General Question

[Dawn Meredith]

Lauren,

We'll probably never know the exact number of deaths connected to the assassination. I can attest to the fact that comedian Freddie Prinze was almost certainly knocked off because of the JFK assassination. If I hadn't been in Mark Lane's office one afternoon in late 1976, I would never have connected Prinze to anything, nor been suspicious when he committed "suicide" in early 1977.

This story, as well as lots of other interesting stuff, will be in my upcoming book Yes, Virginia, There Is A Conspiracy. I'm trying to find a publisher for it now. It isn't easy.

Don Can you elaberate? I remember this as I read he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head in front of others. What did his death have to do with JFK?

Dawn

[Dawn Meredith]

Thanks Phil. Chilling. I wish we knew more. I had never heard this story before.
Lauren, Unspeakable is THE best book on this case. In a field of so many great ones.

Please do not say it does not matter. It does. Had they not gotten away with all the JFK and related murders the suspicious deaths would have not continued, including JFK Jr.

Of course 9-11 is important but it is also CONNECTED. Frank Olsen was murdered. He had witnessed so much horror by the CIA that he wanted out. But you don't get out - not alive. His murder was covered up at the time, then again, covered up in 1975 by Cheney and Rumsfeld. Ya the neocons who helped author the blueprint called Project For a New American Century.

It matters. And Douglass told you why.

Dawn

[Lauren Johnson]

Please do not say it does not matter. It does. Had they not gotten away with all the JFK and related murders the suspicious deaths would have not continued, including JFK Jr.

Just checking. I don't know what the "it" is. The assassination of JFK is the day the music died. Everything since then has been consolidation and expansion on this tragic day. Douglass answered the basic questions for me: why he died and why it matters.

Other books? My burning questions have to do with the structures that surrounded the assassination -- political, social, psychic, spiritual.

It matters deeply.

[David Josephs]

Please do not say it does not matter. It does. Had they not gotten away with all the JFK and related murders the suspicious deaths would have not continued, including JFK Jr.

Just checking. I don't know what the "it" is. The assassination of JFK is the day the music died. Everything since then has been consolidation and expansion on this tragic day. Douglass answered the basic questions for me: why he died and why it matters.

Other books? My burning questions have to do with the structures that surrounded the assassination -- political, social, psychic, spiritual.

It matters deeply.

IMO these two articles/books MUST be read to understand any conversation related to DEEP POLITICS in the USA and World

Starting here with the history of Money and Rothschilds

J.P. Morgan was thought by many to be the richest man in the world during the second world war,
but upon his death it was discovered he was merely a lieutenant within the Rothschild empire
owning only 19% of the J.P. Morgan Companies.

http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

and "None Dare" - which is about who/why/when/where/how of the STRUCTURE you refer to - that Unspeakable pulls from and builds upon...

http://archive.org/details/NoneDareCallItConspiracy

INTRODUCTION

The story you are about to read is true. The names have not been changed to protect the guilty. This book may have the effect of changing your life. After reading this book, you will never look at national and world events in the same way again.

None Dare Call It Conspiracy will be a very controversial book. At first it will receive little publicity and those whose plans are exposed in it will try to kill it by the silent treatment. For reasons that become obvious as you read this book, it will not be reviewed in all the "proper" places or be available on your local bookstand. However, there is nothing these people can do to stop a grass roots book distributing system. Eventually it will be necessary for the people and organizations named in this book to try to blunt its effect by attacking it or the author. They have a tremendous vested interest in keeping you from discovering what they are doing. And they have the big guns of the mass media at their disposal to fire the barrages at None Dare Call It Conspiracy.

By sheer volume, the "experts" will try to ridicule you out of investigating for yourself as to whether or not the information in this book is true They will ignore the fact that the author about to conjecture. They will find a typographical error or ague some point that is open to debate. If necessary they will lie in order to protect themselves by smearing this book. I believe those who pooh-pooh the information herein because Psychologically many people would prefer to believe we are because we all like to ignore bad news. We do so at our own peril.

