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Dallas for the 50th?
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Blanche: Funerals are pretty compared to death. Funerals are quiet, but deaths not always."


Oh, to hear the Sweet Bird of Truth.

Heavenly Finley: You have an illusion of power, poppa!

Boss Finley: I have power and that's no illusion.


Instead, we get Morpheus Descending.

The show is over. The monkey's dead!
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#32
Bernice Moore Wrote:Good one Ian, but you left out another handle, ''the Pope of Dealey Plaza''..thanks b

The pope of Dealey plaza is a very troubled soul

He knows it was'nt Oswald but his fee demands his role

Cos Ozzie he was having lunch could not get to the knoll

The pope is always haunted by an uttering from Fritz

"Can't put him in the window" it just gives him the shitz

He still takes all the silver playing the Larry game

"Can't put him in the window" ? Lets put him in the frame!.

Ian
Gentlemen you cannot fight in here,This is the War room!.
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#33
Just remembered, Bush 43 lives in Dallas now...as do many other right-wing Rich and Powerful. They may also be behind the 50th 'celebrations' of a coup well done.Pirate
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#34

The City of Dallas' Anti-Conspiracy Conspiracy

Dallas' handling of JFK anniversary: an enigma wrapped in a big wad of dumb.

By Jim Schutze Thursday, Jul 25 2013

Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings, talking last week about the worries some people harbor concerning the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination in Dealey Plaza, recalled his own recent visit to President Obama's second inaugural in Washington. When a pro-life person climbed a tree and attempted to disrupt the inaugural, Rawlings told me that people in the Dallas group exclaimed, "'That's what's going to happen, that's what's going to happen'" in Dealey Plaza in November.
When I repeated the mayor's anecdote to John Judge, head of the Coalition on Political Assassinations, one of the groups that will be banned from the plaza by police cordon that day, he laughed. "If you make us do it, yeah," Judge said. "I mean, that's the point. We don't normally climb up in a tree."





It's only four months from the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination, and absolutely nothing has been resolved about access to Dealey Plaza on that day, virtually guaranteeing the kind of messy showdown City Hall fears most.
The plaza will be shut down for two weeks, a week on either side of November 22, with access and control granted to only one group, a private committee calling itself only "The 50th" because they don't even want the word "assassination" spoken. Is that crazy enough for you?
The people in charge of "The 50th" have set up a ticketing procedure by which exclusive access to the plaza that day will be granted. To get in, you must apply online months ahead of time for a ticket, a process requiring you to submit personal identification numbers such as Social Security, driver's license or passport so that you may be subjected to a background check.
And, remember: No matter what anybody tells you, this is not about the life and legacy of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, none of which happened here. It's not about the number 50, which is one more than 49 and one less than 51. It's about an assassination that is of interest mainly to people who believe the killing was a conspiracy unsolved to this day.
In other words, this whole thing is an event that will attract people who believe in, are experts on and think in terms of conspiracy. So what do we think happens when we try to bar conspiracy experts from maybe the biggest conspiracy event of the last half century and then go all dark on them and tough-tootsie and refuse to tell them why they are being barred? They will think the whole thing is a ... (hint: begins with letter after B, before D).
I started asking questions about the ticketing process some weeks ago, because I was getting complaints from people in the assassination-study community who were being barred from the online ticketing process for screwy reasons. Chris Pike, a freelance journalist well known to JFK researchers, is slated to speak at the 50th Anniversary Convention of COPA to be held in Dallas on November 22, the same day as the 50th thing.
Like many of the people who will attend the COPA convention here, Pike went online as soon as he could to apply for tickets to the event in Dealey Plaza. On all of the decade anniversaries since the assassination the 10th, 20th, 30th and 40th COPA has conducted somber moments of silence just after noon at Dealey Plaza to mark the moment when it happened. This year for the first time they are barred as a group from carrying out their ceremony, so members are understandably eager to win admission as individuals to a moment and place important to them for most of their lives.
When Pike tried to fill out the online form, the web page kept kicking him out, telling him his driver's license number was not current. He says it is current and he's had the same number for 20 years.
I had the same experience. I gave the web page a number and got rejected too. But because I have to re-type things all the time anyway, I kept trying, and eventually the page accepted the number I gave it as authentic. By the way, it was a fake number. I was just messing with it. Anyway, the answer is that the online ticketing system is not robust, to say the least. It does not look, sound or feel like anything law enforcement would do. More on that in a moment.
I asked Paula Blackmon, the mayor's chief of staff, to tell me who is running it. She wrote back, "Just to answer your specific question, DPD [Dallas Police Department] is doing the vetting of folks to the event."
I called the public information office of the police department and got a very puzzled response from an officer who said he would have to get back to me. Later, Frank Librio, the overall spokesman for the city, emailed me an official statement from an assistant chief saying, "Because of the high profile nature of the event and recent attacks in the nation we will be very security conscious. While we don't discuss specific security measures there is a need to identify attendees at the event for security related purposes."

