It's even worse in trying to set up James Earl Ray and Sirhan. How could Ray possibly know that MLK was ever going to come out on that balcony that evening, or which room he was in? How could Sirhan have known that RFK would come back through the pantry? But they figure that most Americans aren't paying attention and won't ask such questions.
I agree Tracy, the King case is really kind of funny in the regard.
Lisa Pease did a cartoon once showing a guy pounding on the communal bathroom door saying, "I gotta go! I gotta go!" while Ray is saying in the background, "Where the heck is he?"
The truth is, Ray could not have known when he was going to come out and could not have known if someone was outside.
In JFK as David notes, there is no evidence that Oswald knew the motorcade was passing down Houston that day. In fact, the evidence is he was not aware of that at all.
But the WC wants us to think that not only did he know in advance, he got a gun onto the sixth floor when Bonnie Ray Williams was just there eating his chicken lunch.
Just playing devil's advocate here for a sec: Oswald could not have known that the motorcade was going to turn off Main, onto Houston, and then again on Elm Street, its true; but it had been published in the papers Tuesday (2 days before his unexpected trip to Irving) that the motorcade was coming down Main Street. It would be a far more difficult set of shots to make, as the limo would be travelling at right angles to the view out the sniper's nest window, and a bit further away, but still well within rifle range, and no trees to interfere with the shots.
Dealy Plaza is much smaller (in person) than it looks on maps, or than it looms in our memories.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
The article assumes that Oswald needed some sort of plan for him to be at a window at the right time with a rifle - if he indeed solely planned and executed the assassination.
Working backward to when he could have known about the motorcade being brought to his doorstep - the Nov 19th announcement in Dallas Papers - and what the evidence offered says he did,
does not indicate Oswald was in the process of ANY plan to assassinate, while the WCR creates a timeline for him which is completely unworkable...
DJ
ps... thanks again Jim for the oppotunity and support
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
RFK was headed to a room beyond the kitchen to give a press
conference. Someone I knew was waiting there to be part of it for a wire service.
That could have been found out by someone waiting. On the videotape of the podium, RFK starts
the other way off after his speech, and one of his staff tells him to turn
around and go toward the kitchen. Evidently RFK may have
thought he was going to another ballroom that could
be accessed from behind the platform. His lone security aide, Bill Barry, was
helping the pregnant Ethel down from the platform and dropped behind the
senator. So he was unprotected except for Thane Eugene Cesar (ahem). The
kitchen was jammed with people. A security nightmare. And someone had
to have planned the press conference and where it was to be held.
RFK was guided into the pantry by the same CIA killers who 'guided' Sirhan there.
We live in a society of philistines who are intimidated into not acting on this evidence because it would endanger America. Hardly the check and balance system we were lied to about in school.
Quote:And someone had
to have planned the press conference and where it was to be held.
This would seem to be very important.
My hunch would be that there could well be layers of people involved. For example, it could have "been suggested" as an option with another option having "been determined" to be problematic, maybe even a "security problem." The final answer? Nobody really decided it. It just kind of happened.
Just a guess. Maybe this is already out there.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
Quote:And someone had
to have planned the press conference and where it was to be held.
This would seem to be very important.
My hunch would be that there could well be layers of people involved. For example, it could have "been suggested" as an option with another option having "been determined" to be problematic, maybe even a "security problem." The final answer? Nobody really decided it. It just kind of happened.
Just a guess. Maybe this is already out there.
Good point, Lauren. And the most successful way of implementing this to RFK's handlers would be to make them think it was their idea.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
Even if they took the other route, it would been a simple matter to move Sirhan and Caesar down the corridor from the pantry to have them present. Either way the area would have been packed with people:
