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Sean Murphy's research deserves more
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23-02-2014, 02:08 PM
LR Trotter Wrote:I suppose I am the only person to believe that the person identified as "PrayerMan" is quite possibly a female, somewhat stocky with short hair, and maybe middle aged, and holding their arms that way to hold a purse by the strap. Yes, I suppose I'm the only one. No you're not, I suggested something like that further upstream in the thread.
23-02-2014, 04:29 PM
Tony Fratini Wrote:I believe that LHO was no higher than the second floor when the shots were fired. I am though very suspicious of the second floor encounter. As you know Bakers first day affidavit never mentions such an encounter. They could have stayed away from reporting on Oswald at the police station knowing he was a spook. We know they did that with Oswald's statements. They could have avoided recording his statements because they knew he was a spook and they were biding time. When Fritz confronted Oswald he put himself in the 2nd floor lunchroom and not out front. In my opinion once you consider that the Doorway photo is in motion there's about 2 dozen people who would have seen Oswald standing up there in the corner. It goes against probability that none of them would mention it. Once you combine this level of probability with the fact Carolyn Arnold saw Oswald at 12:25, as well as Prayer Man's stout appearance, you can pretty much discount it being Oswald in my mind. 
23-02-2014, 05:08 PM
In the "Oswald Leaving TSBD" thread at the Ed. Forum, Sean Murphy quite clearly demonstrates that PM's "stoutness" may be an optical illusion. Close examination of the photos show there was a woman standing in front of PM, on a lower step, and there is no clear definition between them; giving the impression their combined forms are one.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
23-02-2014, 05:55 PM
Bob Prudhomme Wrote:In the "Oswald Leaving TSBD" thread at the Ed. Forum, Sean Murphy quite clearly demonstrates that PM's "stoutness" may be an optical illusion. Close examination of the photos show there was a woman standing in front of PM, on a lower step, and there is no clear definition between them; giving the impression their combined forms are one. Bob, that is correct, you can see the woman's foot and leg standing in front of PM. As is nearly always the case, a lack of sufficient resolution is an issue here.
23-02-2014, 06:59 PM
Bob Prudhomme Wrote:In the "Oswald Leaving TSBD" thread at the Ed. Forum, Sean Murphy quite clearly demonstrates that PM's "stoutness" may be an optical illusion. Close examination of the photos show there was a woman standing in front of PM, on a lower step, and there is no clear definition between them; giving the impression their combined forms are one. I don't see that. I see a clear black outline of the entrance's plate glass window around Prayer Man. Also his stoutness is determined by his height compared to the man in the center and his shoulders and torso.
23-02-2014, 09:01 PM
Albert Doyle Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:In the "Oswald Leaving TSBD" thread at the Ed. Forum, Sean Murphy quite clearly demonstrates that PM's "stoutness" may be an optical illusion. Close examination of the photos show there was a woman standing in front of PM, on a lower step, and there is no clear definition between them; giving the impression their combined forms are one. Instead of taking my word for it, or trusting your eyes, why not go and read through the thread at the Ed. Forum? You might learn something.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
23-02-2014, 10:49 PM
Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Instead of taking my word for it, or trusting your eyes, why not go and read through the thread at the Ed. Forum? You might learn something. So you are saying don't trust my eyes trust the Education Forum? Sounds a little too close to "Who are you going to trust, the Education Forum or your own lying eyes" for my tastes, sorry. I know you guys are really trying to put Oswald in the front door, but he ain't there...
23-02-2014, 11:21 PM
Albert Doyle Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Instead of taking my word for it, or trusting your eyes, why not go and read through the thread at the Ed. Forum? You might learn something. Albert, all I am trying to do is to ID PM. Since we know everyone who was on the steps, we should be able to sort it out. To me, the only person unaccounted for is PM. How can that be? Has to be someone, right?
24-02-2014, 01:53 AM
Albert Doyle Wrote:Bob Prudhomme Wrote:Instead of taking my word for it, or trusting your eyes, why not go and read through the thread at the Ed. Forum? You might learn something. I am trying to tell you that Mr. Murphy has put a great deal of work into this matter and it would be worth your while to read some of it.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
24-02-2014, 06:21 AM
I think Sean's work on Prayer Man is very important.
It is is many ways some of the most crucial work to emerge of late in the field. Hands down. To think of some of the people who spoke at the recent 50th conferences, and yet Sean did not? That says a lot. If he is correct, and it sure does seem that he is right now, its a game changer. |
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