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David Healy Wrote:an entire new venue is needed ... focusing on, "is there enough data/evidence available right now to make a new case for CONSPIRACY..."
WRONG!!!
The "old" case for conspiracy PROVES conspiracy to the degree of metaphysical certitude.
What is needed is adoption of a war footing to communicate the ESTABLISHED case for the REALITY of conspiracy.
I can think of no other distinction more important to the cause.
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Jack White Wrote:The differences of COPA and Lancer cannot be reconciled.
This, alas, is all too true.
Jack White Wrote:I know that Lancer has been infiltrated countless times.
I don't doubt you, Jack. I was about to ask you to be specific, but I don't want this site to get bogged down in a Lancer/COPA pissing contest.
Jack White Wrote:COPA is so small that I know of no provocateurs.
As above, only in terms of the pissing contest. Then again, maybe the COPA provocateurs are better at the game.
Jack White Wrote:COPA pushes more genuine research than Lancer, which has strong prejudiced views and will not allow contrary views (such as Zfilm alteration).
In all fairness, Lancer did sponsor a very powerful and lengthy Z-film alteration workshop and presentation at which you and I were present. I haven't been following them very closely since George Michael passed. Can you fill me in on the change?
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You are correct about the conference where Jim Fetzer was the
moderator on the Z film. Tink and allies showed up and made
it a circus. At that point Debra tearfully intervened and sided
with Tink on authenticity, as you know since you were there.
Since then she resists (on her forum) any discussion regarding
authentiity. The debate continued on the Simkin forum, but
was not allowed on Lancer.
Jack
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Okay,
This is your last chance to sign this petition before copies are personally handed to Rep. Towns and Clay. Please pass it on to anyone you know who would like to sign it.
We hope to have an official response to this request within a week or two after it is delivered.
There are over 200 signatures, and we would like to get a few more because a few are dups and bogus, though surprisingly, a very small percentage.
We will also add a few names to the petition that will be handed in, of people who don't want their name posted on the internet, but want it included on the petition, which will become an official document that will be entered into the committee's records.
Thanks to all who have participated, and I think we will know if we are successful within a few weeks.
BK
To: U.S. Congress
Congressional Oversight of JFK Act
To: Rep. Edolphis Towns, Chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee
and Rep. William Lacy Clay, Chairman of the Sub-committee on information policy, census and NARA and members of the relevant committee.
In order to regain the public’s confidence in government, which has been in decline since November 1963, Congress passed the JFK Act of 1992, requiring the release of all government records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
Since the last time Congress conducted a hearing on the JFK Act (June 4, 1997), neither the House Oversight Committee, nor the responsible subcommittee have held one hearing on this issue, despite the destruction of Secret Service documents, the loss of national security records and the continued withholding of records that have been ordered released to the public.
It is imperative that Congress take some action to ensure that the law is enforced and the work mandated by the JFK Assassination Records Act is completed. Therefore,
We, the undersigned citizens of the United States and the free world, do hereby request the House Oversight Committee do its duty and hold public oversight hearings on the JFK Act.
b.k
http://www.petitiononline.com/JFKACT/petition.html
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Glad I saw this, I have reposted it on facebook as there are many assassination critics there, hopefully will get more signatures.
Sorry to hear you'll not be attending CD, I don't expect to ever see Lancer and COPA unite. Don't know the history as to why there are two groups.
Typical of the research community that has long been divison- filled.
Dawn
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From John Judge:
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The Coalition on Political Assassinations presents:
OPEN SECRETS: THE ASSASSINATIONS OF THE ‘60s
15th Annual Regional Conference, November 20-22, Dallas, TX
Latest evidence and research, authors, medical and ballistic experts, academics and researchers into modern political assassinations, including Malcolm X, John F. Kennedy, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and Robert Kennedy. Resource room with books, DVDs and digital collections. Films and presentations. Join us.
