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Seamus Coogan Wrote:Greg Parkers done some great work on the Baker/Coke angle Al. As for Dawns idea. I'd love to see them all unite on that. I think a mass egging of thee 6th floor would be fun. Id love to be there as well. Dreams are very free lol shame a trip to the US is not lol.
Aye, Shame-us. Sometimes rotten fruit says it all. I'll probably get in trouble for this, but somewhere in Fetzerania a statue is being built of the grand doctor Cinque.
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Seamus Coogan Wrote:Bernice Moore Wrote:Seamus''Thus, I don't know where this anti-head shot stuff came from? My angle, and I cannot speak for Al is simply that if the Zap film was faked why leave it in there? ''
I just posted Seamus, in the Rich other film thread, i believe Rich says something like, well JFK did not die of a whip lash or, so they had to leave the head shot in, something like that there...take care b
Thanks for taking the time to post as per usual interesting call from Rich there. I won't go with it completely mate but it is an interesting point. I can understand Al's frustrations though Bern. It's the same old arguments used by Phil Nelson again. Further, I agree with Dawn as well these arguments are hardly going to impact on the case. But I have to stand with princpal here. JF and his acolytes cannot handle what they dish out. They are also rude and confrontational to the mods. If someone get's raggy at a bloke like Jan, then you seriously have a major attitude problem.
thanks for the come back, i can understand i believe all who become or are frustrated, it takes less and less some days, the longer you are into all this, that's exactly how they want to keep all...the reason so many changes, information etc complete or almost complete disappeared, ......I think, imo only, that Rich was also meaning,was that the radio reports were immediately reported that the President had been hit in the head, i did check into that and it is true, first reports say that over and over again, so they had to leave the head shot in, as that report had gone out, to the world....then today you have some arguing, where the blast out is shown on his head, side or back,and or top, that's another dandy, it never stops...the arguments continually keep going on, which have been as long as i have been reading the web, and much earlier as well, i agree in some areas they hardly make an impact, there are times, when they have,i take what information is new or interesting to me, i seldom get into them, i try not to really, been there done that so many times in the past, that i simply quit, we used to go out get into shite, and go running back home to rich's, he always seemed to know what we had been up to, perhaps he would check the other forums and or alts, i do not know for sure, but he knew... one thing the fights and arguments do accomplish , which is a shame imo, is drive away some, never to be seen again, some old timers simply leave the web and many authors will not do the web any longer because of how they are jumped upon,work trashed, you name it , and because of the arguing, so all in all, all it does and has is hurt the research itself,which is well known but has and does not change a thing.but also keep in mind, this went on with the first researchers, back and forth, they were no different than the humans of today... neither does nor will what i post change a thing, it continues every day and evening, why?? because humans are such stubborn, turkeys, they, each are right,and soooo stubborn, all else are wrong if they do not agree, and there is no inbetween.....see, they might have to finally admit, they have made a mistake, lord forbid, and that cannot be, see they all , we all, as we have all done so in the past, as none are perfect , find that seemingly the hardest thing in the world to say...i'm wrong....and ..the i'm sorry comes in at a close second.................. ok all together...i'm wrong...i'm sorry, there it really doesn't hurt. at all.....does it....:rocker:but it will and always will continue, i am sorry to say......have a good day..best b and always remember we humans are such a sorry lot...
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Albert Doyle Wrote:Seamus Coogan Wrote:Greg Parkers done some great work on the Baker/Coke angle Al. As for Dawns idea. I'd love to see them all unite on that. I think a mass egging of thee 6th floor would be fun. Id love to be there as well. Dreams are very free lol shame a trip to the US is not lol.
Aye, Shame-us. Sometimes rotten fruit says it all. I'll probably get in trouble for this, but somewhere in Fetzerania a statue is being built of the grand doctor Cinque.
