Two Men in Dallas is a 1976 production by Mark Lane regarding the dangerous witness Roger Craig, his observations, harassment and serial attacks culminating in his murder.
I have the tape and the impact is clear and compelling.
Mark Lane, Last Word: My Indictment of the CIA in the Murder of JFK, includes his personal association with Dorothy Kilgallen, Lisa Howard, Roger Craig and others, and how their suspicious deaths "made it personal" for him.
The treatment of George DeMohrenschildt's highly suspicious and ultra-violent death in Gaeton Fonzi, The Last Investigation places the event in the context of a narrow window between the harassment of Epstein and the visit by investigator Fonzi.
DeMohrenschildt, considered to be a CIA asset, having been assigned Oswald by J. Walton Moore of CIA Domestic Contacts Division, having written I Am A Patsy! I Am A Patsy! deeming Oswald not the kind of person to have killed the president, having pleaded with GHWBush DCI to remove the vigilante shadow, having been tormented by CIA Doctor Mendoza and Doctor DeLoach (cousin of top FBI official Cartha DeLoach) in a Gottlieb-Mengele electronarcotic torture regime, is found with a long gun wound in the offending mouth as the home burglar alarm announces an unauthorized entry.
Vital witness, HSCA investigator, GSW to the mouth: baddabing, baddabang, baddaboom.
QED nothing to see here.
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The murder between Hoffa's disappearence and Roselli's canning, that of Sam Momo Giancana in his Chicago home, at the only time during his lengthy surveillance that FBI, CIA, and Chicago PD all took their meal breaks simultaneously, by a person with an oral fixation.
As though the FBI, CIA and Chicago PD had a message either to deliver, or to allow to be delivered.
There's something all these deaths have in common but for the life of me I just can't put my finger on it.
I was hoping you could throw some light on it.*
*Note: Unable to reach Guy Bannister, CD Jackson, William Harvey, Desmond FitzGerald--we have the report of a Frank Sturgis that Cubans or KGB should be pursued, from E. Howard Hunt that the trail ended at LBJ, from the site of McMorlock that it's all been debunked, a blanket verdict of death by natural causes from the Sunstein Commission on Ignorance & Strength, based on the bedrock of Allen W. Dulles' immortal, "You've shown me nothing! I see nothing!"
Quote:Strange, and here I thought you really wanted help to get an answer to your question.
The reference to McAdams' website was my attempt at humor --failed again. I have read one book on JFK -- Unspeakable -- three times. I'll probably read it again. I listened to Jim D destroy McAdams at Black Op Radio. McAdams is a shill. His dismissal of the death of Rose Cheramie, a heroin addict and prostitute and yet one who still had the ability to summon moral outrage and passionate caring is at the bottom.
EDIT: Adele, Thanks for being so kind to answer in a polite way. Ironically, he is a source of Marrs' list in table form (accurate representation?) and dismisses every one on the list as WRONG AGAIN, FOOL. (That's humor, too.)
Unspeakable is really amazing... great one as your first one...
If I can recommend... Manchester's book - while still an "Oswald did it alone" type book has an amazing wealth of behind the scenes info that helps put things into persepctive... and ANY of the Russell books but especially The Man Who Knew Too Much...
Hancock's Someone Would Have Talked, Lifton's Best Evidence, and EVERYTHING Salandria wrote, False Mystery is a collection o fhis and related works....
Cheers
DJ
I'd pay sepcial attention to the number of those on that list that "die" just days/weeks before their scheduled testimony appearances... THAT is an eerie number and list of people including Ferrie, DeMoren, and a whole slew of Mafia....
Quote:Strange, and here I thought you really wanted help to get an answer to your question.
The reference to McAdams' website was my attempt at humor --failed again. I have read one book on JFK -- Unspeakable -- three times. I'll probably read it again. I listened to Jim D destroy McAdams at Black Op Radio. McAdams is a shill. His dismissal of the death of Rose Cheramie, a heroin addict and prostitute and yet one who still had the ability to summon moral outrage and passionate caring is at the bottom.
EDIT: Adele, Thanks for being so kind to answer in a polite way. Ironically, he is a source of Marrs' list in table form (accurate representation?) and dismisses every one on the list as WRONG AGAIN, FOOL. (That's humor, too.)
Unspeakable is really amazing... great one as your first one...
