29-08-2013, 11:03 PM
Charles -
An excellent point about the limo stop.... after the showings that weekend - who outside the government/TIME-LIFE sees this as a FILM until 1975.
All that was needed were the frames with some crushed contrast, or a little painting over... with this understood, even the film Dino sees may not have been "original"
I've been reading a bit about the "hollysood" type set-ups the CIA and related intelligence agencies had available to it at that time.
To believe that Rochester was the only place that could do this kind of work MAY be a bit of an over statement...
We didn't know about Hawkeye... is it not possible there were technical facilities within DC that could accomplish the same things and are still not known?
From a technical basis what was needed was one of those Oxberry machines, someone who knew how to use it, and a roll of KII film.
While the painting should have involved 35mm enlargements - was that absolutley necessary? and based on the results, as I've posted, the job really was not all that good so that it MIGHT have been done within the 8mm format
exactly as Healy describes.
AT SOME POINT though, the film is shown and does NOT show the stopping of the limo or the debris from his head, or the motorcycle zooming forward or the correct movements of a human between 300 and 320.
Since the IS area does indeed match "close enough" from frame to frame, I am at a loss as to how 40 of 50 frames could be removed from an 18fps film and not see huge skips in the IS area...
It could only appear conitguous if the frames are removed to give the illusion of slowing down...
Chris....
THANK YOU THANK YOU...
It is fairly obvious now that a decent looking, complete film can be created as I described, from a 48fps original... it is even MORE possible that these 48fps frames are VERY FEW IN NUMBER within the original Zfilm
If, just saying, that 48fps was only used from the Sign (z207-z212 - something happened to the film at that point, right?) until just past the headshot(s) it could be less than 100 resulting frames from about 250 48fps frames taken. It may have been fewer than that given the few specific spots that needed "alteration".
Conally's "hand/hat movement" may also be the result of missing frames
We KNOW Greer's headturns must be
There's the falling man who's left leg whips under him
ALL of these within that 100 frame sequence.
DJ
An excellent point about the limo stop.... after the showings that weekend - who outside the government/TIME-LIFE sees this as a FILM until 1975.
All that was needed were the frames with some crushed contrast, or a little painting over... with this understood, even the film Dino sees may not have been "original"
I've been reading a bit about the "hollysood" type set-ups the CIA and related intelligence agencies had available to it at that time.
To believe that Rochester was the only place that could do this kind of work MAY be a bit of an over statement...
We didn't know about Hawkeye... is it not possible there were technical facilities within DC that could accomplish the same things and are still not known?
From a technical basis what was needed was one of those Oxberry machines, someone who knew how to use it, and a roll of KII film.
While the painting should have involved 35mm enlargements - was that absolutley necessary? and based on the results, as I've posted, the job really was not all that good so that it MIGHT have been done within the 8mm format
exactly as Healy describes.
AT SOME POINT though, the film is shown and does NOT show the stopping of the limo or the debris from his head, or the motorcycle zooming forward or the correct movements of a human between 300 and 320.
Since the IS area does indeed match "close enough" from frame to frame, I am at a loss as to how 40 of 50 frames could be removed from an 18fps film and not see huge skips in the IS area...
It could only appear conitguous if the frames are removed to give the illusion of slowing down...
Chris....
THANK YOU THANK YOU...
It is fairly obvious now that a decent looking, complete film can be created as I described, from a 48fps original... it is even MORE possible that these 48fps frames are VERY FEW IN NUMBER within the original Zfilm
If, just saying, that 48fps was only used from the Sign (z207-z212 - something happened to the film at that point, right?) until just past the headshot(s) it could be less than 100 resulting frames from about 250 48fps frames taken. It may have been fewer than that given the few specific spots that needed "alteration".
Conally's "hand/hat movement" may also be the result of missing frames
We KNOW Greer's headturns must be
There's the falling man who's left leg whips under him
ALL of these within that 100 frame sequence.
DJ
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter