Grassy knoll=diversion

[Phil Dragoo]

Gordon, in regards to your two questions at 83:

Wouldn't a shot from the south knoll have had to go through the windshield, possibly striking the driver and Jackie, as well as JFK?

Sherry Fiester, Enemy of the Truth, page 214:

Elevation at street level at frame 313 is 421.75 feet. The highest point on the limousine is 57 inches, added to street elevation equals 426.5 feet. Elevation at the top of the overpass is 428.4 feet. the 2.1-foot elevation difference is sufficient for firing a shot over the highest point of the limousine.

(I would add, isn't it pertinent that the Secret Service sent the limo back to Hess & Eisenhardt of Cincinnati to remove the privacy glass in 1961?)


Wouldn't a frangible bullet fired from the fence on the north knoll be consistent with the President's head wounds?

You will want the book pages 208-213 showing Sherry Fietzer's methodology: a wound trajectory of 35 degrees satisfying entry/exit limited to right hemisphere; Kennedy's LOS relative to Zapruder (25 degrees); this 115 degrees extended onto a Dealey Plaza map; with the resulting trajectory cone centered on the end of the overpass at the south, excluding in toto the north knoll.

[Gordon Gray]

Gordon, in regards to your two questions at 83:

Wouldn't a shot from the south knoll have had to go through the windshield, possibly striking the driver and Jackie, as well as JFK?

Sherry Fiester, Enemy of the Truth, page 214:

Elevation at street level at frame 313 is 421.75 feet. The highest point on the limousine is 57 inches, added to street elevation equals 426.5 feet. Elevation at the top of the overpass is 428.4 feet. the 2.1-foot elevation difference is sufficient for firing a shot over the highest point of the limousine.

(I would add, isn't it pertinent that the Secret Service sent the limo back to Hess & Eisenhardt of Cincinnati to remove the privacy glass in 1961?)


Wouldn't a frangible bullet fired from the fence on the north knoll be consistent with the President's head wounds?

You will want the book pages 208-213 showing Sherry Fietzer's methodology: a wound trajectory of 35 degrees satisfying entry/exit limited to right hemisphere; Kennedy's LOS relative to Zapruder (25 degrees); this 115 degrees extended onto a Dealey Plaza map; with the resulting trajectory cone centered on the end of the overpass at the south, excluding in toto the north knoll.

I realize that Inside the Target Car is highly questionable, but the two views they present through a scope from both the S.Knoll, and the S.Overpass, show shots having to pass through the windshield and possibly hitting other people in the limo. It would be great if someone more reputable than Gary Mack, and with no agenda, would simply take photos through a scope from all the possible positions. As regards the second question, I am thinking a frangible bullet that explodes on impact, would not maintain a straight through and through trajectory, as a FMJ bullet would.

[Jim Hackett II]

In an MSM "special" of shit, no truth can ever be found. Hell even CBC and BBC does better than the COPOUT Dunkel (GMack) and Walt Disney Corporation propaganda.

One can frame a shot in after the fact manufactured BS with or without "hitting the windsheild".

I once walked across the "triple underpass" and both "knolls".
My overall impression was how perfectly the L-ambush was planned and executed.
As well as sadness at that realization.

Given the past performance of Dunkel absolutely nothing of truth will ever be part of Dunkel's World. He chose BS over reality LONG AGO. He poisoned the well, not I. It pays too well to copout to my taste.

Consider if one of the people that DO CHOOSE truth over wealth or anything else had the power and money Larry Dunkel has used to lie to the people, then the truth would not be so confused.

Confusion is the goal of those that follow the Dunkel methodology. GMack is a chump for dollars - it is as simple to me as that. That is treason to truth - unforgivable.

There are many compatriots Dunkel finds: McNolan (another fake name for McAdams), Von Peen Hammer, Ken Rahn and others. ALL LIARS.

My point is beware of anything coming out of the nest of liars serving only the empire and neither truth nor the interests of WeThePeople.

Gary Mack is a cognitively impaired copout and a !%#$@$R^()#%%$# low life.
Because he knows the reality very well and still spreads the manure.
Anything out of Dunkel is mind poison - avoid at all costs.

Rethink everything if the data came out of the Confusatory Museum's Emporium of Doubt.