Librio demanded that I correct earlier stories in which I had reported that the tickets would eventually be awarded in a lottery, insisting instead that I characterize the process as a "random computerized allocation process." And before I go on, allow me to attend to that bit of business:
Contrary to earlier reports here, the tickets will not be distributed by lottery. Instead they will be distributed according to an Irish Sweepstakes-type Publishers Clearinghouse-style Hot-Lotto-Powerball numbers-racket random computerized allocation process.





Now (deep breath), I should mention that after Blackmon told me the police department was handling the ticketing process and after the assistant chief gave me a statement referencing "recent attacks in the nation" and after Librio demanded that I stop calling it a lottery, Blackmon and I spoke again. This time around, she told me the ticketing process including the balky web page is being handled by "an ad agency." She did not have the name of the ad agency handy when we spoke, and before I could get it from her she left town on vacation.
Back to real easy questions. How do we suppose all of this is falling on the ears of the assassination community? Pike, the assassination researcher who couldn't get the web page to accept his driver's license number, told me he thought he had figured it out.
"For these crazy people, what it amounts to, and this is my speculation, Jim, they are using illegally obtained personal information through hacking email correspondence, by obtaining information from whatever public data has been out there for the Coalition on Political Assassinations, namely a list of speakers which they can trace and find out their email addresses, whatever, anything else they can get by hook or crook."
Didn't see that one coming, did we? And please don't let me give the impression I think the assassination scholars are kooks. Many of them are solid historians and investigative reporters who have unearthed intriguing questions and anomalies surrounding the assassination. If they tend to respond to the city's ham-fistedness in ways that reflect their own experience and expertise, well, frankly, so do I.
Ah, but for one thing! Damn it! Wouldn't you know somebody would spoil my fun! Dallas Police Chief David Brown heard that I was out beating the bushes, guessed that I was probably getting a bunch of nervous misstatements of fact that made no sense, and, even though I had not called him, he called me up and set me straight.
The ad agency is gathering names. That's all. The police department will vet the names, Brown said, but only to check them against major watch lists. He said pointedly that no one will be barred because of a connection to COPA or any other group of that sort.
"The only thing we would be checking is any type of nexus to terrorism or relation to terrorism like watch lists or anything that just kind of jumps out at you like a red flag." He explained he was calling me specifically because he knew that any failure to maintain total transparency on the process would invite accusations of conspiracy.
Yup. Damn it!
The other rather plaintive call-back I got was from the mayor, who was an hour from leaving town on his own family vacation. I asked him why the 50th people couldn't do their event, go ahead and hog the plaza for the moment itself right after noon, fold their chairs, clear out and turn the place over to COPA or other groups who want access that day. He said he didn't know. "I'm assuming these people [COPA] will come in, be respectful, have their moment of silence and not run around, yell and stuff," he said.
When I went back to Judge with that, he cited multiple instances in which COPA has been formally notified by the city and county that it may not set foot in the plaza or on other city-owned property that day or a week prior or after. He said he assumed his group and others will wind up having to sue the city over free speech and freedom of assembly issues.
For a while, the Sixth Floor Museum was being shoved out front on this, made to act the bad guy at great damage to its reputation. They wriggled out of it somehow. Now the mayor and the police chief are holding the hot potato, staring down at it in their hands like dog owners who've just done a bad sanitary pickup.
And yet nothing gets done. Nothing works out. The people who should be in charge don't seem to be, inviting the spooky question: Who is? And the date draws nigh. Is it a date with destiny? Or stupidity? Do we know for sure there's a difference?
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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The Church Lady on the Twenty-Second eve
asked the Dallas heat just what the boys chose to believe
If nobody saw him there, not even the girl on the stair
how can we even know to send the crowds where
they shot the president from the bushes in the sun
we'll just put 'em in bleachers under Elm Street Four One One



