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John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee
Magda Hassan Wrote:
John Mooney Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Twins and doubles, doppelgangers are useful in all sorts of intelligence and criminal situations. Just a tool to be used from a whole box of tricks suitable for many occasions.

I agree.. but twins are already available and so are look-alikes - that is a trick of substitution.

But that wasn't my question.

Back in 1952 the CIA said "We need to take these 13 year old children and create a dual Oswald identity because.... ___________________________"
Basically because it might come in handy some where some time for some thing.

Like what?
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John Mooney Wrote:I'm sorry.. but you're still not answering the question.

I'm sorry... but you still don't know your deep political history.

You can lead a horse to water.....
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:I'm sorry... but you still don't know your deep political history.

You can lead a horse to water.....

I've a hunch you're being evasive.

Just a hunch.

Do you think ad hominem could be useful here?
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John Mooney Wrote:
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:I'm sorry... but you still don't know your deep political history.

You can lead a horse to water.....

I've a hunch you're being evasive.

Just a hunch.

Do you think ad hominem could be useful here?

I've a hunch you don't know your deep political history.

DPF is not a kindergarten.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:DPF is not a kindergarten.

I know.

I think I'm asking a fair question. Don't you?
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John Mooney Wrote:
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Let readers see JA's interview with Pfisterer president Linda Faircloth and decide for themselves. I know, I know, all these lying witnesses... we just have to trust the FBI.

Did you not see the circular reasoning in this video?

They all referred back to McBride for the date. "Every time I asked the question the response would come back, the one you really need to talk to is.... ...the one that you really need to speak to is Palmer McBride".

And this!!!

"I also talked to Palmer McBride after speaking to John Armstrong".

Is John Mooney deliberately misrepresenting this interview, or did he simply not bother to listen to it, like he didn't bother to look at Greg Parker's so-called evidence, evidence that doesn't even relate to the school year in question, evidence in which names are inserted into otherwise identical paragraphs and boiler plate language?

In the interview with John Armstrong, Linda Faircloth mentions Johnny Lepez six or seven times, as well as Louis Fischer, John Otterer, Arthur Stumpf, George Bishoff, and Lionel Slaterer (phonetic spellings). She mentions Palmer McBride twice, and it's really the same reference since the mentions are just a couple of words apart. ONE MENTION!!

FORUM MEMBERS: Here again is the link to the six-minute Faircloth interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_A_tKDaJPY

Ask yourself, is John Mooney honestly describing this interview, or is he indulging in the same kind of thing most of us here are all too familiar with? I'll be gone for part of today, so no doubt Mr. Mooney will have the time to twist the truth into a pretzel and declare victory eight or ten times, but hey, it's an old story, eh?

Jim
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John Mooney Wrote:
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:DPF is not a kindergarten.

I know.

I think I'm asking a fair question. Don't you?

I think you're looking for a Straw Man answer, which excludes 90% of the historical context.

In 1952, radioactive cornflakes were being fed to American children by agencies of the American state, entirely absent informed consent.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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John Mooney Wrote:
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:DPF is not a kindergarten.

I know.

I think I'm asking a fair question. Don't you?

I suggest we simply cease responding to those who refuse to do any research and simply parrot the views of
someone who has also been shown to be wrong.
As an aside, there is a facebook page on Harvey and Lee and people have recently posted that the forum mentioned here also has several posts bashing me
and a well- informed FB poster who goes by Curt Jester. (sp). I have never been to this site and have never had any run ins that I know of with GP. Oh well.
I asked Mr Mooney if he had READ H&L and he clearly has no intention of doing this. So be it.
People who pan work not read are not worth responding to. IMHO.
Dawn
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John Mooney Wrote:No one commented on the "joker" picture, one of two in the list that looks odd but which is clearly Oswald once you remove the obvious tampering someone did to it.

There are some better quality copies of it in Armstrong's Baylor archives, including one scanned right from Robert Oswald's book. I'm sure Jim can find the links faster than I can. But in one blowup, you can see that the "joker" smile is a shadow above his chin.
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Jim Hargrove Wrote:
John Mooney Wrote:
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Let readers see JA's interview with Pfisterer president Linda Faircloth and decide for themselves. I know, I know, all these lying witnesses... we just have to trust the FBI.

Did you not see the circular reasoning in this video?

They all referred back to McBride for the date. "Every time I asked the question the response would come back, the one you really need to talk to is.... ...the one that you really need to speak to is Palmer McBride".

And this!!!

"I also talked to Palmer McBride after speaking to John Armstrong".

Is John Mooney deliberately misrepresenting this interview, or did he simply not bother to listen to it, like he didn't bother to look at Greg Parker's so-called evidence, evidence that doesn't even relate to the school year in question, evidence in which names are inserted into otherwise identical paragraphs and boiler plate language?

In the interview with John Armstrong, Linda Faircloth mentions Johnny Lepez six or seven times, as well as Louis Fischer, John Otterer, Arthur Stumpf, George Bishoff, and Lionel Slaterer (phonetic spellings). She mentions Palmer McBride twice, and it's really the same reference since the mentions are just a couple of words apart. ONE MENTION!!
FORUM MEMBERS: Here again is the link to the six-minute Faircloth interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_A_tKDaJPY

Ask yourself, is John Mooney honestly describing this interview, or is he indulging in the same kind of thing most of us here are all too familiar with? I'll be gone for part of today, so no doubt Mr. Mooney will have the time to twist the truth into a pretzel and declare victory eight or ten times, but hey, it's an old story, eh?

Jim

Jim I listened to the video.. it was "the one you need to speak to is... the one you need to speak to is..." all down the line UNTIL we get to "and then I spoke to "John Armstrong and Palmer McBride".

It's the truth.

You know it and I know it.

I have not misrepresented anything.
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