Albert Rossi Reviews Destiny Betrayed 2nd Edition

[Albert Rossi]

You know, looking at that early clip, that has to be one of the best reports ever on the JFK case on national TV.

At least I don't ever recall something like that by anyone else.

I mean even today, that is pretty good.

Boy, even with softballs, Bugliosi look silly.

Wow, I can't believe Fonzi's discoveries and the Garrison infiltration was on MSM.

All I can say is I hope Bill doesn't die prematurely, because then we'll never know what the CIA was up to.

[Albert Rossi]

Most of the "progressive" blogosphere is entirely concerned with the partisan puppet show. They'll spend all day talking about the latest outrageous statement by Rush Limbaugh or Michele Bachman instead of focusing on the vast unelected government that actually runs the country. Even back in the 60s, many "liberals" apparently didn't want to see the enormous power wielded by people like Dulles, Hoover, LeMay and others. It upsets their tidy little world view.

A few months ago, Chris Matthews got into an argument with Cynthia Tucker when she brought up the CIA plots to kill Castro. There was no mention of the Mafia at all, but Chris didn't even want to admit that the CIA had tried to kill Castro. "Oh, I think they were trying to make his beard fall out, but they weren't trying to kill him." Now, if they'll lie about established history, documented by Congressional committees, what won't they lie about to preserve their world view?

Just getting back to you on this. I agree that most of the so-called "Left" on line is nothing other than a front for the Democratic Party. But there are some organizations which consistently criticize the Obama regime, emit petitions in favor of rescinding his Peace Prize or in favor of Manning or Snowden, against drones, surveillance, the Keystone Pipeline, the Pacific trade agreement, assassination programs, whistleblower prosecution, lack of Wall Street Prosecution, austerity and the grand bargain, etc. etc. Nevertheless, what you say about their reluctance to take on the idea of a secret government holds true. They fear even a whisper of this, as if that would entirely undermine their credibility. "Sane" people don't believe in that stuff.

[Tracy Riddle]

I think Eisenhower was also highly resistant to sending in US troops (except for Lebanon in 1958), but unfortunately he overcompensated in the other direction by building enough nukes to blow up the planet.

Didn't Ike inherit the massive US military build-up from Truman and his Sec of Def Robert Lovett?

A strategic shift was made away from a huge conventional military (which is expensive) towards building thousands of nukes (which are much cheaper). So Ike and John Foster Dulles developed the idea of "massive retaliation" - that the US would respond with nukes instead of troops in the event of a major move by the communist powers.

Kennedy thought this was crazy, which is why he initially favored building up the Special Forces and counterinsurgency tactics instead of going nuclear over every crisis.

[Dawn Meredith]

Going through public school and college in the 70s and 80s, all I ever learned about JFK was that he was a Cold War hawk who stood up to the Russians during the Missile Crisis, plus the Berlin speech, the Bay of Pigs, and the moon race. That was it. Oh, and LBJ was just following Kennedy's Vietnam policy.

Tracy, I can concur with all that you say. What saddens me most about this is that academic intellectuals on the left, not just the right, have put their rubber stamp on this view.

Only through my own research did I learn how distorted and inaccurate that picture was. In fact, I'd say Americans don't learn any real history about any of their Presidents. They learn a lot of myths, legends and stereotypes. And many are totally happy listening to the Right-wing myth machine (our Founding Fathers wanted this to be a Christian nation, etc).

I think these myths are so ingrained -- from school, the media, family, and in many cases religious organizations -- that it is almost impossible to shake them. I also wonder why most Americans are so passive, even when they (we) learn something about the power structure that should outrage them (us). It has been my own experience -- and this is more an impression than anything else -- that Europeans will take to the streets for much less than what we swallow here daily.

Relevant here is Prof. Antony Sutton's book "America's Secret Establishment" and particularly the chapter entitled "How the Order Controls Education".

The process of active thoughtlessness begins in schools and is reinforced thereafter by the media.

Al, I agree that some Europeans take to the streets. The French are particularly to be admired in this regard (but the State's CRS is also particularly formidable too, because of the regularly revolting masses).

The Greeks and Turks are currently at the barricades too.

But I ashamed to say that we Brits - with a few exceptions - are as passive as can be.

Ps, the link I placed above is to a free pdf of Tony's book.

David, My browser (Internet explorer) tells me it can't open the link above. Darn!!

Dawn

[Jim DiEugenio]

Announcement:

Len Osanic has agreed to have Albert on his show soon to discuss his review of my book.

Take a bow Albert and thanks Len.

I guess I should be glad I am here and not at EF. If I was there, Ray Carroll would make some smartaleck comment about Garrison, and Lifton would say something about basking that poor Ruth Paine.

Anyway, this is something to look forward to. Will let everyone know the exact date.

[Lauren Johnson]

Relevant here is Prof. Antony Sutton's book "America's Secret Establishment" and particularly the chapter entitled "How the Order Controls Education".


Ps, the link I placed above is to a free pdf of Tony's book.

Try Scribd for the .pdf.

[David Guyatt]

Going through public school and college in the 70s and 80s, all I ever learned about JFK was that he was a Cold War hawk who stood up to the Russians during the Missile Crisis, plus the Berlin speech, the Bay of Pigs, and the moon race. That was it. Oh, and LBJ was just following Kennedy's Vietnam policy.

Tracy, I can concur with all that you say. What saddens me most about this is that academic intellectuals on the left, not just the right, have put their rubber stamp on this view.

Only through my own research did I learn how distorted and inaccurate that picture was. In fact, I'd say Americans don't learn any real history about any of their Presidents. They learn a lot of myths, legends and stereotypes. And many are totally happy listening to the Right-wing myth machine (our Founding Fathers wanted this to be a Christian nation, etc).

I think these myths are so ingrained -- from school, the media, family, and in many cases religious organizations -- that it is almost impossible to shake them. I also wonder why most Americans are so passive, even when they (we) learn something about the power structure that should outrage them (us). It has been my own experience -- and this is more an impression than anything else -- that Europeans will take to the streets for much less than what we swallow here daily.

Relevant here is Prof. Antony Sutton's book "America's Secret Establishment" and particularly the chapter entitled "How the Order Controls Education".

The process of active thoughtlessness begins in schools and is reinforced thereafter by the media.

Al, I agree that some Europeans take to the streets. The French are particularly to be admired in this regard (but the State's CRS is also particularly formidable too, because of the regularly revolting masses).

The Greeks and Turks are currently at the barricades too.

But I ashamed to say that we Brits - with a few exceptions - are as passive as can be.

Ps, the link I placed above is to a free pdf of Tony's book.

David, My browser (Internet explorer) tells me it can't open the link above. Darn!!

Dawn

Sorry about that Dawn. That link does appear to be broken. This one definitely works

America's Secret Establishment