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#36
Thanks.
Jim
Read not to contradict and confute;
nor to believe and take for granted;
nor to find talk and discourse;
but to weigh and consider.
FRANCIS BACON
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#37

JFK 50th Anniversary Will Be Hell in a Handbasket. Goody.


By Jim Schutze Thu., Jul. 18 2013 at 11:30 AM


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JFK assassination 50th anniversary news: City of Dallas releases video showing Dealey Plaza was occupied by Indians long before JFK assassination. Suburban library presents speech by guy who gave Lee Harvey Oswald ride to work. Boston auction announces it will hawk Oswald's wedding ring.Mind if I slip something else into the narrative? The whole 50th thing is headed for hell-in-a-hand-basket. Just thought I'd mention it.
I've been working on a column about it for next week's paper. No meetings, no compromise, no accommodation whatsoever: That's the news on negotiations between the committee of private citizens running the 50th observations at Dealey Plaza and an array of assassination conspiracy study groups who say they will be banned by police cordon under current arrangements.

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John Judge, head of the Coalition on Political Assassinations in Washington, confirmed to me this week that none of his group's requests for a meeting have even been responded to by the private outfit ruling the event with an iron hand. Meanwhile, COPA has its hands on an email stream -- evidence in an unrelated lawsuit -- showing that city officials started out a year ago seeking to banish anybody from the event who believes the assassination is an unsolved mystery."Classic content-based suppression of free speech," he calls it.
See also:
Mayor Mike's Plan to Keep "Extremists" from the JFK 50th: Does It Include Him?
I caught the mayor just as he was leaving town on vacation. He told me sponsors of the planned event at Dealey Plaza November 22 are afraid conspiracy theorists will climb trees and shout like monkeys like the pro-life guy at the Obama inauguration. COPA has carried out solemn respectful moments of silence in Dealey Plaza at every 10-year anniversary of the assassination, and Judge told me they'll climb trees if that's the only option the city leaves them.
Meanwhile the ticketing process for the event is a mess. Members of COPA are complaining that the web page where you apply for a ticket is kicking them out, not even letting them complete the application process. I asked Paula Blackmon, the mayor's chief of staff, who was in charge.
First she told me in an email it was the Dallas Police Department. When I told the police department she had told me that, a public information officer on the other end of the line sort of suggested he thought nobody could ever have told me such a thing. A bit stung, I forwarded Blackmon's email to him. Not too much later Blackmon called me and corrected herself, saying this time that the web page for the tickets was being run by an ad agency, the name of which she couldn't remember off-hand. Then she left on vacation, too.
Later, Dallas Police Chief David Brown, whom I had not called, called me up to set me straight. The ad agency runs the web page where the names are collected. Once they have a list, the police department will vet that list against major terrorism watch lists. He said DPD will not be kicking anybody out because they belong to COPA. But, of course, nobody in COPA will be on the list if the mystery ad agency has already barred them from even applying.
I'm trying to think what the name could be for that ad agency. Hoover, McCone, Hunt, Castro, Trafficante and Dallas? Ah, just kidding, Big D. Keep your shirt on.
Judge tells me the groups being shut out will sue the city to get in. But even in federal court here, the local powers-that-be have a major home-fried advantage in the courts, so it's unlikely a judge of any stripe will mess with the mossbacks on the 50th committee before November 22.
Does that mean it's over and the mossbacks get their way? Oh, no, it means hell-to-pay on November 22. The people who have devoted a half century to solving this mystery are not going to allow Dallas to push them out of a public place that had become near-sacred to them.
People in trees could happen. And more. Now back to the regular news stream: Guy who took picture of JFK at Love Field, now 112 years old, will address audience at Sixth Floor Museum on topic, "Has Anyone Seen My Wallet?"
In news terms, this just gets better.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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I asked Paula Blackmon, the mayor's chief of staff, who was in charge.