[Phil Dragoo]

JFK: Inside the Target Car, Part One
Or, How to Rig an Experiment
By James DiEugenio
http://www.ctka.net/2009/target_car_jd.html

JFK: Inside the Target Car, Part Two
Or, The Discovery Channel's Idiot Conspirators
By James DiEugenio
http://www.ctka.net/2009/target_car_jd2.html

Inside the Target Car, Part Three
How Gary Mack became Dan Rather
By James DiEugenio
http://www.ctka.net/2009/target_car_jd3.html

Sherry P. Fiester, Enemy of the Truth: Myths, Forensics, and the Kennedy Assassination, Chapter 6: The Grassy Knoll Headshot, page 217:

Nonprofessionals have not been able to address correctly the trajectory of the fatal headshot. The Discovery Channel documentary did not correctly apply forensic investigative techniques to discover the truth. They manufactured evidence and manipulated experts to guarantee an inevitable outcome. However, shooting from the Grassy Knoll did provide ballistic and trajectory information. Utilizing both fully jacketed ammunition and fragmenting ammunition, the replicated heads were targeted. When firing from the Grassy Knoll, the left side of the artificial heads displayed substantial defects regardless of the type of ammunition used. This eliminated the trajectory for the fatal headshot as coming from that location because the injuries sustained by Kennedy did not include the left side of the head.

A close look at the Discovery Channel's analysis methods reveal a subtle bias, as opposed to their implied scientific neutrality; an inaccurate replication of evidence to be examined by experts; and the manipulation of experts to arrive at conclusions designed to support preconceived opinions.

Preconceived opinions also permeated official trajectory reconstruction. The Warren Commission failed to insure a conventional trajectory analysis of Kennedy's shooting injuries was complete. The overpass was a Warren Commission consideration in April 1964 when discussing trajectory. In fact, the FBI was instructed by the Warren Commission to include the overpass as a possible location for the shooter for both the throat wound and the head shot. However, when the FBI conducted the reenactment of the assassination on May 24, 1964 to determine the trajectory angle of the bullets that struck Kennedy, the overpass trajectory study was excluded.

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Thom Robinson noted a small hole at the right temple which he "filled with a little wax."

Custer noted radial and concentric fracturing in that location.

Fiester notes blood spatter indicating a frontal shot, and a metal trail on the lateral x-ray from that locale.

Forty-plus witnesses attest to a two-to-three-inch blowout at the right occipital.

The skull receives the kinetic energy and moves into the shot for a millisecond, then at greater force and distance with the bullet travel. The blowout spreads fragments and brain matter on the rear deck and Hargis etc.

At 312 JFK looks left of profile in relation to Zapruder. The possible trajectories mapped on the plan view of the skull added to the applied protractor focuses a 35 degree trajectory cone focused on the end of the overpass at the south.

Tosh Plumlee and Sergio:

A: I was standing about 150 yards, I think its east of the triple underpass, on the south knoll, about 5 feet up the hill, in line with the light posts.

Q: Can you tell me exactly where you were standing in Dealey Plaza?

A: Yes, I can. We were standing approximately 150 feet east of the triple underpass on the south knoll up on the hill about 5 feet in line with the light posts.

Q: Could you tell how many shots were fired that day?

A: I recall myself, I'd say 4 or 5. That's what I recall. I've heard that there were more, I've heard that there were less.

Q: Could you tell the direction of those shots?

A: I couldn't tell the direction of the shots, but however, but my memory is that I feel a shot went over our head to the left of us. I'm familiar with gunfire. Also, when we left the area, we got a taste of gunpowder when we went over the railroad tracks which would have been south of the north grassy knoll.


http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/TOSHTRANS1.htm

[Gordon Gray]

I am not so sure how well planned and executed the ambush was. The shot that struck Kennedy in the back either misfired or struck something in the way. Ideally they should have hit JFK at the corner with one shot from the rear. They missed. At least 2 shots and probably more missed, and if the car did not come to a stop the president would have survived. Not sure that wasn't a lucky accident for the plotters. Also Oswald should have been eliminated immediately following the shooting, before he could be apprehended by the police. If the head shot came from the S Knoll through the windshield, it was a poorly planned shot. Bullets striking glass at an angle almost always deviate in some way.

[Phil Dragoo]

The hypothesis in Enemy of the Truth is that the elevation advantage at the South Knoll (e.g. rail) affords a clean shot at the president's head above the windshield.

[Gordon Gray]

The hypothesis in Enemy of the Truth is that the elevation advantage at the South Knoll (e.g. rail) affords a clean shot at the president's head above the windshield.

I need to see a photo through a scope. I am not convinced Also as Jackie is leaning forward of JFK it seems she is in the line of fire.