26-05-2010, 08:13 PM
Helen Reyes Wrote:Two (or three) questions:
1) Didn't Kennedy support Nasser in Egypt and the general cause of Arab nationalism to the extent that he refused a military adventure by Israel, France and the UK to invade? And wasn't this anathema to National Oil of New Jersey?
2) When did de Gaulle pull France out of NATO?
3) When exactly was the failed "generals' coup" in Morocco in the 1960s or 70s?
1) Eisenhower and Suez? I'm sure just about everything Kennedy did was anathema to NO of NJ.
The British establishment split over Kennedy, the majority were admiring, if frustrated by the slow pace of change. A significant portion, however, within intelligence, the military, multi-nationals and those politicos and media on retainers, sided with CIA.
The Israeli establishment loathed JFK for his stance on nuclear proliferation and, arguably most important of all, his support for the Johnson Plan:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou..._62_2.html
It would appear something akin to bad form to mention the Johnson Plan in public: Happily, the only form I'm interested in concerns Everton and the nags.
2) France formally withdrew from NATO in 1966. De Gaulle's detestation of NATO and its precursors was a thing of constancy and splendour. One example among many:
"European Army: De Gaulle's Alternative," Newsweek, 12 January 1953, p.19:
Quote:"Seven profitless months have passed since six Western European nations signed treaties with each other for the creation of a European Defence Community…before a corps can be organized or a single German armed, the treaties have to be ratified by the parliaments of six countries. France and Germany…are stalling." De Gaulle "a man who has done more than most to delay the European Army gave his alternative." In an interview with Reuters, de Gaulle spelt out his alternative to avoid "the nightmare absurdity" of France's surrender of sovereignty to a supranational army."
The great man even had the audacity - compare and contrast with the spineless wonders of Brit intel, who looked the other way when Angelton targeted Roger Hollis - to call time on French intelligence subservience to Washington:
Rene Backmann, Franz-Olivier Giesbert, and Olivier Todd, “What the CIA Is Looking for in France,” pp.179-180, in Philip Agee & Louis Wolf (Eds.) Dirty Work: The CIA in Western Europe (Secaucus, NJ: Lyle Stuart Inc., 1978):
Quote:“In 1960, some of the key station chiefs of French intelligence were summoned to Paris, where they were informed of the new diplomatic orientation – no more allegiance to the United States, though on small every day matters some rapport would be maintained. The European and American ‘stations’ were reinforced, both in size and quality. And there wasn’t even any hesitation in asking a SDECE ‘plumber’ to install a microphone in the hotel room of Under-Secretary of State George Ball, who was engaged in friendly negotiations with the French government.”
3) Pass- my knowledge of Morocco would disgrace a mollusc.
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