Speakers:
Dr. Cyril Wecht, M.D., J.D., former president American Academy of Forensic Sciences
Jim Douglass, author of JFK and the Unspeakable
Walt Brown, author of Master Analytic Chronology: The Death of President Kennedy
Russ Baker, author of Family of Secrets
John Armstrong, author of Harvey & Lee will be available to sign his book
Randy Benson, award-winning filmmaker, showing excerpts from The Searchers
T Carter, author an upcoming book Jerry Ray: A Memoir of Injustice
Ben Rogers, curator of the Penn Jones collection at Baylor University's Poague Library
Jim DiEugenio, author of Destiny Betrayed and editor of Probe
Lisa Pease, co-author of The Assassinations and editor of Probe
Robert Groden, author of The Search for Lee Harvey Oswald and Absolute Proof
Other speakers to be announced
Schedule:
Friday, November 20
COPA keynote speaker
7:00 pm, Mezzanine level
Adolphus Hotel, 1321 Commerce Street, (214) 742-8200
Movies, 10:00 pm, Second floor Rear
Hotel Lawrence, Houston & Jackson Sts., just off Dealey Plaza
Resource room open on 2nd floor rear Friday to Sunday, books and DVDs, authors
Saturday, November 21
Speakers 9:00 am – 5:00 pm, Second floor Rear
Movies 10:00 pm, Second floor Rear
Hotel Lawrence, Houston & Jackson Sts.
Sunday, November 22 46th anniversary
Speakers and discussions 9:00 am – 12:00 pm, Second floor Rear
Hotel Lawrence, Houston & Jackson Sts.
12:30 pm Moment of Silence
Commemorating the Assassination of President Kennedy
Grassy Knoll, Dealey Plaza, speakers following
Union Station and West End stations on DART rail.
All events open to public.
Registration at door - $60 for all events, $25 per day, $20 for Adolphus events
Coalition on Political Assassinations, PO Box 772, Washington, DC 20044
-- Regards, TOM BLACKWELL, PO Box 25403, Dallas, Texas 75225 b..
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Will it, or parts of it, be recorded and posted on the website for those who can't travel there?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Perhaps john g will know....i do know some past copa dvds are available for purchase or free with a donation......they are extremely interesting to review ....better than like in person nothing changes ...unless you have a mouse with a recorder sitting on the mike or the type of equipment they have access to....b
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The COPA Halloween Test - October 28 deadline time is running out!
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Tue, October 13, 2009 12:43:24 AMFrom:Copa <copa@starpower.net>
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Friends,
Over the years, the Coalition on Political Assassinations has always tried to tell you about everything you wanted to ask, but were afraid to know. Here is a test you can do to be sure you will make it through Halloween this year.
The 15th annual COPA Regional Meeting in Dallas will be held from November 20-22 with the best new evidence, great speakers, the latest and the earlier books and other resources on assassinations, our Moment of Silence on the Grassy Knoll, movie nights, and a visit to the Penn Jones collection at Baylor University. Registration is $60 at the gate for all events, day rates optional.
Reservations at the Hotel Lawrence, just off Dealey Plaza are available at the "COPA 2009" discount rate of $79/night, single/double. But you have to call them by October 28, two nights before Halloween to be sure of getting rooms. If you have the courage to reserve rooms near the scene of the crime, to get the truth about political assassinations in America, then you will be ready for all the frights of Halloween. So, go on, take the test and join us in Dallas this year for a really good scare!
Hope to see you there - John Judge for COPA
-- John Judge
Coalition on Political Assassinations (COPA)
PO Box 772
Washington, DC 20044
copa@starpower.net
Check out our new website:
www.politicalassassinations.com
Annual meeting in Dallas in November Hotel Lawrence - 214-761-9090 - discount room reservations
Speakers, films, books, resources, email for details
National organization of medical and ballistic experts, academics and authors, researchers and interested individuals investigating major political assassinations in America and abroad. Responsible for creation and implementation of the JFK Assassination Records Act. Promoting a Martin Luther King Records Act and a grand jury process to reopen all the major assassinations.
We are not allergic to donations, donations NOT tax deductible. DVD set of last year's COPA meeting in Dallas for any donation of $50 or more.:call:b
Myra Bronstein
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Bernice Moore Wrote:Okay,
This is your last chance to sign this petition before copies are personally handed to Rep. Towns and Clay. Please pass it on to anyone you know who would like to sign it.
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We, the undersigned citizens of the United States and the free world, do hereby request the House Oversight Committee do its duty and hold public oversight hearings on the JFK Act.
b.k
http://www.petitiononline.com/JFKACT/petition.html
Thanks for making this available Bernice.
Hope a lot of people sign it.
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