If I can recommend... Manchester's book - while still an "Oswald did it alone" type book has an amazing wealth of behind the scenes info that helps put things into persepctive... and ANY of the Russell books but especially The Man Who Knew Too Much...
Hancock's Someone Would Have Talked, Lifton's Best Evidence, and EVERYTHING Salandria wrote, False Mystery is a collection o fhis and related works....
Cheers
DJ
I'd pay sepcial attention to the number of those on that list that "die" just days/weeks before their scheduled testimony appearances... THAT is an eerie number and list of people including Ferrie, DeMoren, and a whole slew of Mafia....
Unspeakable might well be the only JFK book I read. I view it as a settled issue. Certainly there is much to learn and to find out. But the basics are in Douglass. For example, I think 9/11 matters more. We need to get past Archetects and Engineers asking for a new and better investigation. 'Hey, let's get Jamie Gorelick in on this one. She knows a lot.' Won't and can't happen.
Getting back to the number of dead, do you have a number? Sounds like 80 something is the low end and over 200 is the upper end.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
Quote:Strange, and here I thought you really wanted help to get an answer to your question.
The reference to McAdams' website was my attempt at humor --failed again. I have read one book on JFK -- Unspeakable -- three times. I'll probably read it again. I listened to Jim D destroy McAdams at Black Op Radio. McAdams is a shill. His dismissal of the death of Rose Cheramie, a heroin addict and prostitute and yet one who still had the ability to summon moral outrage and passionate caring is at the bottom.
EDIT: Adele, Thanks for being so kind to answer in a polite way. Ironically, he is a source of Marrs' list in table form (accurate representation?) and dismisses every one on the list as WRONG AGAIN, FOOL. (That's humor, too.)
Unspeakable is really amazing... great one as your first one...
If I can recommend... Manchester's book - while still an "Oswald did it alone" type book has an amazing wealth of behind the scenes info that helps put things into persepctive... and ANY of the Russell books but especially The Man Who Knew Too Much...
Hancock's Someone Would Have Talked, Lifton's Best Evidence, and EVERYTHING Salandria wrote, False Mystery is a collection o fhis and related works....
Cheers
DJ
I'd pay sepcial attention to the number of those on that list that "die" just days/weeks before their scheduled testimony appearances... THAT is an eerie number and list of people including Ferrie, DeMoren, and a whole slew of Mafia....
Unspeakable might well be the only JFK book I read. I view it as a settled issue. Certainly there is much to learn and to find out. But the basics are in Douglass. For example, I think 9/11 matters more. We need to get past Archetects and Engineers asking for a new and better investigation. 'Hey, let's get Jamie Gorelick in on this one. She knows a lot.' Won't and can't happen.
Getting back to the number of dead, do you have a number? Sounds like 80 something is the low end and over 200 is the upper end.
Nope.. no number as it would be hard to tell who was connected or not... I think there were MANY MORE deaths of people we simply were not aware of...
Unspeakable is not the end all of JFK literature... I HIGHLY SUGGEST finding any and all Salandria articles, written in the days/weeks/years right afterward.. (there are many sources online for his writings). Simple, Direct, and rips the WCR to shreds...
Finally... "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" - available to download - will fill in the "DEEP POLITICS" of the last 100+ years.
re: 9/11. nano thermite in the dust and black vans from 3-5am for the three weeks prior to 9/11....
Security turned off, cameras turned off, dust all over the offices below vacant ones....
Bush/Chaney hiding in plain sight... wudeya guana dew boutit... :pinkelephant:
25-10-2012, 05:02 AM (This post was last modified: 25-10-2012, 05:19 AM by Greg Burnham.)
Not to be too argumentative, Lauren, yet I can't help but to wonder how it is that you came to the conclusion that "Unspeakable" was such a great book? Don't misunderstand, I too think it is a valuable resource and perspective...excellent. However, had you already done tremendous amounts of research PRIOR to reading it so that you were in a position to make an informed judgment as to its value?
Better yet: If you fancy yourself as being qualified to render such a favorable judgment with regards to "Unspeakable" -- upon what "research" do you rely to judge yourself as qualified? If you have never read any other JFK assassination books...well, what "research" did you actually conduct? Mike Ragu claims to be a terrific researcher, but admits to never reading any books on the subject. How does one become a terrific un-read researcher?
Strange, and here I thought you really wanted help to get an answer to your question.
P.S. This has nothing to do with your having referenced McAdams' website!