First she told me in an email it was the Dallas Police Department. When I told the police department she had told me that, a public information officer on the other end of the line sort of suggested he thought nobody could ever have told me such a thing. A bit stung, I forwarded Blackmon's email to him. Not too much later Blackmon called me and corrected herself, saying this time that the web page for the tickets was being run by an ad agency, the name of which she couldn't remember off-hand. Then she left on vacation, too.

Later, Dallas Police Chief David Brown, whom I had not called, called me up to set me straight. The ad agency runs the web page where the names are collected. Once they have a list, the police department will vet that list against major terrorism watch lists. He said DPD will not be kicking anybody out because they belong to COPA. But, of course, nobody in COPA will be on the list if the mystery ad agency has already barred them from even applying.


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If the police officer in charge admitted they had no case
and the police now vetting the admittees were accessories to framing and silencing the patsy
and the only member of local law enforcement to press unrelentingly for truth was attacked and murdered
why doesn't Dallas come out of the closet and Strike Hard in the manner of Tiananmen Square June 4, 1989

It seems they've eschewed a man on horseback for a sidesaddle ride on Caroline's tricycle
Blazing Saddles:
Bold from ambush, craven in the light


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I asked Paula Blackmon, the mayor's chief of staff, who was in charge.

First she told me in an email it was the Dallas Police Department. When I told the police department she had told me that, a public information officer on the other end of the line sort of suggested he thought nobody could ever have told me such a thing. A bit stung, I forwarded Blackmon's email to him. Not too much later Blackmon called me and corrected herself, saying this time that the web page for the tickets was being run by an ad agency, the name of which she couldn't remember off-hand. Then she left on vacation, too.

Later, Dallas Police Chief David Brown, whom I had not called, called me up to set me straight. The ad agency runs the web page where the names are collected. Once they have a list, the police department will vet that list against major terrorism watch lists. He said DPD will not be kicking anybody out because they belong to COPA. But, of course, nobody in COPA will be on the list if the mystery ad agency has already barred them from even applying.


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If the police officer in charge admitted they had no case
and the police now vetting the admittees were accessories to framing and silencing the patsy
and the only member of local law enforcement to press unrelentingly for truth was attacked and murdered
why doesn't Dallas come out of the closet and Strike Hard in the manner of Tiananmen Square June 4, 1989

It seems they've eschewed a man on horseback for a sidesaddle ride on Caroline's tricycle
Blazing Saddles:
Bold from ambush, craven in the light

Yeah, Franz Kafka on CIA MK/ULTRA LSD+ couldn't have written a more convoluted, existentially tautistic 'script'. Many of the players suspected of being involved in 9-11 access and clean-up live in the Dallas area [i.e. are ideological heirs (and through family/company/ideological allegiances) to the original coup d'etat of Dallas]. More and more they don't seem to be presenting anything about the assassination - but a celebration of the coup; making sure those who believe there was a conspiracy and coup [any Deep Political Structures] not be heard or seen - except in prison, perhaps. Sadly, the trees around DP are not very large [to climb up on], if that won't be all fenced off and guarded by ninja-turtle tactical units with weapons that can only kill - with training and mindsets to match. I expect things will turn out very badly, indeed, and that only alternative and foreign press will even cover what really happens. For the average Joe and Jane Amerikan it will be 'Kafka/Wizard of Oz/Bubba and Debbie do Dallas' [rated XXX - ethically, legally and politically OBSCENE!].
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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Wouldn't it be [past] time to initiate legal action against Dallas City and all entities involved about this?! Brad Kizzia would be the natural choice of attorney, IMO...but time is a wastin' and if I were to place a bet, if they can't figure out a way to throw it out of Court on some stupid, illogical, illegal procedural grounds, then they'd drag their feet, and have it 'decided' after the event. On the face of it, and more so when you look at it in detail, this is Unconstitutional abridgment of the First Amendment [perhaps some others], discriminatory based on political biases/beliefs; likely also against all kinds of TX State and Dallas City ordinances, and all Civil and Equal Rights Legislation.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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