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12 Dead in Daytime Paris Attack at Satirical Magazine
Lauren Johnson Wrote:From Veterans Today: Suicided Officers Family Denied Access to Autopsy

Quote:(1/25/2015 8:48 pm Paris time ) Exclusive! Panamza has contacted the mother of Helric Fredou the Police Commissioner charged with preparing a report on the family background of Charlie Hebdo who was found dead with a bullet in the head just hours after the attack.
I asked for the autopsy report and was told: "You won't get it."
Friday, January 16, Panamza published the disturbing testimony of the sister of police officer Helric Fredou, whose mysterious "suicide" continues to be ignored by the national media. Nine days later, it was the mother's turn to bring new revelations.
Fredou's Mother
Contacted by the author, she said that at first she was "enormously shocked" that Minister of the Interior Bernard Cazeneuve had not passed her his condolences. The Interior Minister maintained, she said, an excellent relationship with his deceased son. From 2010 to 2012, the two men were brought together to work at Cherbourg, one as deputy mayor of the city, the other in his capacity as chief commissioner. "I hope one day I cross paths with him to tell him how very disappointed I was," she added.
The Elysee was also (oddly) unresponsive. Helric Fredou had been responsible for among other localités Corrèze including Tulle, historic stronghold of Francois Hollande.
Panamza will soon return with the entirety of her testimony, collected through a telephone interview recorded Saturday, January 24. In the meantime, here are seven key points:
* 1 According to the mother of Helric Fredou, police officers with whom she spoke expressly advised that she would not have access to the autopsy report. The Code of Criminal Procedure, however, provides that in any case of legal autopsy (for suicide or suspicious death), any member of the family can make a request to the prosecutor. "Give it up" is the message being sent to a bereaved mother who "wants to know the truth."
2 * Helric Fredou's service weapon was not equipped with a silencer. Her mother has asked a basic question to his colleagues: "Why didn't you hear anything when he was shot at about midnight?" Laconic reply: "His office was well insulated."
3 * According to his mother, Helric Fredou wanted to make an important phone call after doing two things: debriefing "three investigators" who went out to question the immediate family of a victim of the attack on Charlie Hebdo (in this case, the relatives of Jeannette Bougrab Charb's self-styled girlfriend as was discovered and disclosed by Panamza) and then checking "social networks." It is at this point that Fredou would have made such an important deduction that he "wanted to keep working." Important point: the unidentified "commander" in the office that night wanted to take charge of debriefing investigators and writing the report, but Fredou insisted "It's my job." The direct superior of Helric Fredou is Gil Friedman, director of the Regional Criminal Police, Limoges.
4 * According to police, Helric Fredou raised the barrel of his revolver to his forehead and the bullet remained inside the skull.
5 * Helric Fredou's attending physician, with whom his mother spoke Thursday, January 22, refuses to accept the picture sketched by the handful of articles about Freidou's death that cited his alleged "depression" and supposed "burn-out".
* 6 The mother wanted to know who made the last call to her son. Police reportedly retorted "We are unable to say" before finally claiming that no such call had been made.
7 * "Four Directors" of the police, specifically from Paris, met Helric Fredou's mother to offer condolences and try to convince her that her son was a "suicide".
Finally, another odd fact deserves to be reported here: apart from the author of these lines, NO journalist has contacted from January 8th onward the mother or sister Helric Fredou to try to shed light on the case.
HICHAM HAMZA

Well, nothing suspicious in that lot.....:Laugh: :Sherlock:
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Quote:Well, nothing suspicious in that lot.....:Laugh: :Sherlock:

Obviously, VT is not *cough* reliable. But occasionally something might be of use.
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Je suis Charlie?

The massive show of support of Charlie Hedbow was, we were all told, because of the French love of free speech.

However, the following seems to show that free speech in France is only free if it adheres to acceptable political dogma.

