Albert Doyle Wrote:Carolyn Arnold saw 'Oswald' (most likely Harvey) in the 2nd floor lunch-room. The ROKC deniers are saying claims that the 2nd floor lunch-room was not used by workers trumps Carolyn Arnold's own lying eyes.
Oswald wasn't a 'worker' per say. He was a CIA operative working in a building overseen by Byrd and Truly. Two persons closely connected to the right-wing cabal that assassinated Kennedy.
Mr. Doyle-Yates, (you just posted of goings on at other sites) thank you for clearing all of that up. Next time I want to know how to think, you'll be my go to guy! Care to post your supporting sources, or........ ? Can you cite one example of Byrd collaborating with TSBD manager Roy Truly, or Byrd involved in TSBD operations, or anything supporting Oswald as
Quote:.....a CIA operative working in a building overseen by Byrd and Truly
"Most likely Harvey" ???? "Most likely is very strong for an unsupported opinion, so why bother to post it?
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
Byrd being connected to the same Civil Air Patrol that Ferrie and Oswald were members of has nothing to do with anything I'm sure and we can just stick to your admonishments that you can trust FBI. Parker also trusts FBI.
I also trust the FBI (about as far as I can throw them )
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
Greg Parker is a psychopath. He's now on ROKC explaining why Carolyn Arnold's memory of seeing Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch-room, he claims was off-limits to workers, was wrong. As if people would take seriously his Rube Goldberg explanations around the obvious evidence.
Parker is a crank who honestly tries to get away with saying that Carolyn Arnold seeing Oswald sitting at the lunch-room table is due to the well-known unreliability of witness testimony. He's honestly trying to get away with that. As if Carolyn Arnold somehow mis-remembered seeing Oswald as she ducked in to the lunch-room for a drink from the water fountain.
He's either Cinque-level certifiable or an op.
There's nothing untoward about Oswald sitting in the lunch-room. The plotters knew the employees would be outside watching the president. Oswald being in the lunch-room keeps him away from the upstairs where he was being framed. What is unreasonable is thinking with all the known conspiracy involved here that they would let Oswald stray out to the front steps. Greg obviously has no sense of self exposing irony when he says "What under-cover operative blows his cover by not playing his cover role to the max."
Albert Doyle Wrote:Byrd being connected to the same Civil Air Patrol that Ferrie and Oswald were members of has nothing to do with anything I'm sure and we can just stick to your admonishments that you can trust FBI. Parker also trusts FBI.
Your unsupported, unsupportable speculation and opinion vs. the unsupported, unsupportable speculation of your designated opponent(s). It gets old. You and your demonized adversaries argue irrelevant opinions that can never overcome
the obstacles of poorly exposed film images and an imposing number of contrary witness statements and testimony.
Why maintain this charade, amounting to a prop attempting to disguise the juvenile name calling you and the adversaries you've demonized are reduced to posting? Start a separate thread naming those you've diagnosed as psychopaths.
In between posting insults you debate the gender of an indistinguishable, irrelevant figure and you work yourself into a frenzy.
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
Parker apparently doesn't realize that arguing himself into the admission that Oswald was in the lunch-room as a CIA operative is the same as admitting Oswald was in the lunch-room as a CIA operative, and was seen by Carolyn Arnold. Do we believe Carolyn Arnold or the make it up as he goes along bs artist Greg Parker who demands "substantiation"?
This is why Parker is a psychopath. A research acrobat who chases his tail in such an artful manner that he ends up hanging by his own petard.
Scully, Mary Pinchot Meyer was killed by CIA black op.
Albert Doyle Wrote:Parker apparently doesn't realize that arguing himself into the admission that Oswald was in the lunch-room as a CIA operative is the same as admitting Oswald was in the lunch-room as a CIA operative, and was seen by Carolyn Arnold. Do we believe Carolyn Arnold or the make it up as he goes along bs artist Greg Parker who demands "substantiation"?
This is why Parker is a psychopath. A research acrobat who chases his tail in such an artful manner that he ends up hanging by his own petard.
Scully, Mary Pinchot Meyer was killed by CIA black op.
Doyle-Yates, you predictably resort to name calling because instead of putting in the effort to back your claims, you choose instead to live in a fantasy world. Grow up. This author named a name. He was wrong. You only talk and insult.
Recently by Peter Janney: Mary's Mosaic: Chapter One
Lisa Pease's six-page diatribe against me and my recent book Mary's Mosaic is, at the very least, a marvel of subjective distortion and shoddy criticism, fueled by her own personal vendetta that someone dared not follow her as she, and her partner James DiEugenio, have attempted over the years to appoint themselves as the ultimate "guardians of truth" in all things Kennedy (see here).
