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#61
Albert Doyle Wrote:
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:As for LTC Marvin's 2002 comments on the Pitzer matter, most of them have since been addressed and the bottom line -- in my opinion -- is that there is no evidence of homicide:



Well if you ignore the overwhelming evidence that he was murdered by CIA because he filmed the wounds from the front -- I guess --. That is, if that's what you call "no evidence".


Meanwhile there's pathetically even much less evidence for suicide.


The Pitzer suits are a diversion tactic. Only in Amerikka would a brave man who stood up and defended America against fascist treason be subjected to lawsuits as a reward.


Where is the overwhelming evidence that LCDR Pitzer was murdered by the CIA?

And what are the "Pitzer suits?" Do you mean the lawsuit (singular) against LTC Marvin?
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#62
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:Where is the overwhelming evidence that LCDR Pitzer was murdered by the CIA?

And what are the "Pitzer suits?" Do you mean the lawsuit (singular) against LTC Marvin?



Surely you're not saying that Captain Vanek's responses were credible? Or that the inquiry into the matter was thorough and sincere?


The circumstantial evidence that Pitzer was murdered for the films he made of the autopsy is overwhelming. A classic CIA defamation routine was done against Pitzer omitting the main information about what he was up to or how it represented strong motivation for his murder. Surely you are not standing behind this as genuine or credible?

If the investigation against him was credible then what happened to the film evidence Dennis David witnessed?


Pitzer's death was like Roger Craig's. If I recall correctly Pitzer was shot in the side of his head opposite his throwing arm. Craig also had the same defamation routine done against him despite all the overwhelming evidence of intel persecution.


They deal in death, not democracy. And they don't hide it that much.
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#63
Albert Doyle Wrote:
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:Where is the overwhelming evidence that LCDR Pitzer was murdered by the CIA?

And what are the "Pitzer suits?" Do you mean the lawsuit (singular) against LTC Marvin?



Surely you're not saying that Captain Vanek's responses were credible? Or that the inquiry into the matter was thorough and sincere?


The circumstantial evidence that Pitzer was murdered for the films he made of the autopsy is overwhelming. A classic CIA defamation routine was done against Pitzer omitting the main information about what he was up to or how it represented strong motivation for his murder. Surely you are not standing behind this as genuine or credible?

If the investigation against him was credible then what happened to the film evidence Dennis David witnessed?


Pitzer's death was like Roger Craig's. If I recall correctly Pitzer was shot in the side of his head opposite his throwing arm. Craig also had the same defamation routine done against him despite all the overwhelming evidence of intel persecution.


They deal in death, not democracy. And they don't hide it that much.

What a garble of nonsequiturs!

"If I recall correctly Pitzer was shot in the side of his head opposite his throwing arm." Well, you don't recall correctly -- you are ignorant of even this, the most fundamental aspect of the case. Wonderful.
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#64
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:What a garble of nonsequiturs!

"If I recall correctly Pitzer was shot in the side of his head opposite his throwing arm." Well, you don't recall correctly -- you are ignorant of even this, the most fundamental aspect of the case. Wonderful.



Very weak. "Non-sequiturs" backed by solid facts from the case you conspicuously can't answer.


Didn't Pitzer have a wound on the opposite side of his head than his throwing arm? And what about the rest you avoided?


Wikipedia: " A naval colleague, Dennis David, said in a TV interview that Pitzer was left-handed but the bullet entry wound was on the right side of his head. This may suggest he was murdered. Pitzer is also sometimes said to have been present at the Kennedy autopsy at the NNMC[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP], though he was not among those noted in official records. "
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#65
If you believe everything you read in Wikipedia you'll eat everything you see.

It is true that Dennis David thought that Bill Pitzer was left-handed, because Pitzer dealt cards by skimming them off the top of the pack with the thumb of his left hand. It was something of a parlor trick. In fact Dennis told me that his father used to do the same, and he wasn't left-handed either. If you do a little digging, you'll find that Harry Livingstone and Dan Marvin were both told by Mrs. Pitzer that her husband was right-handed.