Quote:Charlie Hebdo attack: War of ideas hots up as French police quiz eight-year-old

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Boy claims: "I am not Charlie. I am with the terrorists"

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PARIS

Thursday 29 January 2015

France is divided over the case of an eight-year-old boy who was questioned by police for saying: "I am not Charlie. I am with the terrorists." A moderate Islamic association said that the interrogation of Ahmed and his father was proof of a "collective hysteria" since 17 people died in terrorist attacks in Paris three weeks ago.

The education minister Najat Vallaud-Belkacem said the boy's school had reacted "entirely correctly" by drawing his behaviour to the attention of education authorities and the police. She said that there was no question of legal action against the child but that a complaint had been made against his father for an allegedly "brutal" attitude towards school staff.
Arguments for and against the questioning of Ahmed became the hottest subject on French social media for most of the day. The boy and his father were ordered to go to a police station in Nice on Wednesday. On 8 January, the day after the attack on Charlie Hebdo, Ahmed refused to take part in a nationwide two-minute silence.

He was reported to have said in class and then again in the playground: "I am not Charlie. I am with the terrorists. The Muslims were quite right. The journalists deserved to die." The child was questioned for 30 minutes by police. He was then allowed to play with toys while his father answered police questions.
Under questioning, Ahmed said that he did not know the meaning of the word "terrorist". His father condemned what the boy was reported to have said but made a formal complaint about the decision to interrogate his son. "It's crazy. This was out of all proportion," said the family's lawyer, Sefen Guez Guez. "They took seriously the words of an eight-year-old child, who doesn't understand what he is saying."
[Image: web-paris-25-getty.jpg]People hold up placards reading 'I am Charlie' during a gathering in Nice (Getty Images)
It was Mr Guez Guez who first revealed the questioning of the boy on Wednesday in a tweet. The lawyer is close to the pressure group Collective against Islamophobia in France. In his tweets, he claimed there had been a formal accusation against Ahmed of "apology for terrorism". Police and education officials insisted yesterday the interrogation had been informal.
They said that there had been problems in the past with the boy's behaviour in school and with the attitude of his father. Mr Guez Guez has formally accused the headmaster of the school of acting violently towards Ahmed after his remarks something authorities deny.
Warning: Some viewers may find this footage distressing

In the wake of this month's jihadist mayhem, the government has created a new website www.stop-djihadisme.gouv.fr to counter Islamist propaganda on the internet.
A two-minute video placed on the site warns that joining Isis or other jihadist groups is not a passport to paradise but a "ticket to hell". It shows scenes of dead and injured children, crucifixions and the dumping of dead bodies in pits.
[Image: eu-flag.jpg]The EU needs to deepen co-operation with the internet industry to tackle terrorism (Getty Images)
The EU, meanwhile, called for more help from internet companies to fight online terrorist propaganda. The Home Affairs Commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos told reporters that the EU needs to deepen co-operation with the internet industry "and to strengthen the commitment of social media platforms in order to reduce illegal content online". "We are now taking this co-operation further by deepening dialogue ... in order to develop concrete, workable solutions," he said.
But policing the vast amount of material posted on social media is a major challenge. Omar Ramadan, head of the Radicalisation Awareness Network, a European group tackling extremism, told the Associated Press removing terror-related content from the internet was not enough. "If you're only taking down content and not worrying about the people watching content, they will be searching for content elsewhere," Mr Ramadan said.
In an interview with a Dutch newspaper, the EU counter-terrorism co-ordinator, Gilles de Kerchove, reportedly urged the bloc's nations to hire PR experts to produce counter-propaganda.
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The following webpage (link) has some interesting facts on Charlie Hedbo, in particular that it shared the same address as the Prefecture of Police. Other information presented must be treated with more care, I think.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
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David Guyatt Wrote:The following webpage (link) has some interesting facts on Charlie Hedbo, in particular that it shared the same address as the Prefecture of Police. Other information presented must be treated with more care, I think.

