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Nazi slaves of the haciendas: Hitler fanatics forced orphans to build new Fatherland in Amazon
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Charles Drago Wrote:Jan, et al,

I am devouring Farrell's books and related volumes.

As far as the Swastika's design replicating the counter-rotation that manifests the torsion effect, I wonder if the ancient symbol may have been minimally altered to hide its deepest meaning.

Could be all wet here, but bear with me:

Take the historic Swastika and ...

reverse the orientations of the horizontal mid-section's vertical elements so that the left vertical points downward and the right veritcle points upward.

Would this not more accurately symbolize counter-rotating elements?

Do you know of any such representations?

Or am I one too many Malbecs into the day?

Farrell is indeed mining incredibly important territory.

As we know, symbols, especially ancient and iconic symbols, have multiple meanings. Indeed, some seem particularly resonant in a certain space-time, and less so in other space-times. :bandit:

Why was a certain version of the swastika so sacred to Tibetan Buddhists? And to Hinduism, Mithraism and Jainism?

Swastikas were found in Khazestan (modern day Iran) more than 5000 years BC.

Quote:In Hinduism, the two symbols represent the two forms of the creator god Brahma: facing right it represents the evolution of the universe (Devanagari: प्रवृत्ति, Pravritti), facing left it represents the involution of the universe (Devanagari: निवृत्ति, Nivritti).

Quote:The swastika shape was used by some Native Americans. It has been found in excavations of Mississippian-era sites in the Ohio valley. It was widely used by many southwestern tribes, most notably the Navajo. Among various tribes, the swastika carried different meanings. To the Hopi it represented the wandering Hopi clan; to the Navajo it was one symbol for a whirling log (tsil no'oli'), a sacred image representing a legend that was used in healing rituals (after learning of the Nazi association, the Navajo discontinued use of the symbol).[37] A brightly colored First Nations saddle featuring swastika designs is on display at the Royal Saskatchewan Museum in Canada.[38]

A swastika shape is a symbol in the culture of the Kuna people of Kuna Yala, Panama. In Kuna tradition, it symbolizes the octopus that created the world; its tentacles, pointing to the four cardinal points.[39]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

It was the mystics of the Thule Gessellschaft who bequeathed the swastika to Hitler & the Nazis.

Quote:The use of the swastika was associated by Nazi theorists with their conjecture of Aryan cultural descent of the German people. Following the Nordicist version of the Aryan invasion theory, the Nazis claimed that the early Aryans of India, from whose Vedic tradition the swastika sprang, were the prototypical white invaders. It was also widely believed that the Indian caste system had originated as a means to avoid racial mixing.[citation needed] The concept of racial purity was an ideology central to Nazism, though it is now considered unscientific. For Rosenberg, the Aryans of India were both a model to be imitated and a warning of the dangers of the spiritual and racial "confusion" that, he believed, arose from the close proximity of races. Thus, they saw fit to co-opt the sign as a symbol of the Aryan master race. The use of the swastika as a symbol of the Aryan race dates back to writings of Emile Burnouf. Following many other writers, the German nationalist poet Guido von List believed it to be a uniquely Aryan symbol. Before the Nazis, the swastika was already in use as a symbol of German völkisch nationalist movements (Völkische Bewegung). In Deutschland Erwache (ISBN 0-912138-69-6), Ulric of England (sic) says:

[…] what inspired Hitler to use the swastika as a symbol for the NSDAP was its use by the Thule Society (German: Thule-Gesellschaft) since there were many connections between them and the DAP … from 1919 until the summer of 1921 Hitler used the special Nationalsozialistische library of Dr. Friedrich Krohn, a very active member of the Thule-Gesellschaft … Dr. Krohn was also the dentist from Sternberg who was named by Hitler in Mein Kampf as the designer of a flag very similar to one that Hitler designed in 1920 … during the summer of 1920, the first party flag was shown at Lake Tegernsee … these home-made … early flags were not preserved, the Ortsgruppe München (Munich Local Group) flag was generally regarded as the first flag of the Party.

José Manuel Erbez says:

The first time the swastika was used with an "Aryan" meaning was on December 25, 1907, when the self-named Order of the New Templars, a secret society founded by [Adolf Joseph] Lanz von Liebenfels, hoisted at Werfenstein Castle (Austria) a yellow flag with a swastika and four fleurs-de-lys.[48]

What Farrell may be (re)discovering is a piece of iconic, archetypal, encoding of a fundamental scientific principle in the symbolism of the swastika.

His suggestion does seem numinous to me.

At a mundane level, I can imagine torsion genius Gerlach selling his Bell project to the SS mystics through an exposition of this additional meaning of the swastiika.

At the profound level, perhaps this is one of the archetypal meanings intended - encoded? - by the original creators of the swastika.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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