01-01-2011, 08:27 PM
I think that is what some folks are missing. Players like Ed Lansdale, Richard Helms, James Angleton ultimately "work for" higher powers.
And those "higher powers" would be folks like the Rockefellers (Nelson Rockefeller in particular), Allen Dulles, Texas oil barons such as Clint Murchison, Sr., John J. McCloy - basically the shadow government.
The Texas oil barons (Clint Murchison, Sr., H.L. Hunt, whoever their closest allies were) and the Rockefellers (who were friends with Texas oil) were simply telling the intelligence agencies to murder John Kennedy.
I have a biography of James Angleton and it shows him carrying the ashes of his mentor Allen Dulles at his funeral in 1969. Now that is CLOSE. All Texas oil and the Rockefellers had to do was go through Allen Dulles to manipulate the CIA - even long after Dulles was fired. LBJ always said "Power is where power goes."
Did Lyndon Johnson work FOR or work WITH the shadow government? Both - and they ALL wanted John Kennedy murdered.
I think Clint Murchison, Sr. and Nelson Rockefeller and Allen Dulles had a lot more power than Helms, Angleton and Lansdale. Those last 3 guys are the hired help; just like J. Edgar Hoover was the hired help to the power elite. John J. McCloy, a Rockefeller man, was up there with immense power - he was a key agent for folks like Clint Murchison, Sr. and Nelson Rockefeller.
And remember, ultra key witnesses like Madeleine Duncan Brown, Billie Sol Estes, Barr McClellan and E. Howard Hunt did not start speaking out until Lyndon Johnson had been DEAD a full 10 years in the 1980's and beyond. Judyth Vary Baker did not speak out until the late 1990's.
If they had spoken out Monday morning November 25th, 1963 we would have solved the 1963 Coup d'Etat right off the bat ... of course they might be DEAD, too.
And those "higher powers" would be folks like the Rockefellers (Nelson Rockefeller in particular), Allen Dulles, Texas oil barons such as Clint Murchison, Sr., John J. McCloy - basically the shadow government.
The Texas oil barons (Clint Murchison, Sr., H.L. Hunt, whoever their closest allies were) and the Rockefellers (who were friends with Texas oil) were simply telling the intelligence agencies to murder John Kennedy.
I have a biography of James Angleton and it shows him carrying the ashes of his mentor Allen Dulles at his funeral in 1969. Now that is CLOSE. All Texas oil and the Rockefellers had to do was go through Allen Dulles to manipulate the CIA - even long after Dulles was fired. LBJ always said "Power is where power goes."
Did Lyndon Johnson work FOR or work WITH the shadow government? Both - and they ALL wanted John Kennedy murdered.
I think Clint Murchison, Sr. and Nelson Rockefeller and Allen Dulles had a lot more power than Helms, Angleton and Lansdale. Those last 3 guys are the hired help; just like J. Edgar Hoover was the hired help to the power elite. John J. McCloy, a Rockefeller man, was up there with immense power - he was a key agent for folks like Clint Murchison, Sr. and Nelson Rockefeller.
And remember, ultra key witnesses like Madeleine Duncan Brown, Billie Sol Estes, Barr McClellan and E. Howard Hunt did not start speaking out until Lyndon Johnson had been DEAD a full 10 years in the 1980's and beyond. Judyth Vary Baker did not speak out until the late 1990's.
If they had spoken out Monday morning November 25th, 1963 we would have solved the 1963 Coup d'Etat right off the bat ... of course they might be DEAD, too.