Having been a college instructor, a State Senator and now a Congressman I have had experience with real professionals at putting up smokescreens to cover up their own actions by trying to destroy the accuser. I hope that you will read the book carefully, draw your own conclusions and not accept the opinions of those who of necessity must attempt to discredit the book. Your future may depend upon it.
October 25, 1971 JOHN G. SCMITZ UNITED STATES CONGRESSMAN

[Phil Dragoo]

Don

A quick look shows that piece appears also at http://rense.com/general68/dickg.htm and the reference to Prinze is transcribed as Prince

You say Lane denied it. Lane presents features of interest.

Dick Gregory sat in the street in front of the AFIP http://archive.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1.../24/205452

He found the hole in the top of Ron Brown's head to be inconsistent with the plane hitting the mountain

Which itself seems to have been the result of a beacon stolen from a base whose commander commited suicide

While the stewardess survived the crash but not the ambulance ride

Ron Brown having said he was tired of being Hillary's errand boy

Dick Gregory has a site and is still alive making appearances at 80 http://www.dickgregory.com/

He's a bloodhound on the trail of the crimes of the big money

David

You take Donald Gibson's Rockefeller-Morgan and go upstairs to Rothschilds

You may be David Rockefeller with that sphinxlike smile

with a Who's Who listing longer than a mile

But ya gotta serve somebody

[Lauren Johnson]

Please do not say it does not matter. It does. Had they not gotten away with all the JFK and related murders the suspicious deaths would have not continued, including JFK Jr.

Just checking. I don't know what the "it" is. The assassination of JFK is the day the music died. Everything since then has been consolidation and expansion on this tragic day. Douglass answered the basic questions for me: why he died and why it matters.

Other books? My burning questions have to do with the structures that surrounded the assassination -- political, social, psychic, spiritual.

It matters deeply.

Of these two articles/books MUST be read to understand any conversation related to DEEP POLITICS in the USA and World

Starting here with the history of Money and Rothschilds

J.P. Morgan was thought by many to be the richest man in the world during the second world war,
but upon his death it was discovered he was merely a lieutenant within the Rothschild empire
owning only 19% of the J.P. Morgan Companies.

http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

and "None Dare" - which is about who/why/when/where/how of the STRUCTURE you refer to - that Unspeakable pulls from and builds upon...

http://archive.org/details/NoneDareCallItConspiracy

INTRODUCTION

The story you are about to read is true. The names have not been changed to protect the guilty. This book may have the effect of changing your life. After reading this book, you will never look at national and world events in the same way again.

None Dare Call It Conspiracy will be a very controversial book. At first it will receive little publicity and those whose plans are exposed in it will try to kill it by the silent treatment. For reasons that become obvious as you read this book, it will not be reviewed in all the "proper" places or be available on your local bookstand. However, there is nothing these people can do to stop a grass roots book distributing system. Eventually it will be necessary for the people and organizations named in this book to try to blunt its effect by attacking it or the author. They have a tremendous vested interest in keeping you from discovering what they are doing. And they have the big guns of the mass media at their disposal to fire the barrages at None Dare Call It Conspiracy.

By sheer volume, the "experts" will try to ridicule you out of investigating for yourself as to whether or not the information in this book is true They will ignore the fact that the author about to conjecture. They will find a typographical error or ague some point that is open to debate. If necessary they will lie in order to protect themselves by smearing this book. I believe those who pooh-pooh the information herein because Psychologically many people would prefer to believe we are because we all like to ignore bad news. We do so at our own peril.