Some interesting information...and some anti-Jewish diatribe too. The address changes would have to be looked into further to convince me of anything suspicious. If the first attack was real [granted this person thinks it was false-flag], it would not be so strange to move into a large building that also housed the police [as a means of some protection from other fire-bombings]. If it was false-flag, then yes, it does seem suspicious, of course. The anti-Jewish bias of the blogger made it hard for me to see through to other possibly important facts he had gathered. In fact, CH had offended all three Judeo-Christian religions. One can make an argument that they picked on Islam more. I haven't counted and don't know if that is so, though have seen it often quoted. The second attack does seem very strange and has many unexplained features that have NOT been explained by the officials sufficiently - in some cases, at all. It is an interesting idea to turn it around and say that CH's staff was part of the false-flag, but hard to believe as so many died so savagely. All information should be explored, however, to see where it leads.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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For anyone interested here is an attempt at debunking the Chalie Hebdo false flag hypothesis:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/201...150126.php


I think he has some things right but overall I find his arguments quite unconvincing.
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I think Engdahl hits the nail on the head here. Assuming there were secret negotiations between Merkel, Hollande and Putin ahead of their joint meeting to arrange peace, then it is very likely the US learned of this and the result was the Charlie Hedbo event.

If I read the situation correctly, this means that Poroschenko and Ukraine will do their best to breach the ceasefire and ratchet things up, on behalf of the US - who won't swallow this, I think.

