The truth and bare facts about the Bay of Pigs

[Scott Kaiser]

Jim,

Here are a few things you said that I would like to address, first you said, "The CIA knew this. Which is why they picked Playa Giron after Kennedy vetoed their first plan. The Cubans never got close to a beachhead since Castro knew they were coming and he had mortars, artillery, and tanks at the front within hours."

Permit me to make these corrections, the CIA did not pick Playa Giron after Kennedy vetoed their first plan, Kennedy picked it.

Than you say, "The Cubans never got close to a beachhead since Castro knew they were coming and he had mortars, artillery, and tanks at the front within hours."

What about the 1,100 men taken into custody? Were they just caught swimming in the ocean? As far as I know the only platoon of men that didn't advance was Nino Diaz's men, who all to this day thank him for not giving the order to advance because Nino saved lives that day. BTW... He also worked with my father, and I have met and talked with him too.

Castro should have called the NYT's thanking them for the leaked information which allowed Castro the time needed to move his force into place.

Than you asked, "do you talk to DeTorres?", you know from the many postings I've made in the past that DeTorres is also found in my father's little black book, I believe that I have at one time posted the page at the EF forum. And, to answer your question I did not know he was still alive.

The last person I located and found from my father's address book has been Rudy Junco, if DeTorres is still alive, I guess I have another person to hunt down when I return to Miami.

I also found Carlos Quiroga, you do know of him right?

Getting back to the BOP's before I'm side tracked. During the Cuban Missile Crisis in a cable found, Kennedy did nearly order an air strike to dismantle the Russian mid range missiles in Cuba, but rather than an air strike Kennedy took a different approach hoping to resolve the conflict with Russia by these peace talks you're talking about.

The so called peace talks with Castro didn't last long, and so, Kennedy went to Khrushchev where the two super powers needed to come together to avoid the conflict, Cuba, as a third world country did not have the same means Russia did if an all out war broke.

Jim, you also say, "There were no assassination attempts." I'm assuming that you mean the Kennedy brother's didn't dirty their hands in wanting Castro dead, however, Lisa Pease wrote an articular about a plot to assassinate Castro in Moa Cuba, and both Kennedy's were well aware of it, can you please explain that one?

The year was 1960-61 I believe, and Mr. Pujol was apart of that plot to assassinate Castro under the orders of David Atlee Phillips.

What about Ted Shackley? And, only the second largest CIA base station in the United States outside Langley JM/WAVE.

I suppose neither Kennedy brother's knew about that either right?

You are right about Kennedy calling off the air strikes that McBundy is apparently blamed for, but it didn't matter if the strikes were called off or not the CIA had no more planes in Nicaragua to send, both Bissell and Dulles informed Kennedy the CIA had a total of (16) planes to use against Castro's forces. Kennedy asked for them to scale back their number of planes so it didn't look as though the United States was involved, Kennedy just didn't want a war that would have enticed Russia willingly to war.

But, it didn't matter who called off the second air strikes simply because the CIA had lost (19) of their planes, did you get what I said? The CIA told Kennedy they had 16 to start, Kennedy wanted them to scale back their invasion to only 8 planes, but the CIA had lost 19 planes altogether, they, the CIA had no more planes left. Did you know that? Perhaps, the information remains in the documents we still seek, and are still sealed, but it helps to talk to those who were there and in charge of their daily operations.

So, I suppose if Kennedy was never involved with any assassination plots against Castro, than Kennedy was never involved with the Bay of Pigs either? Eh?

Forgive me for my fast typing and typo errors made, I've made the corrections in bold and italicized lettering so those corrections can be easily found.