In fact, do yourself a favor and read the most up-to-date information on the Pitzer case, and stop going off half-cocked from a position of abject ignorance.

http://www.manuscriptservice.com/PitzerFiles/
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#66
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:If you believe everything you read in Wikipedia you'll eat everything you see.

It is true that Dennis David thought that Bill Pitzer was left-handed, because Pitzer dealt cards by skimming them off the top of the pack with the thumb of his left hand. It was something of a parlor trick. In fact Dennis told me that his father used to do the same, and he wasn't left-handed either. If you do a little digging, you'll find that Harry Livingstone and Dan Marvin were both told by Mrs. Pitzer that her husband was right-handed.

In fact, do yourself a favor and read the most up-to-date information on the Pitzer case, and stop going off half-cocked from a position of abject ignorance.

http://www.manuscriptservice.com/PitzerFiles/


You still haven't answered the rest of the questions. For instance what was Pitzer doing curled-up under a step-ladder? Committing a step-ladder suicide where he climbed to the top in a dramtic gesture and shot himself?

And as long as we are quoting Mrs Pitzer what about the quote where she said she didn't believe her husband committed suicide?


If you were sincere you would address Dan Marvin's witnessing. The reason you dodge Vanek isn't because of Wikipedia. ...Speaking of half-cocked.


Edit: I just read the article and it doesn't offer anything whatsoever. Its main body consists of FBI! investigations. FBI! What are you going to do next Allan, flame people with the FBI portions of the Warren Report? The coverage of the Dan Marvin material is so superficial as to be negligible as far as investigatory integrity.
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#67
Allan Eaglesham Wrote:It is true that Dennis David thought that Bill Pitzer was left-handed, because Pitzer dealt cards by skimming them off the top of the pack with the thumb of his left hand. It was something of a parlor trick. In fact Dennis told me that his father used to do the same, and he wasn't left-handed either. If you do a little digging, you'll find that Harry Livingstone and Dan Marvin were both told by Mrs. Pitzer that her husband was right-handed.

Sensing what is close to or at a stalemate, I offer this for possible consideration:

Could it be that Bill Pitzer was very good at thinking backwards?
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#68
Lone nutters and mockingbirds - some with well known names, some without....doesn't matter...all work for the same evil.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
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#69
Albert

In your #60:

"The Pitzer suits are a diversion tactic. Only in Amerikka would a brave man who stood up and defended America against fascist treason be subjected to lawsuits as a reward."

I concur wholeheartedly.

Oddly, I am wearing an item of clothing made in Cambodia. John Kerry claimed he was sent to Cambodia on a deniable mission. John Kerry was not sued, nor defamed.

Marvin was sued alongside his publisher Kris Millegan of Trine Day (thanks to whom we have the Ed Haslam book, the Albarelli book, the Evica bookoh my) and the suit failed.

As in failed.

To prove the plaintiffs' allegations.

And yet someone is mocking of "non sequiturs."

The book Expendable Elite is available on Kindle and its revelations are as eye-opening as those of Prouty's JFK.

Abraham Bolden was framed and jailed. Hoover ran smear campaigns on Dr. King. Mark Lane was smeared. The late Lieutenant Colonel Marvin is in good company.

Allen Dulles snorted, "That little Kennedy. . .he thought he was a god" while Elmer Moore of the noble Secret Service called the late president "a traitor."

Character assassination is the lingua franca of the coup clique and their follow-on mop-up crew.

The suicide of DeMohrenschildt despite the alarm and location of the weapon.

The suicide of Roger Craig after all the homicide attempts, and with a rifle he didn't own rather than either of the two pistols he did in fact own.

We must trust the evidence in the hands of the authorities for all the decades never doubting their integrity.

Just look at the president's brain.

1500 grams. Is it not wondrous.

Argument from authority.

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#70
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Just look at the president's brain.

1500 grams. Is it not wondrous.

Do your thing, Phil: JFK's brain on one of a scale's pans. The other holding 150 grams of cocaine.

Caption: "They had no choice."
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