Having been a college instructor, a State Senator and now a Congressman I have had experience with real professionals at putting up smokescreens to cover up their own actions by trying to destroy the accuser. I hope that you will read the book carefully, draw your own conclusions and not accept the opinions of those who of necessity must attempt to discredit the book. Your future may depend upon it.
October 25, 1971 JOHN G. SCMITZ UNITED STATES CONGRESSMAN

David

I am having serious problems with Schmitz. I know he is JBS big time. Is that where you reside? Then there is the stuff on the Rothchilds, which I have regarded as anti-Semitic at its base. OTOH, you are self-identified as non-gentile. As I have said, I consider myself a seeker and not an expert . Reading this stuff gives me a sense of discomfort. At the same time, I do not wish to eliminate valid pathways.

[David Josephs]

Please do not say it does not matter. It does. Had they not gotten away with all the JFK and related murders the suspicious deaths would have not continued, including JFK Jr.

Just checking. I don't know what the "it" is. The assassination of JFK is the day the music died. Everything since then has been consolidation and expansion on this tragic day. Douglass answered the basic questions for me: why he died and why it matters.

Other books? My burning questions have to do with the structures that surrounded the assassination -- political, social, psychic, spiritual.

It matters deeply.

Of these two articles/books MUST be read to understand any conversation related to DEEP POLITICS in the USA and World

Starting here with the history of Money and Rothschilds

J.P. Morgan was thought by many to be the richest man in the world during the second world war,
but upon his death it was discovered he was merely a lieutenant within the Rothschild empire
owning only 19% of the J.P. Morgan Companies.

http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

and "None Dare" - which is about who/why/when/where/how of the STRUCTURE you refer to - that Unspeakable pulls from and builds upon...

http://archive.org/details/NoneDareCallItConspiracy

INTRODUCTION

The story you are about to read is true. The names have not been changed to protect the guilty. This book may have the effect of changing your life. After reading this book, you will never look at national and world events in the same way again.

None Dare Call It Conspiracy will be a very controversial book. At first it will receive little publicity and those whose plans are exposed in it will try to kill it by the silent treatment. For reasons that become obvious as you read this book, it will not be reviewed in all the "proper" places or be available on your local bookstand. However, there is nothing these people can do to stop a grass roots book distributing system. Eventually it will be necessary for the people and organizations named in this book to try to blunt its effect by attacking it or the author. They have a tremendous vested interest in keeping you from discovering what they are doing. And they have the big guns of the mass media at their disposal to fire the barrages at None Dare Call It Conspiracy.

By sheer volume, the "experts" will try to ridicule you out of investigating for yourself as to whether or not the information in this book is true They will ignore the fact that the author about to conjecture. They will find a typographical error or ague some point that is open to debate. If necessary they will lie in order to protect themselves by smearing this book. I believe those who pooh-pooh the information herein because Psychologically many people would prefer to believe we are because we all like to ignore bad news. We do so at our own peril.

Having been a college instructor, a State Senator and now a Congressman I have had experience with real professionals at putting up smokescreens to cover up their own actions by trying to destroy the accuser. I hope that you will read the book carefully, draw your own conclusions and not accept the opinions of those who of necessity must attempt to discredit the book. Your future may depend upon it.
October 25, 1971 JOHN G. SCMITZ UNITED STATES CONGRESSMAN

David

I am having serious problems with Schmitz. I know he is JBS big time. Is that where you reside? Then there is the stuff on the Rothchilds, which I have regarded as anti-Semitic at its base. OTOH, you are self-identified as non-gentile. As I have said, I consider myself a seeker and not an expert . Reading this stuff gives me a sense of discomfort. At the same time, I do not wish to eliminate valid pathways.

I only used his quote in support of the book.... not where I reside.

I have a difficult time seeing how the history of the Rothschilds is anti-semetic... that they were JEWS has no bearing on the ruthlessness of their conquest.
Seizing an opportunity is not a JEWISH thing... playing one nation against the other while supplying both is not JEWISH, it's ruthless, intelligent business.

