18-09-2013, 02:32 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:I love this sentence! Captures it all.....
Quote:"Our president's murder in broad daylight on a public street fifty years ago, and the new government's refusal to bring his killers to justice, meant nothing less the end of our long experiment in democracy. We now live not in a democracy but in what more accurately can be termed a limited police state, and that is the ultimate legacy of the Coup of 1963."
"The ultimate legacy?
A "limited police state"? [emphasis added]
I think not.
Ask, for instance, the survivors of My Lai what they see as the "ultimate legacy" of JFK's murder.
In my opinion, Peter, the sentence you bring to our attention -- in particular, the phrase which I highlight -- narrows rather than broadens our perspective on the event, implicitly values American lives over others, and is most kindly appreciated as shallow rather than deep political analysis.
I don't know what the author meant, and perhaps he'll enlighten us. I took it to mean we have entered police state 'territory' and are progressing rather fast further into it.....i.e. it is an ongoing deterioration of democratic structures and replacements by neo-fascist and totalitarian ones. Yes, individual actions, operations, wars and such have been total in their police state or fascist nature....vestigial remnants of a sick, but once barely functional republic are disappearing FAST...and in modern times were greatly accelerated on 11/22/63 and again on 9/11/01 [and several smaller accelerations between and since]. IMO.
Reasonable, Peter.
But the fact remains, the author used the adjective "ultimate."
ul·ti·mate (lt-mt)
adj.
1. Being last in a series, process, or progression.
2.
a. Of the greatest possible size or significance; maximum: Has the ultimate diamond been found?
b. Representing or exhibiting the greatest possible development or sophistication: the ultimate bicycle.
c. Utmost; extreme: the ultimate insult.
The advent of a "limited police state" in the USA as the "ultimate legacy" of the JFK assassination?
Absolute nonsense -- in my constitutionally protected opinion, of course.
Charles Drago
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
-- Graham Greene
Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
-- Graham Greene