John McAdams part 1

[Jim DiEugenio]

He made it in Case Closed?

And Bugliosi still didn't have him produce the case law?

He had 15 years to do so.

[Albert Rossi]

Where's the tough Texas law Alexander was talking about?

Further, when did they advise him of his right to remain silent? And when did they tell him they would furnish him a lawyer?

If they did not do any of this, and they did not, how was Texas law tougher than Miranda?

I guess it only applies to unofficial interrogations by out of state D.A.'s, such as with Sergio Arcacha Smith. Oh, oops, that was later ...

[Charles Drago]

You dance with the crazy daddy of death ...

he fingers you, and you cry gotcha!.
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a wind has blown the rain away and blown
the sky away and all the leaves away,
and the trees stand. I think i too have known
autumn too long

(and what have you to say,
wind wind winddid you love somebody
and have you the petal of somewhere in your heart
pinched from dumb summer?
O crazy daddy
of death dance cruelly for us and start

the last leaf whirling in the final brain
of air!)Let us as we have seen see
doom's integration………a wind has blown the rain

away and the leaves and the sky and the
trees stand:
the trees stand. The trees,
suddenly wait against the moon's face.

-- e. e. cummings

[Jim DiEugenio]

LOL.

Oh yes, they did all they could to protect SAS didn't they?

Including having Aynesworth there to advise him.

[Tracy Riddle]

He made it in Case Closed?

And Bugliosi still didn't have him produce the case law?

He had 15 years to do so.

I got that quote from my file on Alexander, and I either obtained it from Case Closed (which I checked out of the library in the 90s), or from some later interview with Posner.

[Jim DiEugenio]

But let us not lose track of the overall point.

There was no stenographic transcript made. And this is what McAdams tries to smudge.

He tries to say that these brief cursive notes are the equivalent of that. They are not.

Now, if Fritz did make that secret tape recording, that is really interesting. Mary Ferrell told that to Jack White many years ago.

Because Fritz was strangely quiet on the JFK case until he died.

Maybe because it was him breaking containment that got Oswald killed?

But recall, McAdams says the police thought they had control of the basement. Yep John. We know the kind of control you mean. Setting up the alleyway for their friend Jack Ruby. With horns sounding and all.

[Albert Rossi]

But let us not lose track of the overall point.

There was no stenographic transcript made. And this is what McAdams tries to smudge.

He tries to say that these brief cursive notes are the equivalent of that. They are not.

Now, if Fritz did make that secret tape recording, that is really interesting. Mary Ferrell told that to Jack White many years ago.

Because Fritz was strangely quiet on the JFK case until he died.

Maybe because it was him breaking containment that got Oswald killed?

But recall, McAdams says the police thought they had control of the basement. Yep John. We know the kind of control you mean. Setting up the alleyway for their friend Jack Ruby. With horns sounding and all.

Aside from the absence of case law to justify the lack of stenographic protocol, do Posner, Bugliosi or McAdams cite other contemporary instances of interrogation during which the same thing occurred?

[Jim DiEugenio]

Not that I am aware of.

But, before Miranda and Escobedo, what the cops with Oswald would be SOP.

They did not advise him of his right to remain silent, and they did not say they would furnish him an attorney. When he asked for respite, they overrode it.

Under Miranda and Escobedo, they could not have done those things.

But the idea that they would not make any stenographic record, or recording, that is just incredible. Which is why I think the Ferrell story is correct.

[Albert Rossi]

Not that I am aware of.

But, before Miranda and Escobedo, what the cops with Oswald would be SOP.

They did not advise him of his right to remain silent, and they did not say they would furnish him an attorney. When he asked for respite, they overrode it.

Under Miranda and Escobedo, they could not have done those things.

But the idea that they would not make any stenographic record, or recording, that is just incredible. Which is why I think the Ferrell story is correct.

Yeah, to state the obvious, Fritz is a "person of interest": the story of when and how he initiated the search for TSBD employee Oswald, his being mixed up with the M-C shell casing shuffle that day, etc., are, to say the least, "problematic".

[Tracy Riddle]

I'm less suspicious of Fritz than I am of his supervisor, Asst Deputy Chief M.W. Stevenson.

Fritz told the WC: "Well, we had taken some precautions but those were changed. We were told in the beginning that we would be in the parade directly behind it, I don't know whether it was the second or third car, but the Vice President's car, that we would be directly behind that, and we did make preparation for that. But at 10 o'clock the night before the parade, Chief Stevenson called me at home and told me that had been changed, and I was assigned with two of my officers to the speakers' stand at the Trade Mart."

So Fritz and his two top aides are taken out of the motorcade and stationed at the Trade Mart. Then they waste time going to Parkland before finally getting back to the scene of the crime (which may account for the lack of leadership and organization among the cops in Dealey Plaza, why the TSBD was not sealed effectively, and why the sniper's nest was not found for so long).

Here's a rare interview with Stevenson.