The taste of anti-semitism is in the presentation and reception of the information... that most of these men were jews is not the reason they did what they did...
that they were HUMAN MEN BENT ON POWER AND CONTROL AT ANY COST superceded their religion, nationality and allegiances...

Their GOD was/is money & power... and there just as many evil men/women from other coutries and other nationalities/religions pulling the strings.
the TOP of this pyramid is not a family or a person but a cabal, a group of OWNERS who cooperate so they can continue to make the rules...

You've read None Dare?

DJ

[Phil Dragoo]

http://www.whale.to/b/allen_b1.html

A hoot to see Bill Richardson in the photo montage of CFR

Used by Clinton at Energy to destroy Notra Trulock threat to Wen Ho Lee and the transfer of U.S. warhead designs to China

Mention made of Kissinger, how he was the anti-Nixon

The book written 1971--January 1972 Nixon and Kissinger discuss with Mao and Chou how the cow will eat the cabbage

In 1973 Trilateral with Brzezinski fronting for wishes of David Rockefeller

CFR paper 2004 Iran: Time for a New Approach by Brzezinski and Gates (DCI under GHWBush and SecDef under GWBush and BHObama)

Today announced China purchases typically half U.S. soy export

As Ukraine meets 4 million metric ton cap on wheat exports will undercutting Russians or U.S. take up slack (and fossils remember U.S. sold Russia wheat and it was the scandal)

Resolved: the very rich are not only not like you and I; they are often not visible to you and me, but their wishes are felt via facilitators and mechanics

Their world and we just live in it?

The Jeep Wrangler to be made in China--

The buzz was you don't have to be Jewish to love Levy's rye bread

I submit you don't have to be any particular characteristic to see if wage, materials, tax structure, environental controls are favorable to profit in location X, but not Y, then we'll see a repeat of the seventies crating of industry to ship to Japan, this time China

What was the role of Armand Hammer; is it an accident that his protege Gore is the global warming apocalypsist

Does None Dare confirm or underlay Donald Gibson, Battling Wall Street: The Kennedy Presidency, and is it a companion piece to Thy Will Be Done: The Conquest of the Amazon: Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil by Gerard Colby and Charlotte Dennett

Is it not therefore a solid fact that Kennedy's delinking loans from state policy was against the grain, that his withdrawing from the war an antiprofit heresy, his valiant search for detente an unforgiveable apostasy

As the extant scandal is blamed on an anti-Islamic video so the assassination of the 35th president was blamed on a Communist--again and again the Communist--with the Stalinesque mental twist, that he was insane

Even as deMohrenschildt and Robert Leon Yates and the inconvenient witness in the King assassination and so many more are subjected to drugs and shock and commitment

The All-Seeing Eye drones on
sending biometrics to the monolith
Soma these days gonna rise up smilin
just to queer its facial recognition






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[Don Jeffries]

David,

None Dare Call It Conspiracy was an important book. It was given to me by a very interesting right-wing pharmacist I once knew. It changed the way I looked at the world. Up until that point, I was a typical young leftist radical. The CFR and similar groups were unknown to me. After reading Gary Allen's book, I went away from what Alex Jones accurately calls "the false left-right paradigm."

That being said, The JBS did love that book (although I don't know if Allen was affiliated with them). We may even picture the likes of General Walker reading it.

Phil- I am starting to understand you. Maybe I will become another of your fans. Dick Gregory is still one of my favorites. Alex Jones had him on last year, and it was a great show. As I noted earlier, this ironclad leftist once sat on the board of Liberty Lobby, right wing publisher of The Spotlight. Gregory understands all too well the phony left-right/liberal-conservative "choices."

[Dawn Meredith]

I read None Dare when it first came out. A right wing friend lent it to me. I'd like to read it again with all that I know now. I was already being introduced to CFR and the like via other means. My memory is that it was a JBS type book. That the Commie conspiracy was the fear, but I may be remembering it all wrong.

I need to re-read it at some point.

Dawn