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Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City
Also, I would like to comment on the ever expanding role of Dave Morales.

If one recalls, Morales first surfaced in Gaeton Fonzi's fine 1993 book, The Last Investigation.

There the clinching quote, through Morales' attorney Robert Walton, was this: "Well, we took care of that son of a bitch, didn't we?" (p. 390)



Please note this quote does not necessarily imply that Morales was part of the plot to kill President Kennedy, or that he even had first hand knowledge of it.

What it does imply is that Morales knew people who told him they were involved. But through time, through David Talbot's book Brothers and the documentary, RFK Must Die by Shane O'Sullivan, the quote has been embellished and expanded in both specificity and quantity. In its O'Sullivan version Walton quotes Morales thusly: "I was in Dallas when we got that mother fucker, and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard." [Emphasis added.]

Hmm. From Fonzi's version in 1993 and hearing about one assassination, now Morales is actually in on both of them. With the way things grow in the JFK case -- which is where Morales originated -- what will be next? How about: "I was in Memphis when we got that Black Messiah King!" (Quoting my review of RFK Must Die!)

Well, I missed. It's now Morales in MC. But still not too late to get him into Memphis.
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Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Also, I would like to comment on the ever expanding role of Dave Morales.

If one recalls, Morales first surfaced in Gaeton Fonzi's fine 1993 book, The Last Investigation.

There the clinching quote, through Morales' attorney Robert Walton, was this: "Well, we took care of that son of a bitch, didn't we?" (p. 390)



Please note this quote does not necessarily imply that Morales was part of the plot to kill President Kennedy, or that he even had first hand knowledge of it.

What it does imply is that Morales knew people who told him they were involved. But through time, through David Talbot's book Brothers and the documentary, RFK Must Die by Shane O'Sullivan, the quote has been embellished and expanded in both specificity and quantity. In its O'Sullivan version Walton quotes Morales thusly: "I was in Dallas when we got that mother fucker, and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard." [Emphasis added.]

Hmm. From Fonzi's version in 1993 and hearing about one assassination, now Morales is actually in on both of them. With the way things grow in the JFK case -- which is where Morales originated -- what will be next? How about: "I was in Memphis when we got that Black Messiah King!" (Quoting my review of RFK Must Die!)

Well, I missed. It's now Morales in MC. But still not too late to get him into Memphis.


Quote:Please note this quote does not necessarily imply that Morales was part of the plot to kill President Kennedy, or that he even had first hand knowledge of it.

I'll have to strongly disagree with that statement, I know for a fact that David was in Dallas on the day of Kennedy's assassination, a guy like that would have no need to be in Dallas to be told by someone within the company they just whacked the president, in-fact, that's not how it works, people don't go around telling others in the company what they did, didn't do or what work they carried out unless it was through their handler, in case of a mole.

I know for a fact through several individuals including someone I promised I would NOT use his name who was apart of the Bayo-Pawley mission, and is still alive at the age of 94 who told me my father had David's photo, including Mr. Junco who drove my father to the CIA's Headquarters in Miami. Mr. Junco is first person witness to the photos, and that's as far as he will go on that subject.

Quote:What it does imply is that Morales knew people who told him they were involved. But through time, through David Talbot's book Brothers

Just how well, does/did David Talbot know/knew David Morales or the many Cubans in Miami?

Don't miss judge Morales, he was there, when the Diem brothers had to go.
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Quote:I know for a fact through several individuals including someone I promised I would NOT use his name

Are there any other facts you can use to reinforce your statement about Morales beyond the secret facts you can never ever share? I'm all ears.
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Richard James also seemed to support some involvement by Morales. In many events.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

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There are a few things I've read or seen from different researchers that emphasise the probability of him being involved (Daniel Sheehan goes so far as to call him one of the shooters, Fonzi [I think] dryly notes the long line of military personnel that visited Fonzi's hometown to pay their respects circa Morales' funeral) but any factual confirmation beyond that memorable conversation in Fonzi's book would be great.
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David Talbot interviewed Morales' lifelong friend, Ruben Carbajal (there's also a filmed interview with him in an RFK documentary). The Carbajal family owned a popular Mexican restaurant named El Molino that was frequented by Barry Goldwater and other Arizona VIPs; they embraced Morales as one of their own. Carbajal recalled his friend "Didi" with fondness and admiration for his CIA exploits. "When some asshole needed to be killed, Didi was the man to do it," he told Talbot. "You got that right. It was his job. He was very patriotic. He believed in his job to protect the United States and he was going to go after anyone who was against it. He didn't give a damn. If his own brother would have talked against the United States, he would have blown his ass apart."