Lauren Johnson Wrote:
David Josephs Wrote:
Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Quote:Strange, and here I thought you really wanted help to get an answer to your question.
The reference to McAdams' website was my attempt at humor --failed again. I have read one book on JFK -- Unspeakable -- three times. I'll probably read it again. I listened to Jim D destroy McAdams at Black Op Radio. McAdams is a shill. His dismissal of the death of Rose Cheramie, a heroin addict and prostitute and yet one who still had the ability to summon moral outrage and passionate caring is at the bottom.
EDIT: Adele, Thanks for being so kind to answer in a polite way. Ironically, he is a source of Marrs' list in table form (accurate representation?) and dismisses every one on the list as WRONG AGAIN, FOOL. (That's humor, too.)
Unspeakable is really amazing... great one as your first one...
If I can recommend... Manchester's book - while still an "Oswald did it alone" type book has an amazing wealth of behind the scenes info that helps put things into persepctive... and ANY of the Russell books but especially The Man Who Knew Too Much...
Hancock's Someone Would Have Talked, Lifton's Best Evidence, and EVERYTHING Salandria wrote, False Mystery is a collection o fhis and related works....
Cheers
DJ
I'd pay sepcial attention to the number of those on that list that "die" just days/weeks before their scheduled testimony appearances... THAT is an eerie number and list of people including Ferrie, DeMoren, and a whole slew of Mafia....
Unspeakable might well be the only JFK book I read. I view it as a settled issue. Certainly there is much to learn and to find out. But the basics are in Douglass. For example, I think 9/11 matters more. We need to get past Archetects and Engineers asking for a new and better investigation. 'Hey, let's get Jamie Gorelick in on this one. She knows a lot.' Won't and can't happen.
Getting back to the number of dead, do you have a number? Sounds like 80 something is the low end and over 200 is the upper end.
GO_SECURE
monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
25-10-2012, 06:00 AM (This post was last modified: 25-10-2012, 07:27 AM by Lauren Johnson.)
Greg Burnham Wrote:Not to be too argumentative, Lauren, but I can't help to wonder how it is that you came to the conclusion that "Unspeakable" was such a great book? Had you already done tremendous amounts of research PRIOR to reading it so that you were in a position to make an informed judgment as to its value?
Better yet: If you fancy yourself as being qualified to render such a favorable judgment with regards to "Unspeakable" -- upon what "research" do you rely to judge yourself as qualified? If you have never read any other JFK assassination books...well, what "research" did you actually conduct? Mike Ragu claims to be a terrific researcher, but admits to never reading any books on the subject. How does one become a terrific un-read researcher?
Strange, and here I thought you really wanted help to get an answer to your question.
Lauren Johnson Wrote:
David Josephs Wrote:
Lauren Johnson Wrote:The reference to McAdams' website was my attempt at humor --failed again. I have read one book on JFK -- Unspeakable -- three times. I'll probably read it again. I listened to Jim D destroy McAdams at Black Op Radio. McAdams is a shill. His dismissal of the death of Rose Cheramie, a heroin addict and prostitute and yet one who still had the ability to summon moral outrage and passionate caring is at the bottom.
EDIT: Adele, Thanks for being so kind to answer in a polite way. Ironically, he is a source of Marrs' list in table form (accurate representation?) and dismisses every one on the list as WRONG AGAIN, FOOL. (That's humor, too.)
Unspeakable is really amazing... great one as your first one...
If I can recommend... Manchester's book - while still an "Oswald did it alone" type book has an amazing wealth of behind the scenes info that helps put things into persepctive... and ANY of the Russell books but especially The Man Who Knew Too Much...
Hancock's Someone Would Have Talked, Lifton's Best Evidence, and EVERYTHING Salandria wrote, False Mystery is a collection o fhis and related works....
Cheers
DJ
I'd pay sepcial attention to the number of those on that list that "die" just days/weeks before their scheduled testimony appearances... THAT is an eerie number and list of people including Ferrie, DeMoren, and a whole slew of Mafia....
Unspeakable might well be the only JFK book I read. I view it as a settled issue. Certainly there is much to learn and to find out. But the basics are in Douglass. For example, I think 9/11 matters more. We need to get past Archetects and Engineers asking for a new and better investigation. 'Hey, let's get Jamie Gorelick in on this one. She knows a lot.' Won't and can't happen.
Getting back to the number of dead, do you have a number? Sounds like 80 something is the low end and over 200 is the upper end.
