03-06-2024, 04:44 AM
This man just doesn't get it...
He is obviously the reason why Speer has been allowed to mush up the evidence on the Education Forum:
"Mr. Hoefling,
Since you are approaching this "discussion" as a "prosecution" of Mr. Speer, I must remind you that the burden of proof in an American court [no, this isn't a court, but I use the court as an example] is on the PROSECUTION, and not on the defense.
So can you PROVE that Mr. Speer actually used the word "liar" in reference to James Jenkins? To this point, I apparently have missed where you have posted that exact, direct quote. One can say that another person's story has changed over the years and still not call them a liar. Memories fade, people don't express themselves well, people also sometimes are simply mistaken at one point or another in their lives.
As an administrator of The Education Forum, I can't wait for you to direct Sandy Larson to suspend my posting priviliges or to ban me from the forum, simply for questioning your techniques when dealing with Mr. Speer. As of 6/2/2024, I am the last remaining administrator from the transfer of ownership of The Education Forum from John Simkin to the group of four new owners they selected in 2014. Of that group of four owners, it seems I am the "last man standing," unless James Gordon decides to return.
Greg Doudna and I often disagree on the Forum. But I agree with Greg that when you accuse one party of calling someone a liar, it is incumbent upon you, as the accuser, to present evidence that the person you are accusing did what you have accused them of doing...that of calling someone a liar. Unless someone actually uses the word "liar," then you haven't proved your point.
And it is NOT the responsibility of anyone, including the person you accused, to prove they didn't do what you claim they did.
If someone points to the upper back part of the head, at what specific point -- how many millimeters from what particular point of reference does the upper part of the head become NOT the top of the head? At what point on the skull does the "top of the head" begin and end? Yes, I'm asking for specificity in your response.
Otherwise, is the top HALF of the head still the "top of the head"? Or is it the top 25% of the head? Or only the top 2% of the head? If you cannot define your term with any degree of specificity, then perhaps Mr. Speer's interpretation of the term "top of the head" is slightly less specific than yours, which to this point seems quite subject to interpretation.
I eagerly await your attempts to have me suspended or even banned from the forum of which I appear to be the last currently active owner. This is gonna be a hoot.
When I'm suspended, maybe DVP can go by his former business and pick up a bucket [extra crispy, please, David!] and deliver it to me. I'm 25 miles west of Louisville, David...the same latitude as the first turn at Churchill Downs, and the same longitude as the end of pit road at Talladega Speedway. I'll supply the drinks as long as you drink decaf cola."
Knight is his best own condemner by his own words...
Is he a government agent?...
He is obviously the reason why Speer has been allowed to mush up the evidence on the Education Forum:
"Mr. Hoefling,
Since you are approaching this "discussion" as a "prosecution" of Mr. Speer, I must remind you that the burden of proof in an American court [no, this isn't a court, but I use the court as an example] is on the PROSECUTION, and not on the defense.
So can you PROVE that Mr. Speer actually used the word "liar" in reference to James Jenkins? To this point, I apparently have missed where you have posted that exact, direct quote. One can say that another person's story has changed over the years and still not call them a liar. Memories fade, people don't express themselves well, people also sometimes are simply mistaken at one point or another in their lives.
As an administrator of The Education Forum, I can't wait for you to direct Sandy Larson to suspend my posting priviliges or to ban me from the forum, simply for questioning your techniques when dealing with Mr. Speer. As of 6/2/2024, I am the last remaining administrator from the transfer of ownership of The Education Forum from John Simkin to the group of four new owners they selected in 2014. Of that group of four owners, it seems I am the "last man standing," unless James Gordon decides to return.
Greg Doudna and I often disagree on the Forum. But I agree with Greg that when you accuse one party of calling someone a liar, it is incumbent upon you, as the accuser, to present evidence that the person you are accusing did what you have accused them of doing...that of calling someone a liar. Unless someone actually uses the word "liar," then you haven't proved your point.
And it is NOT the responsibility of anyone, including the person you accused, to prove they didn't do what you claim they did.
If someone points to the upper back part of the head, at what specific point -- how many millimeters from what particular point of reference does the upper part of the head become NOT the top of the head? At what point on the skull does the "top of the head" begin and end? Yes, I'm asking for specificity in your response.
Otherwise, is the top HALF of the head still the "top of the head"? Or is it the top 25% of the head? Or only the top 2% of the head? If you cannot define your term with any degree of specificity, then perhaps Mr. Speer's interpretation of the term "top of the head" is slightly less specific than yours, which to this point seems quite subject to interpretation.
I eagerly await your attempts to have me suspended or even banned from the forum of which I appear to be the last currently active owner. This is gonna be a hoot.
When I'm suspended, maybe DVP can go by his former business and pick up a bucket [extra crispy, please, David!] and deliver it to me. I'm 25 miles west of Louisville, David...the same latitude as the first turn at Churchill Downs, and the same longitude as the end of pit road at Talladega Speedway. I'll supply the drinks as long as you drink decaf cola."
Knight is his best own condemner by his own words...
Is he a government agent?...