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The term 'truther' was coined by those who believe [or say they believe] the official conspiracy version of 911 events - so ipso facto it was meant to be an insult. It was, IMO also meant to sound like 'birther' and to sound like someone lisping - and therefor in their childish perverted minds, funny. It must be rejected and NOT used by those who honestly seek the truth about 911 - we can't let the enemy choose the terms nor define the 'space' and terms of discussion. In English, proper English it would not be a proper word formation - even for a coined neologism - with the 'er' at the end. It was made to and to my ear and mind still does carry nothing but a derogatory meaning - as was intended. One goes after truth or the Truth; one is not a 'truther'. The enemy of the truth coined that term - and uses it widely; and I, for one, reject it totally. angryfire I seek the truth on 911. The government, MSM and Powers that Be have all sought to spread a propaganda lie about that day and its consequences and reason for having happened. Ditto 11/22/63 - and all things 'Deep'. For the same reason I almost never use the terms LN[er] or CT. These too are derogatory terms coined by the enemy to make serious research and researchers seem like buffoons chasing after virtual butterflies. We need to set our own terms and our own agenda and not let it be set by the Enemy! In all wars pejorative terms are set for the 'other side'. I hope we can reject theirs and rise above coining our own.
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Geez, okay. "CT" is routinely used by many good researchers on internet forums. I know all too well that "conspiracy theorist" is a label used to ridicule anyone looking into the truth about important political and historical events, but I am surprised that it causes this kind of consternation within the research community itself. I just meant it as an abbreviated term, in contrast to "LNers."
I'm sorry to have disappointed people with my naivete. I will strive to do better.
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Don Jeffries Wrote:Geez, okay. "CT" is routinely used by many good researchers on internet forums. I know all too well that "conspiracy theorist" is a label used to ridicule anyone looking into the truth about important political and historical events, but I am surprised that it causes this kind of consternation within the research community itself. I just meant it as an abbreviated term, in contrast to "LNers."
I'm sorry to have disappointed people with my naivete. I will strive to do better.
Lol.
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Don Jeffries Wrote:Geez, okay. "CT" is routinely used by many good researchers on internet forums. I know all too well that "conspiracy theorist" is a label used to ridicule anyone looking into the truth about important political and historical events, but I am surprised that it causes this kind of consternation within the research community itself. I just meant it as an abbreviated term, in contrast to "LNers."
I'm sorry to have disappointed people with my naivete. I will strive to do better.
Mine were not meant as a criticism pointed at you, Don. It was just a statement on the subject to everyone. I know that others too have adopted the enemy's terminology and/or some don't care what terms are used. I think it important to self-define and deny being defined [in words and, more importantly in concept] as to what we think and what we are trying to accomplish. I only mentioned it because it had been brought up. I think it is a very subtle psyop and should be resisted as much as possible. This is my own 'take'.
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I am in complete agreement with the fine posts of Greg and Peter.
This is not a superficial, or semantic, argument. This goes to the very core of our endeavours.
I will NEVER accept the label "Conspiracy Theorist", "Truther" or "Troofer".
The term Researcher is absolutely fine.
Depending on the context I might use investigative reseacher, or deep political researcher.
If challenged, I would provide a longer explanation - such as a researcher who does not accept certain aspects of the officially sanctioned historical or contemporary account and seeks to test that version of events evidentially.
Now whilst that may be unwieldy, it is a million times better than being reduced to the enemy label of "CT" or "truther".
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Meanwhile, deep in the murky Swamp waters, the Military Censor has called many of us out in a kindergarten thread entitled "how we gnosh our kids" or some such tosh.
My my my.
How pitiful and hypocritical he is.
Of course, whenever he and his tag team partner "Leni Colby" were losing the public debate, the Military Censor would render posts invisible.
And so Power is abused.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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Fetzer is trying to make the most out of the striped shirt Lovelady wore to the FBI photo session.
The EF moderators are finally catching-on to the fact Cinque is a troll and have suspended him for 72 hours pending determination of site status.
Cinque seizes on DiEugenio's mistake about Lovelady being 20 pounds lighter in the posed shot wearing the plaid shirt. Lovelady isn't lighter at all, he's just being photographed in the same aspect ratio as the FBI shot which Cinque called "scrawny".
Cinque and Fetzer are two fools who see a compressed aspect ratio shot of Lovelady at the police station and spin a huge forgery event out of it. Fools.
Horne should publicly separate himself from Fetzer's Altgens theories lest he get dragged down with him.
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Albert Doyle Wrote:The EF moderators are finally catching-on to the fact Cinque is a troll and have suspended him for 72 hours pending determination of site status.
Albert - don't be silly. The Military Censor is toying with everyone....
It's his MO. It makes him feel Powerful and Tumescent.
I assume you know that the Military Censor has far more Power than nearly all the other Swamp Mods.
Now stand to attention and salute His Martial Presence and don't dare display any Insubordination.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
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From the Military Censor
Quote:From Michael Hogan: Evan, instead of claiming that people misinterpreted what you meant (wrote?) why not address the questions in my post? Who has "turned on Fetzer with such venom?"
To mind:
Dawn Meredith
Charles "The Round Mound of Sound" Drago
Greg Burnham
Peter "Everyone is out to get me!" Lemkin
Jan Klimkowski
Some dude called Seamus Coogan
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:From the Military Censor
Quote:From Michael Hogan: Evan, instead of claiming that people misinterpreted what you meant (wrote?) why not address the questions in my post? Who has "turned on Fetzer with such venom?"
To mind:
Dawn Meredith
Charles "The Round Mound of Sound" Drago
Greg Burnham
Peter "Everyone is out to get me!" Lemkin
Jan Klimkowski
Some dude called Seamus Coogan
Jeezus,how could he leave out Albert?.......:rofl:
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.â€
Buckminster Fuller
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