Quote:NATO: Atlantic Bridge is Falling Down…


Washington created something called NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in 1949 to weld Western Europe firmly to the future foreign policies of Washington, however destructive that might prove to the genuine interests of Germany, France, Italy and the other nations of Europe. In 1986 the twelve nations of the then-European Economic Community modified the 1957 Treaty of Rome and signed the Single European Act. That mandated the creation of a single EEC market by end of 1992, and set forth rules for European Political Cooperation, the forerunner of the European Union's Common Foreign and Security Policy.
Then on November 9, 1989, an event of historic dimension intervened to disrupt the EEC strategy for a single market. Gorbachev's USSR surrendered the German Democratic Republic to the West. The Cold War was de facto over. Germany would be reunited. The West had apparently won. Most Europeans were jubilant. Many believed the decades of living on the brink of possible nuclear war were over. The emerging Europe seemed proud, confident of the future. NATO was an entity created by Washington, in the words of its first General Secretary, Lord Ismay, to "keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down."
European Defense Pillar or US NATO?
The Maastricht Treaty, a document with fatal flaws, was introduced at a meeting of the EEC in December 1991. A shocked Helmut Kohl was told by France's Mitterrand and Britain's Margaret Thatcher that Germany must agree to creation of a single currency to control the Bundesbank. That became today's Euro and an independent supranational European Central Bank. It was blackmail as precondition for their accepting German unification. The Germans swallowed hard and signed.
What was little discussed at the time was that the Maastricht Treaty also included a section mandating establishment for the first time of a Common Foreign and Security Policy. The twelve nations signed the treaty and intense discussions were underway of establishing a European defense pillar independent of NATO. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the raison d'être for NATO was gone. The Warsaw Pact had dissolved. Washington had assured Gorbachev that NATO would never extend to the east.
Bush Destroys EU Defense Pillar
US President George H.W. Bush was a man who left a blood-soaked legacy, from his early years in Washington that likely included playing a key role as CIA agent in Dallas Texas in November 22, 1963 in the assassination of JFK. He went on to head the CIA in the 1970's and to lure Saddam Hussein to occupy Kuwait in 1990 to provide the excuse for a bloody war Operation Desert Storm against Iraq.
As President, Bush also set in motion the events that would result in the destruction of Yugoslavia beginning the 1990's, much as Washington is destroying Ukraine today. The central purpose behind that US-incited war that ravaged the Balkans for a decade, was to make clear to the EU nations that NATO, under US Pentagon control, would remain and, in fact, would go east. In effect, he used the Yugoslav war to destroy the emerging threat of an independent EU defense capacity, the EU defense pillar. As US Presidential adviser and Trilateral Commission former founder, Zbigniew Brzezinski openly described Washington's view of Germany, she was a "vassal" of US imperial power, not a sovereign nation.
In 1999 Hungary, Poland, and the Czech Republic were officially invited in Washington to join NATO as the dismemberment of Yugoslavia was capped by President Bill Clinton's shameful and illegal bombing of Serbia in the so-called Kosovo War that year, with the even more shameful participation of German Foreign Minister, the Hungarian butcher's son, Joschka Fischer.
By 2004 Washington was gleefully bringing NATO to Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia. It was also secretly preparing its now infamous Color Revolution coups in Georgia and Ukraine that would being in US-chosen candidates, the corrupt Viktor Yushchenko in Kiev's so-called Orange revolution and Mikhail Saakashvili in the Georgia Rose Revolution. Both presidents pledged to join NATO as part of their campaign. Little wonder that by 2007, as Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld announced the Pentagon would install ballistic missile devices in Poland and the Czech Republic aimed de facto at Russia, Moscow was becoming more than a little uneasy about being choked on its strategic perimeter by NATO and a military alliance that ultimately brought the world's sole superpower to the gates of Moscow.
A German French Ukraine intervention
When the foreign ministers of Germany and France intervened in a desperate last-minute effort to broker a compromise in Kiev on February 21, 2014 to avoid civil war there they explicitly excluded one interested party from the talksthe US Government. They won a compromise that lasted less than 48 hours before CIA-backed snipers in Kiev ignited riot and panic causing the democratically-elected (a forgotten point in the slavish German media version of events) President, Viktor Yanukovich to flee for his life.
The next day, the Obama Administration, led by State Department hawk Victoria "Fuck the EU" Nuland, US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt, and legions of CIA operatives inside the Maidan Square protests openly installed their hand-picked puppets, using overt neo-nazis of Pravy Sektor and Svoboda Party to do so. George Friedman, head of Stratfor, a US strategic consultancy whose clients include the Pentagon and CIA, as well as Israeli agencies, told the Russian Kommersant in a December interview, the US-organized coup d'etat in Ukraine was "the most blatant coup in history."
When Washington spat in the face not only of Germany and France and the EU, but in the face of Russia and of Ukraine itself, by dictating the persons to run the new Kiev coup regime, headed by their choice of Prime Minister, reputed high-ranking Scientologst, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Germany and France swallowed hard. They groveled behind the lead of the Washington warhawks in the Obama Administration. The EU unanimously voted US-dictated sanctions repeatedly against Russia after the March, 2014 referendum on Crimea. German industry protested openly. Merkel's government bowed before NATO and Washington, and the German economy began to go into recession along with the rest of the EU.
Now something highly unusual is taking place. France and Germany are openly again defying Obama's Washington. On the night of February 4, Merkel and French President Hollande quickly decided to fly together to Moscow to meet Russia's Putin. The purpose, as Putin spokesman stated was that the, "leaders of the three states will discuss what specifically the countries can do to contribute to speedy end of the civil war in the southeast of Ukraine, which has escalated in recent days and resulted in many casualties."
The most interesting part of the quick trip is that the "vassal" heads, Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande did not ask permission from Washington first according to a French government source. Announcing the spontaneous Moscow trip, Hollande told the press, "Together with Angela Merkel we have decided to take a new initiative."
More interesting, their "new initiative" comes as US Secretary of State John Kerry was in Kiev meeting President Poroschenko to discuss possible US weapons deliveries to Kiev, Washington's preferred brand of "diplomacy" at the moment. The Moscow talks between Putin, Merkel and Hollande reportedly followed "secret" talks between Paris, Berlin and Moscow.
In early December, Hollande made a surprise visit to Moscow to meet with Putin on Ukraine. At that time the French President declared, "I believe that we have to avoid having more walls' that separate us. At this moment we have to be able to overpass the obstacles and find solutions." Washington was not at all happy with that. There is strong suspicion in certain circles that the January 7 false flag attack on the Paris Satirical magazine, Charlie Hebdo was the reply of the Washington-Tel Aviv war faction to the Hollande diplomacy.
The latest joint German-French diplomatic moves as John Kerry was in Kiev discussing US weapons for Ukraine. Le Nouvel Observateur journalist Vincent Jauvert says Hollande and Merkel's suddent decision to talk with Putin in Moscow came as an attempt "to get ahead of the Americans who are trying to impose their solution to the problem on Westerners: a transfer of weapons to Ukraine." He said the two leaders went to Kiev straight after Kerry, as they "distrust the American administration," and want to "present their diplomatic solutions just before US Vice President Joe Biden presents the US plan of sending lethal weapons to Kiev at the Munich security conference on Saturday."
The coming weeks will clearly be decisive for world peace. To parody an old children's song I sang as a kid, Atlantic Bridge is Falling Down, Falling Down, Falling Down…(To be sung to the melody of London Bridge is falling down). It is time for a new, stable bridge in its place, but that won't come from the Munich Security Conference message of Joe Biden.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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The below is an older article that I don't believe made it to this thread, so here it is.

