24-02-2012, 07:40 AM
Gordon Gray Wrote:Greg Burnham Wrote:Gordon Gray Wrote:[quote=Greg Burnham]I've read and listened to accounts of the other film. They are not detailed enough IMO, to be evidence of a different film. There is no evidence of another camera in the same or similar psoition to Zapruder. Of course there could be and perhaps there is indeed another film, but a simpler explaination would be an unedited Z film. The people who have seen this describe three main differences. The car is seen turning on Elm, the car is seen comimng to a complete stop, and the two head shots seem separated. If these frames are rmoved you have essentially the Z film. As someone who has seen the other film, do you recall how it was framed at the momet of the head shots? How much of the car was in frame when you observed the full stop? I don't recall in your account, you being adamant that it was a different film.
Didn't you mean to say: "In my grossly uninformed opinion it is an unedited version of the Z-film?"-- How can you have an informed opinion about
what something actually is if you haven't even seen it?
I am not adamant, however, there are some differences that do seem to negate the possibility that it was the same unedited version of the film. For instance, in the extant Z-film the limo is framed extremely low in the view finder. In the film I saw the limo was not framed that way.
Quote:That is interesting. If the film was framed differently it would seem to be a different film. Was the entire limo in the frame?
Yes, it was.
Quote:In the Z film it is difficult to see whether the limo comes to a stop because you can't see the whole car in relation to the street. Were you able to see this clearly?
Yes.
Quote:Also were there two distinct reactions to the shots from front and behind, or were they almost simultaneous, seperated by a single frame as in the Z film?
I don't know. I do not recall two shots to the head, but that is not indicative of their presence or their absence. I was not impressed one way or the other.
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"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)