Greg,
Easy question. I am not a researcher and I don't pretend to be one. I am not an expert on the JFK assassination as a whole or in part. I have paid attention to the field by reading my one book and lurking at Education Forum, CTKA, Black Op Radio, and here at DPF. So when I say what I say about Unspeakable, I am quoting a large number people who I have come to respect. It seems to answer the questions I have. I stay on the fringe of the field to see if I develop new questions. Has the extant Z-film been edited? Probably from what I can tell from the debates. Can I defend that assertion? No. Nevertheless, I don't think the issue as far as my interests go is not crucial.
EDIT: I have been poking through A Certain Arrogance by Evica. I guess I am up to two books now.
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
We'll probably never know the exact number of deaths connected to the assassination. I can attest to the fact that comedian Freddie Prinze was almost certainly knocked off because of the JFK assassination. If I hadn't been in Mark Lane's office one afternoon in late 1976, I would never have connected Prinze to anything, nor been suspicious when he committed "suicide" in early 1977.
This story, as well as lots of other interesting stuff, will be in my upcoming book Yes, Virginia, There Is A Conspiracy. I'm trying to find a publisher for it now. It isn't easy.
We'll probably never know the exact number of deaths connected to the assassination. I can attest to the fact that comedian Freddie Prinze was almost certainly knocked off because of the JFK assassination. If I hadn't been in Mark Lane's office one afternoon in late 1976, I would never have connected Prinze to anything, nor been suspicious when he committed "suicide" in early 1977.
This story, as well as lots of other interesting stuff, will be in my upcoming book Yes, Virginia, There Is A Conspiracy. I'm trying to find a publisher for it now. It isn't easy.
Wow, I never heard that one. I just remember how the story went: He looked an acquaintance right in the eye and blew his own brains out. He was 'obviously crazy.'
"We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I
"We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl
Mark Lane and I did a book about the murder of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Because of that book and Mark Lane's ability to muster people together, the Senate and Congress were forced to have Kennedy/King assassination investigations. I mention it because of the book a lot of people started calling us with information. Freddie Prince called me one day, and he came into some information on the Kennedy assassination. I'm trying to tell him my phone is tapped. I told him that I was coming to LA the next day, and I have a fantastic script he might be able to use. He didn't hear me. He kept talking and talking and wondering why I wasn't interested. He died that night. They called it suicide. You know enough about this country that if someone trying to give you some information and they fall dead the next day, that's no accident.
Lauren, you are on a path with heart if you are going from Douglass to Evica. The voices tell me never say you'll only read one book say you'll only read one book at a time.
David, the vans and the dust--ah, these renovators. Weeks in advance. A careful placement, a hovering E-4, on my mark--pull it.
Dick Gregory was on the dais with Robert Groden and Geraldo Rivera when the extant Zapruder was screened on tv and I was catapulted into the screen.
Some Americans are still in the audience watching the nineteen fly planes into buildings rather than backing it up to watch the vans, backing it up to watch O'Neill do the Freddie Prince (Prinze). Lee tipped Chicago to the plot.
Dallas and 911 are two major contrivances.
And yes let's do talk to Gorelick in re The Wall for Chinagate, but cui bono 911. Clients prefer discretion, insist upon it. Lee's call to Hurt was his last.
In Chicago Days of Rage it was 24-Hour Emergency Board-Up Service trucks; in NYC, Acme Pre-Terror Demo "The MIB in the Black Vans: From Shaped Charges to Plasma Cutting"
In Dallas, trades trucks dispense mechanics beneath the Hertz Don't It sign
In the Big Apple the Statue of Liberty was as helpless as her papier mache counterpart in Tiananmen.
The unmasking proceeds one (excellent) book at a time
It's not how many victims there were; it's how many more awakenings before we throw off those pesky old chains
(Hint: Fairies in dog collars like O'Reilly are backward steps--unless lampooned, in which case judo makes his work for our ends)
Thanks so much for that, Phil. I have never seen that before. In fact, I've never seen anyone else mention Prinze's interest in the assassination. When I sent Penn Jones a blurb about it way back in the early 1980s, he claimed Mark Lane denied it, but he did publish it in his The Continuing Inquiry.
Do you have more details on the original source for Gregory's comments? The link goes to "interzones," and seems to be something Gregory said in the mid-1990s (judging by the O.J. trial references).
