11-06-2011, 05:34 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-06-2011, 06:14 AM by Seamus Coogan.)
Stan Wilbourne Wrote:Some of it may be "balls." Some of it not.
When I think of the order coming from the desk of David Rockefeller the whole assassination makes sense.
Unlike the LBJ nonsense, or the the "Mob" or "CIA."
One phone call from David Rockefeller with Allen Dulles, one meeting between those two men in an office, and the whole conspiracy takes place.
Helms, Angleton, Phillips. The MSM, all of it. It all makes sense.
Who had control of the country in '63? Who had the power to take JFK out?
We can make it a "parlor game" and continue with this forever. 50 years. Who dunnit?
The Rockefeller empire, the Federal Reserve banking system. That is what killed President Kennedy.
The Rockefeller order. The Lieutenants: Allen Dulles, Richard Helms, James Angleton. And then other umbrella of power.
Who controls World Bank? What is Hillary Clinton currently trying to do? What apparatus controls the United States?
Banking.
The Federal Reserve.
Rockefeller, Dupont, Morgan, Lodge, Luce.
They killed Kennedy and stole our future.
Game over. Times up.
50 years. If you cant hazard a guess go home.
"We'll never know."
Bullshit.
Bullshit I agree. But if that bullshit is also directed at myself well let's see here.
Stan why not do an essay on it? Why not inform us all. I mean hey you know more than me or Jim Di or say Donald Gibson, CD and a heap of other people here right?
I agree with a lot of what you said. What made you think I didn't? Well it seems because I said we have to be cautious. Sheeeeeesh, what a nasty piece of work I am. Oh the indignity.
I've written a bit. I've not seen anything of yours outside of the forum. Now this is what I find funny. People like you who don't write anything and don't have the 'balls' to put it out there for review then get stuck into myself for moving slowly? Sorry, but you should grow some and put pen to paper or finger to keyboard and then trump say Donald Gibson? Research is slow and time consuming. There's no need to attack people who are essentially on your side and share the same general outlook.
Say for instance I believe Rockefeller was up to his neck in this.
I might be correct. But then okay what sources do I use to make my case? Whose credible? Whose got their stuff referenced? I think Allen Dulles was involved. In fact I think anybody whose anybody in JFK circles puts him in the mix. But if I used John Hankey, or say Joseph Farrell to prove my point my argument would be shot too pieces even before I started. Just because Gary Allen or some crank like Dave Griffin said it happened with Rockefeller doesnt mean you can use them automatically if at all. I see this happen a lot.
I've seen their use of sources and they're often terrible.
There is a role for Rockefeller I have no doubt. I think there's strong stuff with Luce and others as well. But getting into the definites above say figures like Dulles is as CD and I have discussed a real can of worms. The fact from the fiction needs to be weeded out.
Like I said you can't build your case on bad sources, foundations of straw and a hunch. If I started out I'd use Gibson as a building block and he's very inclined towards Rockefeller. But the big question I have and I will always maintain is who uses who in these arrangements? People like Dulles and his family in particularly were around a hell of a lot longer than the Rockefellers. How on earth did Dulles and his family live on such modest incomes yet travel the world in the lap of luxury at every quarter? Oh yes they knew all the secrets. So, well forgive me for holding back and thinking it's slightly more complex than the 'Rockefeller' stuff you've made it out to be.
I'm happy taking my time and assured I'm pulling in your direction. But by all means beat me to the punch and go for it yourself.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992