The LBJ Connection

[David Josephs]

On the very afternoon of the assassination, Curry, Fritz, Wade and Alexander are told NOT to proceed under the assumption of a Communist Conspiracy... NOT to proceed with anything about Cubans... and to focus on Oswald as the lone suspect. To DENY reports that the FBI interviewed Oswald in the weeks prior.... and all this by those in LBJ's administration

If LBJ was in on it, then one has to conclude the SPONSORS were not interested in CUBA at all. Nor were they interested in WWIII with Russia. Issues in Africa, SE Asia, Oil and the Fed seem TO ME more in line with the desires at the SPONSOR level... while the lower levels appear to be doing it out of much more altruistic motivation.

And until it ACTUALLY HAPPENS... (Tampa, Chicago) it just remained plans and talk....

WHEN it does happen in LBJ's back yard... the "gold ole LBJ persona" kicks in and he begins taking advantage of the situation immediately.

Prior to ratification of the 25th Amendment, the rules of succession to the
Presidency were Constitutionally vague. The Constitution did not specify whether
the Vice President would become President or Acting President if the President
were to die, resign, be removed from office or become disabled.

So technically and legally(?) there was no defined POTUS from 1pm until 2:15 or so when LBJ is sworn in...

Was LBJ concerned over a military coup? He certainly did nothing (nor did the rest of the government other than the supposed bombers sent to Cuba and recalled) to prepare the nation and military for the follow-thru of what would have been seen as a "communist" anything.... Was there even air protection accompanying AF-1 back to DC? Any planes escorting the returning cabinet plane?

I think it very possible that LBJ's desire to be President - and his being surrounded by minions who appear to be able to do ANYTHING to help their man Lyndon - Fred Korth, Cliff Carter et al most potentially would have been involved in the facilitation and mechanic levels....

but do you or anyone else believe that LBJ had the power to order/coerce LeMay, Anderson, Galloway, Burkley, Kenney, etc to do what they did at Bethesda?
There is little or no motivation for participating in the medical cover-up other than the fear that JFK was a traitor and communist... so,

WHY would these military men, who wanted more than anything to go after Cuba and Russia, AGREE (or be leveraged) to assist in making the evidence conclude only shots from behind
and from the 6th floor high and to the right behind the victim (his has to be the only autopsy EVER that explains the process of the killing as opposed to the actualy physical evidence).

I have to disagree and feel that like so many others, LBJ was leveraged into silence and cooperation via a number of very vulnerable spots in his armor... and reminded via the brazen and public display...

that if he didn't play along, it could happen to him as well.

LBJ may - most likely - have been aware... but that was not his style... he was all about backrooms, cheating and secrets... and I simply do not blieve he would allow Jackie to be in harm's way, or even close to it.
Nope, LBJ played his part in what I believe was indeed a military coup, aided by the Secret Service and covered-up by plan via the FBI/SS/CIA who become the first and biggest line of defense...

I think the SPONSORS planned to lay this at the feet of the FBI/CIA so that "WE the People" would feel a sense of success when we uncovered all this great dirt.
State, ONI, Mil Int, INS and Immigration files are the hardest to get and contain the most contrived files when some finally are released.

Think about how history changes if the Chicago attempt succeeded... would we be having the same LBJ concerns in IL as we do in TX ??

I agree with Charles Drago that the Chicago plot was always intended to be uncovered and thwarted. Are we really to believe, for example, that assassins engaged in the task of killing the sitting American President are likely to leave their rifles lying around in places where nosey rooming house ladies can find them? It doesn't seem at all likely to me.


LBJ was of course one of the key facilitators of the cover-up, but had very little (if anything) to do with the assassination itself. I think it is likely that he had some prior knowledge but we will probably never know for sure. It goes without saying that he was NOT one of the Sponsors.


Your question regarding the military is a good one. I don't see "the military" as the Sponsors of the crime, but it is certainly worth considering how they were made to tow the line in light of their bellicose intentions vis-à-vis Cuba and Russia. It is a complex issue and is not one that I currently have a totally satisfying answer for.

The problem I have with that line of thought about Chicago is the manner it was covered up by the SS... and the followup reports from FBI Chicago AFTER the assassination which all go out of their way to refocus Chicago squarely on Vallee.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...elPageId=2

WCD 47 has an awful lot of info on Vallee (and is only one of a few Chicago FBI reports) and even attempts to add the name OSWALD into the Chicago mix.

Additionally - the SS did all it could to squash Chicago info from getting out prior to 11/22. If this was to be uncovered wouldn't the response for the rest of Nov '63's trip be an INCREASE in protection...
That it was hushed up and then not given to the SS agents from the PRS as a warning of potential danger in Dallas is very telling. The SS is aware of NO THREATS IN DALLAS although both Chicago and Tampa encountered trouble and the SS-PRS knew that killers in one state NEVER travel to another.... ::laughingdog::




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I am curious as to why you feel that LeMay, Korth, Anderson, Taylor etc... could not be SPONSORS given that the CIA and FBI and DPD personnel ALL had served in the military... ALL understood chain of command and the power of the military to silence... that the CIA was only as successful as their MILITARY SUPPORT...... that the MILITARY set up the CIA/SS/FBI to take the fall since THEY didn't do it... Oswald as layer 1, CIA/SS/FBI as layer 2-500... players like ONI, DIA, NSA, NSC, MI and a host of other MILITARY INTELLIEGENCE AGENCIES, INS and STATE are the revolving MICC door.

I only say so since I firmly believe that the SPONSOR level of the world is in a position to take advantage of any way the wind blows while doing what they do to MAKE the wind blow in the directions they prefer.

I guess we can say that these SPONSORS set the ball in motion by having the MILITARY play the game of both (false)-SPONSOR and FACILITATOR... yet I still fail to see the distinction between the INDUSTRIAL and CONGRESSIONAL portions of the "Mil Ind Congr Complex" from the MILITARY ones... where and what do all these ex-military do for a living after they retire ??

If the JCS is not SPONSOR material... why not? I'd truly like to understand that distinction given this definition:
Thanks
DJ
SPONSORS -- Those with the authority andmotive to sanction the assassination and the connections to engage facilitatingagents and systems.