Oh yes as are edifices to Ron, Phil Nelson, Nicco Haupt. Soon it will be Dick Hoagland and a whole host of UFO crazies. Mr Fetzer's final frontier will be the UFO zone I wager. I also think he will endorse that MJ-12-JFK fake document monkey poo CTKA destroyed once and for all. My reasoning is that he has continually endorsed jokes. Further, he blatantly lied about Nicco Haupt. Fetzer said he met up with Haupt wayback. And that was in about 2005-2006. He said he hadn't had anything to do with him since. Turns out I found out he was still in touch with Haupt in mid 2010 and possibly later. Remember, I found this crap out in 2011!!!!! I'd love for Jim to explain me that one!!!!!!As I would love for him to explain his lies concerning my GWB piece. Not only that why he has not tried to track down Ron.
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Fetzer has just launched another ripe Cinque pinata over on edu...
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Albert Doyle Wrote:Fetzer has just launched another ripe Cinque pinata over on edu...
Then he drags fake Osama Bin Ladens into it.
Presumably Cinque is now an expert on OBL too.
I have my own hypothesis.
Speculative of course.
I propose that the doppelganger strategy has been applied to Professor Jim Fetzer.
A Bold Voice of Truth has been swapped for A Fool Who Promotes Snake Oil Salesmen.
Tragically, the damage is inflicted upon the entire deep political research community, whose efforts are laid open to ridicule by our Enemies, by virtue of our shared endeavour to uncover the truth about high crimes.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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And now, over at the Swamp, the entity "Leni Colby" makes the kindergarten point, and is established in the minds of the ingenues and the newbies as a Voice of Reason.
There is a kind of laughter that sickens the soul. Laughter when it is out of control: when it screams and stamps its feet, and sets the bells jangling in the next town. Laughter in all its ignorance and cruelty. Laughter with the seed of Satan in it. It tramples upon shrines; the belly-roarer. It roars, it yells, it is delirious: and yet it is as cold as ice. It has no humour. It is naked noise and naked malice.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:I have my own hypothesis.
Speculative of course.
I propose that the doppelganger strategy has been applied to Professor Jim Fetzer.
A Bold Voice of Truth has been swapped for A Fool Who Promotes Snake Oil Salesmen.
I confess that I have been and continue to be confused about what the doppelganger strategy is. Mind expanding a bit?
Edit: For example, are you suggesting that JF was "motivated" to use his persona to give credence to people like Cinque, Judy Wood, etc thus enabling him and his family to live out their years in good health?
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:I confess that I have been and continue to be confused about what the doppelganger strategy is. Mind expanding a bit?
Lauren - I don't want to disrupt the thread but....
In fiction and folklore, a doppelgänger (German "double walker") (pronounced [ˈdÉ”pÉ™lˌɡɛŋÉ] ( listen)) is a paranormal double of a living person, typically representing evil or misfortune.
Charles has a strong sense of the use of the doppelganger theme in intel ops, and he may choose to expand a little.
I suspect I use the doppelganger theme more loosely than Charles.
I want it to trigger resonances....
The Harvey and Lee gambit...
Mengele's experiments on twins...
Chicago as the inevitable spectre of Dallas...
Borges' Garden of Forking Paths, the shifting sands of choice...
Doppelgangers make Their script turns so much richer, Their options for deniability so much more plausible, Their sowing of seeds so much more fecund.
And if a researcher gets too close, the doppelganger play can destroy his credibility without need of violence....
As Pynchon wrote:
"Manicheans who see two rockets . . . a good rocket to take us to the stars, an evil rocket for the World's suicide, the two perpetually in struggle....
"The rocket has to be many things . . . it must survive heresies, and heretics there will be: Gnostics who have been taken in a rush of wind and fire to chambers of the rocket throne."
As for who is riding the righteous fire....
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Edit: For example, are you suggesting that JF was "motivated" to use his persona to give credence to people like Cinque, Judy Wood, etc thus enabling him and his family to live out their years in good health?
Absolutely not.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Next thing you know Drago will have a body snatcher cocoon next to his bed and wake up convinced of LBJ as mastermind...
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