfuscate a round one.

This is disproven by the fact the skin patch Dr Fetzer flagrantly dodges shows a transect of the round T-shirt neck through the black shadow area he suggests represents a perfect outline of the V-notch. The chin shadow is very much obfuscating and overlapping the round neck opening in Altgens. Fetzer is just plain dead wrong on this and incompetently unable to see what is plainly there.

I hope people notice Fetzer is now recognizing the chin shadow. Before he was endorsing Cinque's lunatic claim that the shadow over Raised Arms Man's face was forged onto the photo. Since he now recognizes the Doorway Man chin shadow he has no excuse to not recognize it on Raised Arms Man's face.

As Ralph Cinque has explained here again and again, ITS THE SHIRTS, NOT THE SHADOW. To focus on the shadow and not upon the shirts is a classic distraction.

You've quoted Dr Cinque in public. Good, you're doing all my work for me by destroying your own credibility.


Smart people with common sense would realize that a round-neck T-shirt could not be tugged-down to the degree of this alleged Altgens V-neck seen on Doorway Man. It would be mechanically restrained and pulled back in to round by the rear section behind the neck that prevented it from traveling down that far in front and, especially, laying there while Lovelady made the obvious craned contortion of leaning forward and to the left with his left arm across his body as seen in Altgens. You very simply can't get past this required mechanical necessity. The reason you see Oswald's T-shirt tugged into a pseudo-notch at the police station is because it was damaged by the police in the scuffle. Since this, and the buttons being ripped-off, obviously happened at the theater this means these features appeared AFTER the Altgens photo was taken. All we are seeing here is two quack forgery theorists trying to conflate the wide-open damaged appearance of Oswald's shirt at the police station with Lovelady's open shirt on the doorstep. Furthermore this ridiculous nonsense by Cinque of Oswald having some kind of special unique shirt "lapel" is just Oswald's reversed button strip that has been bent that way by the violence of his shirt being ripped-open at the theater - which occurred long after the Altgen's photo was taken. Anyone with even the most basic of detective smarts would realize this. They would also realize that this was when the buttons that caused Oswald's shirt to appear so loose were ripped-off as well.



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