Carbajal said that "maybe" Morales was in Dallas and Los Angeles at the time of the assassinations, but he might have been visiting family members in L.A. In any case, said Carbajal, neither he nor Morales mourned RFK's death. "We didn't give a shit. Good riddance. Whoever did it, I want to thank them thank you very much." Carbajal says that the CIA killed JFK, without naming any individuals. Morales and Tony Sforza both told him the agency was behind the Dallas plot. The Kennedys got what was coming to them, he insisted. "Kennedy screwed up, caused all those deaths at the Bay of Pigs, he pulls off the planes, the men get caught on the ground. You want me to respect a President like that? Or an asshole like his brother?"

He added that the Kennedys had given "the damn nation to the blacks." "If the son of a bitch caused the deaths of all these people, he deserved to die. You should never go around lying to your people. You go back on your word, you ain't no good. My dad taught me that. I don't give a shit who it is. If it was my own father and he lied to me, he die. Cause you're no good. I was brought up that way. And Didi was that way too, see?" He suspects that Morales sudden illness and death was caused by his CIA associates, who feared he might talk to the HSCA. "I think that's why they knocked him off, cause they didn't want him to say nothing. You ask him a question, like you ask me a question, and he got right to the point, boom, no horse-shitting around…You want the truth, here it is." He told Carbajal he had been drinking Scotch with agency colleagues before leaving Washington for home in Arizona, where he had the heart attack. (Brothers)
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That's what I mean, this is how its morphed. Pretty soon someone will talk to someone else who knew him and, presto, Morales will be in Memphis.

But I have to add, if you tallied up all the CIA guys who were happy that JFK got killed and suspected the Agency was involved, you would have a crowd equivalent to Wal Mart on Black Thursday.

(Although the attempt to put him at the Ambassador did not turn out too well. )
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Quote:Carbajal says that the CIA killed JFK, without naming any individuals. Morales and Tony Sforza both told him the agency was behind the Dallas plot. The Kennedys got what was coming to them, he insisted. "Kennedy screwed up, caused all those deaths at the Bay of Pigs


Where have I heard that before?


Quote:But I have to add, if you tallied up all the CIA guys who were happy that JFK got killed and suspected the Agency was involved, you would have a crowd equivalent to Wal Mart on Black Thursday.


Can someone please explain how my father got a hold of a photo of Morales and others when Morales was in Dallas just three weeks after the Diem brothers assassination?


Quote:Are there any other facts you can use to reinforce your statement about Morales beyond the secret facts you can never ever share? I'm all ears.


Well, lets see, of coarse if I get into, this person told me this, or this person told me that, then no one's going to believe me anyways, is it because he said, she said? Carbajal may have been close friends with David, but, there are also others still alive today that were very close to David during JM/WAVE. Ramon Molina and Elias Cesar who also knew David well had confirmed what I was told by this person who was apart of the Bayo-Pawley mission. Not to mention that Mr. Junco whom I talked to told me about the trip he took with my father to the CIA's Headquarters in Miami where my father (impersonated) himself as a CIA agent to gain access where he stole the only known photographs of the men involved. Mr Junco told me that David was among those photos in Dallas standing outside a motel room.

But, what we'll do, is continue to have sightings of Elvis, Micheal Jackson and David Morales at every shopping mall across America.
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You are saying that at the JM/WAVE station, there was kept a photo of the guys involved in the JFK assassination standing outside a motel room in Dallas?

If that is the case then I would like to ask:

How do you know it was Dallas?

How do you know it was in or around 11/22/63?

Did you talk to anyone around Morales to see if he had an alibi?

Why would they allow themselves to be photographed?


Why would anyone keep the photograph after the fact? Whatever happened to operational security?

Nobody at JM/WAVE said, "Hey, this is kind of dumb. Everyone thinks the CIA is involved with this anyway. Let's incinerate this picture."
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Perhaps, this recorded phone conversation can help clear up some of your questions. It's the same guy I video recorded just last week.

The short version.

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/Ru...L26eui5trg


And, the long conversation:

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/Ru...E4zfpGwJvA
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