And as usual, Lisa Pease's only fallback source in her vain attempts to substantiate anything she writes is James DiEugenio, whom she seems to always regard as unassailable. Together, nothing that these two write can ever be challenged or debated without one of them launching some kind of personal diatribe against anyone who challenges it, establishing a different opinion.
.....It doesn't seem to matter to Pease that "Mitchell" has never been able to be located since the trial, or that his known address during that time was documented as a "CIA safe house" by three separate former CIA employees. At the time of trial in July 1965, Mitchell told a reporter that he had since retired from the military and was now a mathematics instructor at Georgetown University yet no record of his employment there could ever be located, nor was there ever any bona-fide military service record located for "Mitchell," either in the Pentagon where he was listed in the directory at the time of the murder, or in the main military data base in St. Louis. This was thoroughly researched by the Peabody Award-winning journalist Roger Charles, as discussed in my book, a fact that Pease fails to mention in one of her many deliberate omissions, which also included Damore's consultation with L. Fletcher Prouty (as documented by Damore's attorney James H. Smith) to finally understand who "Mitchell" was, before Damore confronted him. Of course, Lisa Pease is entitled to whatever flawed point of view she wants to embrace, but she's not entitled to her own set of facts.......
Quote:September 5, 2014 http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/09/05/the...hot-meyer/
The Murder of Mary Pinchot Meyer
On this edition of Real Politik James is joined by Peter Janney, author of Mary's Mosaic: The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F. Kennedy, Mary Pinchot Meyer, and Their Vision for World Peace.
.....In January 2014 Janney deposed William Mitchell as part of a wrongful death civil lawsuit to procure information on Mitchell's potential responsibility for Meyer's murder. "I am still in the last stages of my research that I hope will pull the pieces together that may point to the fact that [William] Mitchell had a specific role in this event on October 12, 1964. But I do want to make clear that I no longer believe that he was the actual assassin."
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
You mean I now have to drop that tongue in cheek part of my review where Mitchell uses a special CIA fast acting ointment to change his complexion from Caucasian to African American in a few seconds? (And Poor Michael Jackson went through a process that took him months, maybe years.) I thought that was one of the funniest things I have ever read. I mean I had a hard time trying to make it satiric.
BTW, its funny that Janney only goes after Lisa and not me. But further, it wasn't Lisa who pointed out all the stuff wrong about making MM a muse, when in fact JFK was so sophisticated about Foreign policy in 1961 that he was light years ahead of anybody in is cabinet--let alone some art student. I did that in my review. Which to my knowledge, he does not comment on.
You mean I now have to drop that tongue in cheek part of my review where Mitchell uses a special CIA fast acting ointment to change his complexion from Caucasian to African American in a few seconds? (And Poor Michael Jackson went through a process that took him months, maybe years.) I thought that was one of the funniest things I have ever read. I mean I had a hard time trying to make it satiric.
BTW, its funny that Janney only goes after Lisa and not me. But further, it wasn't Lisa who pointed out all the stuff wrong about making MM a muse, when in fact JFK was so sophisticated about Foreign policy in 1961 that he was light years ahead of anybody in is cabinet--let alone some art student. I did that in my review. Which to my knowledge, he does not comment on.
Now that you mentioned it, Jim…… what about Mitchell ?? Have asked that question several times. Which "Mitchell" did Janney actually meet? This is like the Judyth Vary Baker case. Again, I must say, I am mystified, mortified……. far from pacified. What say you ?
Albert Doyle Wrote:Greg Parker is a psychopath. He's now on ROKC explaining why Carolyn Arnold's memory of seeing Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch-room, he claims was off-limits to workers, was wrong. As if people would take seriously his Rube Goldberg explanations around the obvious evidence.
Parker is a crank who honestly tries to get away with saying that Carolyn Arnold seeing Oswald sitting at the lunch-room table is due to the well-known unreliability of witness testimony. He's honestly trying to get away with that. As if Carolyn Arnold somehow mis-remembered seeing Oswald as she ducked in to the lunch-room for a drink from the water fountain.
He's either Cinque-level certifiable or an op.
There's nothing untoward about Oswald sitting in the lunch-room. The plotters knew the employees would be outside watching the president. Oswald being in the lunch-room keeps him away from the upstairs where he was being framed. What is unreasonable is thinking with all the known conspiracy involved here that they would let Oswald stray out to the front steps. Greg obviously has no sense of self exposing irony when he says "What under-cover operative blows his cover by not playing his cover role to the max."
Albert can we just stop discussing what the folks over at Parker's forum are saying. I know they trash you as well as myself at every turn, but why do we need to reply in kind? Calling someone a "psychopath" here just brings this forum to that level. Who the frig cares what they think?
Names calling only invites the same.
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