From The Constantine Report:

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Former Wall St. Journal Editor & Reagan Administration Official Says Paris Terror was Orchestrated by CIA and French Authorities

By /January 10th, 2015no responses

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"… The CIA has apparently resurrected a policy that it followed against Europeans during the post-WW II era when the US spy agency would carry out attacks in European states and blame them on communist groups. …"

Jan 10, 2015

A former White House official says the terrorist attack that killed 12 people on Wednesday in Paris was a false flag operation "designed to shore up France's vassal status to Washington."
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, who was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, made the remarks in an article published on Thursday.
"The suspects can be both guilty and patsies. Just remember all the terrorist plots created by the FBI that served to make the terrorism threat real to Americans," he wrote.
He said that the French economy is suffering from the US-imposed sanctions against Russia. "Shipyards are impacted from being unable to deliver Russian orders due to France's vassalage status to Washington, and other aspects of the French economy are being adversely impacted by sanctions that Washington forced its NATO puppet states to apply to Russia."
Dr. Roberts stated that French President Francois Hollande this week said that the sanctions against Russia should end. "This is too much foreign policy independence on France's part for Washington."
[Image: download-2-e1420918269611.jpg]He added that the CIA has apparently resurrected a policy that it followed against Europeans during the post-WW II era when the US spy agency would carry out attacks in European states and blame them on communist groups.
Dr. Roberts said now the US agencies have planned false flag operations in Europe to create hatred against Muslims and bring European countries under Washington's sphere of influence.
He noted that "the attack on Charlie Hebdo was an inside job and that people identified by NSA as hostile to the Western wars against Muslims are going to be framed for an inside job designed to pull France firmly back under Washington's thumb."
The widely read columnist stated that the US "government tells Americans whatever story the government puts together and sits and laughs at the gullibility of the public."




The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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I keep looking at the Amedy Coulibaly killing (the Youtube video) and keep asking myself if it was an execution? I am fairly convinced it was.

In the below clip, which I've posted before, the case is made that his hands were handcuffed. Is that a true and accurate statement? Well, whether or not traditional police handcuffs were used I think it apparent that his hands were cuffed/restrained in some manner - and for me, the evidence for this is the way he turns as he flees to the main door to ensure that his back takes the brunt of the blow against the doorjamb. The turn was instinctive and the reason for that was that his hands were restrained and therefore turning and taking the force of the impending collision on his back would've minimized any damage - and because it was an instinctive reaction there was no thought of police bullets being fired at him by the score.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mccemET9CP4&list=PLRN_FZnErVYGUJrpfCH9S5e_ 3cs4bVgTd[/video]

From the website Liveleak.com are some stills extracted from the foregoing footage that go into further detail.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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