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Peter Lemkin Wrote:When you have a trapped and surrounded suspect, you can [and in the past would] wait until they ran out of food and water....now, you send in a robot to blow them up...the real reason is you don't want them to be able to tell who they were and what their motives and connections were - nor be available for trial. Micah Johnson is being named as the single shooter...while other evidence is of AT LEAST three shooters. I think any of this 'information' should be taken with a grain of salt. I can't prove, but strongly suspect, that the 'use' of Dallas for this spectacle is not a coincidence [down to the Black Police Chief], and that the truth is being 'spun', and we are NOT hearing it......
Sadly, expect MUCH more of similar in the USA this summer and beyond. Sadly, a race [and class] 'war' is coming...one that has been simmering since the founding of the USA.
Yep!
For some months now I have expected that this election would have background of a race and or ISIS attacking. I feel ill.
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:When you have a trapped and surrounded suspect, you can [and in the past would] wait until they ran out of food and water....now, you send in a robot to blow them up...the real reason is you don't want them to be able to tell who they were and what their motives and connections were - nor be available for trial. Micah Johnson is being named as the single shooter...while other evidence is of AT LEAST three shooters. I think any of this 'information' should be taken with a grain of salt. I can't prove, but strongly suspect, that the 'use' of Dallas for this spectacle is not a coincidence [down to the Black Police Chief], and that the truth is being 'spun', and we are NOT hearing it......
Sadly, expect MUCH more of similar in the USA this summer and beyond. Sadly, a race [and class] 'war' is coming...one that has been simmering since the founding of the USA.
Yep!
For some months now I have expected that this election would have background of a race and or ISIS attacking. I feel ill.
Now, as with most of the mass shootings, the 'officials' can simply state their 'version' and there is no living suspect to contradict nor be present for trial - even their identity and background can be invented and their motive sculpted for the needed propaganda angle. Honest police would have tried with all of their power to have captured any shooters alive; those knowing that there was something not quite kosher going on would want him dead, even when he no longer presented a danger and they only had to wait him out. I'd say their robot assassination should also be tried in Court as an illegal and unnecessary murder, but it won't happen nor even be contemplated. Prosecutors don't think that way; and they think the Police always make the right choices, and give them a free pass no matter what they do.
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Looks like Dallas specialises in lone nuts too.
So what happened to the various snipers? Others saw them too. No just one lone nut. will be interesting to see the autopsy results.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Looks like Dallas specialises in lone nuts too.
So what happened to the various snipers? Others saw them too. No just one lone nut. will be interesting to see the autopsy results.
One of the 'other shooters' early on was said to have been shot and killed...has his body now disappeared? An innocent bystander? This is now, in part [at minimum] a false scenario....perhaps worse. The autopsy results can be controlled by the 'authorities' and besides, having blown him up with a robot with a bomb, there will only be disconnected parts. The official first version was of at least three shooters from high buildings........the person blown up was in a two story building.
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09-07-2016, 07:30 AM
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NOTE: I do NOT agree with some things in the video below - in fact, I disagree vehemently with some...but it does raise some questions related to a possible false flag event.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:The official first version was of at least three shooters from high buildings.
I watched the initial coverage carefully, I never heard "three shooters." I heard "triangulating fire from high buildings." You need 2 shooters to "triangulate fire" (that means 2 guys separated by some distance shooting at the same target) and occupy a plural number of buildings. It means the same officer or group of officers is taking fire from more than one direction.
There were also early experts CNN listening to the gunshots and calling 1 set a "long gun" and 1 set a "semi-automatic." You can read my earlier post for that description. The officers were not armed with rifles, at least until the SWAT team cornered that one guy in a building. There is also the mystery of the man/woman team that sped off from downtown and were apprehended after a high speed chase on the freeway. Last I heard, they were "both still in custody" and they "weren't cooperating with the investigation."
I think its entirely possible for 1 sniper to leave his perch, jump in his Tahoe, drive to a different location, begin a street level gunfight, and retreat into a 2 story parking garage to get blown up by a robot (assuming there's enough time between gunfights). It isn't possible for the officers to take sniper fire from more than one direction if there's only one bad guy.
I would also like to point out that the police chief was reporting that one guy was dead (IIRC it started off as a self inflicted gunshot wound) while the hours long standoff was still pending.
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On the internet are official and semi-official plus MSM reports [allegedly from official sources] of 2,3, 4 and even 5 shooters. I don't pretend to know, but at one time the Police Chief said multiple and I think once he said three - see the video above. Yes, it only takes two for crossfire, but I strongly suspect this was not the actions of one man and his being killed is an endless pattern. They had him surrounded and could have waited for him to surrender - but they wanted him dead...why? I think so he couldn't speak or be at trial and they could create a legend of him of their own making.
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Don't you need three shooters to triangulate? (triangle = tri = three)
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As predicted, the MSM and a lot of politician 'types' are saying you have to choose: either you are for the Police not being killed senselessly, or you are for 'Black Lives Matter' - and that you can NOT be for both! Classic propaganda and divide and conquer / set the false parameters of the false debate et al. ::willynilly::
As far as real or reliable information as to what actually happened and why there is very little...odd in and of itself. Even the usual pundits who would try to tackle this event have yet to opine on it, given that there is little to go on and what there is is very contradictory and confusing. I hope some clarity comes before the NEXT such event [they average one to four a month by my count for multiple shootings, and about every other day for police shootings of unarmed Black men for the crime of being Black.]
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Tracy Riddle Wrote:Don't you need three shooters to triangulate? (triangle = tri = three)
No the "triangle" is two shooters and one target.
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